@bkoehn

#Google when talking in court against #EpicGames "we are open"

Google when talking with #FLOSS devs: "not for you"

@v_d_richards If signed by the developer (reproducible) and the developer has submitted to the Google pressure, the app will work fine.

If signed by F-Droid, we think they will not work at all, not even our Client, so we will not be able to provide updates.

For those apps already on Play you will submit to Google's rules and use Play, right?

For those not on Play... good luck tracking the APK, if the developer bowed down.

@nathanael @GrapheneOS We should be allies in the Android ecosystem (specially during these days) but they choose to be frenemies for some reason.

Fun fact: We talked with more GOS users at FOSDEM than stock Android users.

@oldherl The little X will dismiss it, if annoying

@nathanael @GrapheneOS Custom Android distros are not affected because they care about the freedom of their users.

@simx72 Custom Android distros can and do choose to free their users from such shackles.

@v_d_richards No info on that, no info on anything actually.

@v_d_richards @Preuk https://keepandroidopen.org/ ?

@apicultor Everything we do is transparent and public, eg. https://floss.social/@fdroidorg/116086537617519438

@TTFKA_Tay0 To be fair, they are not alternatives, they use the same code, and are at the mercy of Google when it comes to releasing such code. Otherwise, once installed, Lineage and other Android distributions can give the freedom back to their users to install what they want.

@Alonely0 @tehstu @cy8aer Note that Obtainium, Aurora and other app stores will have the same issues on 99.9999% of devices if Google goes ahead. Regarding "secure", do read https://f-droid.org/docs/Inclusion_How-To/#reproducible-builds too.

@crazyeddie Is the "United States" section is not enough, we might need some better pointers.

@_RyekDarkener_ We'd like to know, what makes it elitist though? As we are always working on making it easier to use so it achieves mainstream usage.

@_RyekDarkener_ Being blocked on 99% of devices for four years until we win such a court case is not the best path

@_RyekDarkener_ It's not only about "your" phone, but of your friends and family too. Note that Google knows PR really well, people already relaxed and forgot about this, as media just repeated the Google texts verbatim.

@crazyeddie The top section has a "You, the consumer" text that you could mention to the private person, and one named "You, the state" that puts things into perspective for them as a representative of the people.

@PVTejas No one saw that flow, so until then, all their posts are PR media control.

@kallekn @murena@mastodon.social @gael Nothing, all will work fine past September 2026. That being said, Google releases Android code less often each year so issues will creep up...

@Alonely0 @cy8aer Older apps were added when reproducibility wasn't achievable. For this reason today only about 22% of apps that we host are signed by their developer. This number will increase with time as we push for reproducibility at inclusion time. Also, switching from one signer to another is an annoying process that users need to take manually, for security reasons.

The #FDroid website has a new banner on top to remind visitors that #Google did not change course and #Android will be locked-down in under 200 days.

If you care about the freedom to control your devices and care about the privacy of you data, please contact your representative and make your voice heard.

https://keepandroidopen.org/ (thanks @marcprux) has the resources to guide you.

We know users will rarely visit the site so the Client(s) will get a banner soon too.

Thank you for your support!