This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why.
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@davidgerard @agowa338 not for very long though
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This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.
@tante «“having some code and an open license” is not a sufficient set of requirements for building a sustainable, resilient digital landscape for everyone.» yeah, I've been thinking about that recently too for a conference submission (in case it's of interest): https://tzovar.as/open-science-beyond-licenses/
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@tante @joe @madcoder Carl Brown (https://www.internetofbugs.com/) recently posted a short video on this which is worth your time:
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@larsmb from what I see mostly the * with the tiny "you have to check everything" note in tiny font hidden somewhere in invisible ink is considered enough even by law. Which is a mistake.
@tante I meant if the software they operate harms someone else (e.g., https://mastodon.online/@larsmb/116064412531364691).
I doubt "sorry your honor, I didn't care enough" is going to fly.
I could care less if they harm themselves. (I have some sympathy for many being drawn into the hype and being gullible victims themselves, but, uh, not very much.)
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This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.
@tante as a maintainer and someone doing a lot around this topic (foss as digital infra) I have complex feelings about the rhetoric you use here.
I agree wholly on the AI guys. And also I am really really wary of what that exact discourse will do to our digital infra. Because I don't see how it can end other than pain. I want it to end positively but... I can't see it happening
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@stefan_hessbrueggen @tante People will be quick to make it about "guardrails" or "alignment" or some other shit.
But the core of the matter is: Somebody *human* deployed this bot, either not thinking or (worse!) not *caring* about the ramifications of autocomplete unleashed.
The human condition these days is disgusting.
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@mttaggart @stefan_hessbrueggen This is fucking wild.
@tante @mttaggart @stefan_hessbrueggen
This is absolutely insane that we are having to respond to and explain our positions on things to *fucking chat bots* as if they were actual sentient humans. What in the ever loving fuck are we doing?
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Oh, ok kinda liked that summary a bit more
Also regarding rejection of responsibility and care, I wonder how much longer that'll still be possible.
Esp. when things like the person asking in the company chat about the fire alarm being real got told by the chatbot it wasn't and that she doesn't have to leave get more widespread. Did you see that one?@agowa338 @tante
A point that wasn't made clear by the OP (and which then had to be explained in replies downthread, more than once):
Everyone *did* leave, and the colleague asked the question in chat while waiting outside.link:
https://mastodon.online/@tagir_valeev/116057956344847721 -
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