This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why.
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@tante Somewhat. Though I do believe that people could actually be held legally responsible for what the agents they operate do.
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@tante "but at least as secure as commercial offerings now slowing going down the drain."
Shouldn't it be "slowly going down"?
@demiguise thanks fixed
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This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.
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This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.
@tante the very manifestation of the book the writer cannot promote for legal reasons called “Careless people”- https://mastodon.social/users/dahukanna/statuses/115909518246104074
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@tante i am never sure if i actually like notifying authors about errors.
because these tiny little human errors assure that the author concentrated on getting a message out, not "a text".
it's what makes them the "true" blog posts.
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@tante i am never sure if i actually like notifying authors about errors.
because these tiny little human errors assure that the author concentrated on getting a message out, not "a text".
it's what makes them the "true" blog posts.
@peterfr I appreciate it!
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This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.
More truth...
'Decades of collective work proving that “open source” is not less but at least as secure as commercial offerings now slowly going down the drain. Because a bunch of men – and it is always all men – just don’t want to be responsible for their actions. Which is fine if you are 5. But after 18 it gets old really fucking fast.'
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This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.
@tante FYI, the podcaster you want to mention is “Lex Fridman”, not “Lex Friedman”, aka @lexfri, who is certainly not right-wing
Here’s a song about it, too: https://lexfriedman.com/friedman
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@tante
Someone called vibe coded software the "fast fashion of software development" and that is kinda a good summary to get the point across to people unfamiliar with the FOSS ecosystem.What do you think?
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@tante FYI, the podcaster you want to mention is “Lex Fridman”, not “Lex Friedman”, aka @lexfri, who is certainly not right-wing
Here’s a song about it, too: https://lexfriedman.com/friedman
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@davidgerard @agowa338 not for very long though
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This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.
@tante «“having some code and an open license” is not a sufficient set of requirements for building a sustainable, resilient digital landscape for everyone.» yeah, I've been thinking about that recently too for a conference submission (in case it's of interest): https://tzovar.as/open-science-beyond-licenses/
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@tante @joe @madcoder Carl Brown (https://www.internetofbugs.com/) recently posted a short video on this which is worth your time:
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@larsmb from what I see mostly the * with the tiny "you have to check everything" note in tiny font hidden somewhere in invisible ink is considered enough even by law. Which is a mistake.
@tante I meant if the software they operate harms someone else (e.g., https://mastodon.online/@larsmb/116064412531364691).
I doubt "sorry your honor, I didn't care enough" is going to fly.
I could care less if they harm themselves. (I have some sympathy for many being drawn into the hype and being gullible victims themselves, but, uh, not very much.)
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This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.
@tante as a maintainer and someone doing a lot around this topic (foss as digital infra) I have complex feelings about the rhetoric you use here.
I agree wholly on the AI guys. And also I am really really wary of what that exact discourse will do to our digital infra. Because I don't see how it can end other than pain. I want it to end positively but... I can't see it happening
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@stefan_hessbrueggen @tante People will be quick to make it about "guardrails" or "alignment" or some other shit.
But the core of the matter is: Somebody *human* deployed this bot, either not thinking or (worse!) not *caring* about the ramifications of autocomplete unleashed.
The human condition these days is disgusting.
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@mttaggart @stefan_hessbrueggen This is fucking wild.
@tante @mttaggart @stefan_hessbrueggen
This is absolutely insane that we are having to respond to and explain our positions on things to *fucking chat bots* as if they were actual sentient humans. What in the ever loving fuck are we doing?
