This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why.

Klaus Frank

@tante
Oh, ok kinda liked that summary a bit more

Also regarding rejection of responsibility and care, I wonder how much longer that'll still be possible.
Esp. when things like the person asking in the company chat about the fire alarm being real got told by the chatbot it wasn't and that she doesn't have to leave get more widespread. Did you see that one?

https://mastodon.online/@tagir_valeev/116057271527521893

rakoo

The sad thing is that "open-source" has always been that: a libertarian "do what you want I'm not responsible" ecosystem. Libre software at least tried to make it so that you must make it a collective thing, but still with very little needed coordination. Not surprising seeing where those 2, and computing in general comes from (white rich cishet men who never had any real issues in their life)

What we need is to uproot this foundation. Start from a collective mindset, build from communities where we all listen and take care of each other. Taken to the extreme open licenses are useless: it is better to have a closed-source system that your community controls (ie the community has full control over what the thing does, but outsider don't necessarily) than an open-source system that everyone must understand on their own, leading to in practice control only by those who build it.

B O

@tante very well said. His thirst for nazi-bar fame is apparent.

You didn’t even touch on the uselessness of the project: none of these incel-adjacent techbros need a (digital or not) assistant in their lives; they just want to feel important. Message “something” in their WhatsApp/telegram (not irc, jabber or matrix) instead of just opening their calendar app

Falk

@tante "handing out running chainsaws to kids" that's exactly their way of responsibility.

peterfr

@tante

fyi - typo/german in “on the other faschist social network”. should be “fascist”

brainwashed by lentils

@Nfoonf @tante
the bots could rent some humans to go to the dev meeting
https://rentahuman.ai/

GunChleoc

@piyuv @tante Since they can't have a sexy female secretary doing these things for them, an AI will have to do.

Lars Marowsky-Brée 😷

@tante Somewhat. Though I do believe that people could actually be held legally responsible for what the agents they operate do.

tante

@larsmb from what I see mostly the * with the tiny "you have to check everything" note in tiny font hidden somewhere in invisible ink is considered enough even by law. Which is a mistake.

tante

@demiguise thanks fixed

Chris Pitts

@tante @algernon

Dawn Ahukanna

@tante the very manifestation of the book the writer cannot promote for legal reasons called “Careless people”- https://mastodon.social/users/dahukanna/statuses/115909518246104074

#techConsequencesInRealWorld

peterfr

@tante i am never sure if i actually like notifying authors about errors.

because these tiny little human errors assure that the author concentrated on getting a message out, not "a text".

it's what makes them the "true" blog posts.

tante

@peterfr I appreciate it!

Kyle Memoir 🍉🐧

@tante @pluralistic

More truth...

'Decades of collective work proving that “open source” is not less but at least as secure as commercial offerings now slowly going down the drain. Because a bunch of men – and it is always all men – just don’t want to be responsible for their actions. Which is fine if you are 5. But after 18 it gets old really fucking fast.'

Eric Eggert

@tante FYI, the podcaster you want to mention is “Lex Fridman”, not “Lex Friedman”, aka @lexfri, who is certainly not right-wing

Here’s a song about it, too: https://lexfriedman.com/friedman

David Gerard

@agowa338 @tante fast fashion usually succeeds in covering your arse, though

tante

@yatil @lexfri I fixed the name, thanks for the hint.

My characterization of his Oeuvre will stay though. He gives so much space to right wing talking points that he's indistinguishable from a right wing spokesperson.

If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck ...

tante

@davidgerard @agowa338 not for very long though

David Gerard

@bens @tante @huwr bluntly, he needs to hang around less techfash then and show more awareness of his surroundings. nothing tante said is the least bit unfair.