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  3. This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why.

This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why.

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  • J James Widman

    @tante https://mastodon.social/@JamesWidman/116032953161658413

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    James Widman
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    #18

    @tante but yeah, the fact the people aren't going to be able to trust FLOSS for the foreseeable future is... unimaginably bad.

    it's like if scam health-food influencers took control of the CDC.

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    • tanteT tante

      This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.

      https://tante.cc/2026/02/14/diffusion-of-responsibility/

      Ben ScheirmanB This user is from outside of this forum
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      Ben Scheirman
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      #19

      @tante @huwr there are a lot of good points and criticisms here, but Peter is not the “tech bro wannabe Elon” you say he is. He’s actually a caring thoughtful human who will probably be really hurt by these words.

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      • tanteT tante

        @mttaggart @stefan_hessbrueggen thank you so much!

        Michael SimonsR This user is from outside of this forum
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        #20

        @tante @mttaggart @stefan_hessbrueggen here’s the blog from Scott https://theshamblog.com/an-ai-agent-published-a-hit-piece-on-me/ mind blowing.

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        • Michael SimonsR Michael Simons

          @tante @mttaggart @stefan_hessbrueggen here’s the blog from Scott https://theshamblog.com/an-ai-agent-published-a-hit-piece-on-me/ mind blowing.

          Christian GudrianC This user is from outside of this forum
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          Christian Gudrian
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          #21

          @rotnroll666 The Kessler syndrome of the Internet.

          @tante @mttaggart

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          • tanteT tante

            This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.

            https://tante.cc/2026/02/14/diffusion-of-responsibility/

            Demiguise 🇮🇱D This user is from outside of this forum
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            Demiguise 🇮🇱
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            #22

            @tante "but at least as secure as commercial offerings now slowing going down the drain."

            Shouldn't it be "slowly going down"?

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            • tanteT tante

              This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.

              https://tante.cc/2026/02/14/diffusion-of-responsibility/

              Klaus FrankA This user is from outside of this forum
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              Klaus Frank
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              #23

              @tante
              Someone called vibe coded software the "fast fashion of software development" and that is kinda a good summary to get the point across to people unfamiliar with the FOSS ecosystem.

              What do you think?

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              • Klaus FrankA Klaus Frank

                @tante
                Someone called vibe coded software the "fast fashion of software development" and that is kinda a good summary to get the point across to people unfamiliar with the FOSS ecosystem.

                What do you think?

                tanteT This user is from outside of this forum
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                tante
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                #24

                @agowa338 that might actually have been me 😉
                https://tante.cc/2026/01/15/software-as-fast-fashion/

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                • J James Widman

                  @tante https://mastodon.social/@JamesWidman/116032953161658413

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                  Dźwiedziu
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                  @JamesWidman
                  We need to read Dune's works about the Butlerian Jihad.

                  @tante

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                  • tanteT tante

                    @agowa338 that might actually have been me 😉
                    https://tante.cc/2026/01/15/software-as-fast-fashion/

                    Klaus FrankA This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @tante
                    Oh, ok kinda liked that summary a bit more 🙂

                    Also regarding rejection of responsibility and care, I wonder how much longer that'll still be possible.
                    Esp. when things like the person asking in the company chat about the fire alarm being real got told by the chatbot it wasn't and that she doesn't have to leave get more widespread. Did you see that one?

                    https://mastodon.online/@tagir_valeev/116057271527521893

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                    • tanteT tante

                      This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.

                      https://tante.cc/2026/02/14/diffusion-of-responsibility/

                      rakooR This user is from outside of this forum
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                      rakoo
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                      The sad thing is that "open-source" has always been that: a libertarian "do what you want I'm not responsible" ecosystem. Libre software at least tried to make it so that you must make it a collective thing, but still with very little needed coordination. Not surprising seeing where those 2, and computing in general comes from (white rich cishet men who never had any real issues in their life)

                      What we need is to uproot this foundation. Start from a collective mindset, build from communities where we all listen and take care of each other. Taken to the extreme open licenses are useless: it is better to have a closed-source system that your community controls (ie the community has full control over what the thing does, but outsider don't necessarily) than an open-source system that everyone must understand on their own, leading to in practice control only by those who build it.
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                      • tanteT tante

                        This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.

                        https://tante.cc/2026/02/14/diffusion-of-responsibility/

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                        B O
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                        @tante very well said. His thirst for nazi-bar fame is apparent.

                        You didn’t even touch on the uselessness of the project: none of these incel-adjacent techbros need a (digital or not) assistant in their lives; they just want to feel important. Message “something” in their WhatsApp/telegram (not irc, jabber or matrix) instead of just opening their calendar app

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                        • tanteT tante

                          This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.

                          https://tante.cc/2026/02/14/diffusion-of-responsibility/

                          FalkD This user is from outside of this forum
                          FalkD This user is from outside of this forum
                          Falk
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                          @tante "handing out running chainsaws to kids" that's exactly their way of responsibility.

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                          • tanteT tante

                            This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.

                            https://tante.cc/2026/02/14/diffusion-of-responsibility/

                            peterfrP This user is from outside of this forum
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                            peterfr
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                            @tante 🙏

                            fyi - typo/german in “on the other faschist social network”. should be “fascist”

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                            • NfoonfN Nfoonf

                              @tante i hope they make a dev meeting soon

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                              brainwashed by lentils
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                              @Nfoonf @tante
                              the bots could rent some humans to go to the dev meeting
                              https://rentahuman.ai/

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                                @tante very well said. His thirst for nazi-bar fame is apparent.

                                You didn’t even touch on the uselessness of the project: none of these incel-adjacent techbros need a (digital or not) assistant in their lives; they just want to feel important. Message “something” in their WhatsApp/telegram (not irc, jabber or matrix) instead of just opening their calendar app

                                GunChleocG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                GunChleoc
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                                @piyuv @tante Since they can't have a sexy female secretary doing these things for them, an AI will have to do.

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                                • tanteT tante

                                  This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.

                                  https://tante.cc/2026/02/14/diffusion-of-responsibility/

                                  Lars Marowsky-Brée 😷L This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  Lars Marowsky-Brée 😷
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                                  @tante Somewhat. Though I do believe that people could actually be held legally responsible for what the agents they operate do.

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                                  • Lars Marowsky-Brée 😷L Lars Marowsky-Brée 😷

                                    @tante Somewhat. Though I do believe that people could actually be held legally responsible for what the agents they operate do.

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                                    tante
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                                    @larsmb from what I see mostly the * with the tiny "you have to check everything" note in tiny font hidden somewhere in invisible ink is considered enough even by law. Which is a mistake.

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                                    • Demiguise 🇮🇱D Demiguise 🇮🇱

                                      @tante "but at least as secure as commercial offerings now slowing going down the drain."

                                      Shouldn't it be "slowly going down"?

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                                      tante
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                                      @demiguise thanks fixed

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                                      • tanteT tante

                                        This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.

                                        https://tante.cc/2026/02/14/diffusion-of-responsibility/

                                        Chris PittsT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        Chris Pitts
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                                        @tante @algernon 🎯

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                                        • tanteT tante

                                          This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.

                                          https://tante.cc/2026/02/14/diffusion-of-responsibility/

                                          Dawn AhukannaD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          Dawn Ahukanna
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                                          @tante the very manifestation of the book the writer cannot promote for legal reasons called “Careless people”- https://mastodon.social/users/dahukanna/statuses/115909518246104074

                                          #techConsequencesInRealWorld

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