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This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why.

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  • tanteT tante

    This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.

    https://tante.cc/2026/02/14/diffusion-of-responsibility/

    Klaus FrankA This user is from outside of this forum
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    @tante
    Someone called vibe coded software the "fast fashion of software development" and that is kinda a good summary to get the point across to people unfamiliar with the FOSS ecosystem.

    What do you think?

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    • Klaus FrankA Klaus Frank

      @tante
      Someone called vibe coded software the "fast fashion of software development" and that is kinda a good summary to get the point across to people unfamiliar with the FOSS ecosystem.

      What do you think?

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      @agowa338 that might actually have been me 😉
      https://tante.cc/2026/01/15/software-as-fast-fashion/

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        @tante https://mastodon.social/@JamesWidman/116032953161658413

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        @JamesWidman
        We need to read Dune's works about the Butlerian Jihad.

        @tante

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        • tanteT tante

          @agowa338 that might actually have been me 😉
          https://tante.cc/2026/01/15/software-as-fast-fashion/

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          @tante
          Oh, ok kinda liked that summary a bit more 🙂

          Also regarding rejection of responsibility and care, I wonder how much longer that'll still be possible.
          Esp. when things like the person asking in the company chat about the fire alarm being real got told by the chatbot it wasn't and that she doesn't have to leave get more widespread. Did you see that one?

          https://mastodon.online/@tagir_valeev/116057271527521893

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          • tanteT tante

            This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.

            https://tante.cc/2026/02/14/diffusion-of-responsibility/

            rakooR This user is from outside of this forum
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            The sad thing is that "open-source" has always been that: a libertarian "do what you want I'm not responsible" ecosystem. Libre software at least tried to make it so that you must make it a collective thing, but still with very little needed coordination. Not surprising seeing where those 2, and computing in general comes from (white rich cishet men who never had any real issues in their life)

            What we need is to uproot this foundation. Start from a collective mindset, build from communities where we all listen and take care of each other. Taken to the extreme open licenses are useless: it is better to have a closed-source system that your community controls (ie the community has full control over what the thing does, but outsider don't necessarily) than an open-source system that everyone must understand on their own, leading to in practice control only by those who build it.
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            • tanteT tante

              This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.

              https://tante.cc/2026/02/14/diffusion-of-responsibility/

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              B O
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              @tante very well said. His thirst for nazi-bar fame is apparent.

              You didn’t even touch on the uselessness of the project: none of these incel-adjacent techbros need a (digital or not) assistant in their lives; they just want to feel important. Message “something” in their WhatsApp/telegram (not irc, jabber or matrix) instead of just opening their calendar app

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              • tanteT tante

                This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.

                https://tante.cc/2026/02/14/diffusion-of-responsibility/

                FalkD This user is from outside of this forum
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                @tante "handing out running chainsaws to kids" that's exactly their way of responsibility.

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                • tanteT tante

                  This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.

                  https://tante.cc/2026/02/14/diffusion-of-responsibility/

                  peterfrP This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @tante 🙏

                  fyi - typo/german in “on the other faschist social network”. should be “fascist”

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                  • NfoonfN Nfoonf

                    @tante i hope they make a dev meeting soon

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                    @Nfoonf @tante
                    the bots could rent some humans to go to the dev meeting
                    https://rentahuman.ai/

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                    • P B O

                      @tante very well said. His thirst for nazi-bar fame is apparent.

                      You didn’t even touch on the uselessness of the project: none of these incel-adjacent techbros need a (digital or not) assistant in their lives; they just want to feel important. Message “something” in their WhatsApp/telegram (not irc, jabber or matrix) instead of just opening their calendar app

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                      @piyuv @tante Since they can't have a sexy female secretary doing these things for them, an AI will have to do.

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                      • tanteT tante

                        This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.

                        https://tante.cc/2026/02/14/diffusion-of-responsibility/

                        Lars Marowsky-Brée 😷L This user is from outside of this forum
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                        @tante Somewhat. Though I do believe that people could actually be held legally responsible for what the agents they operate do.

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                        • Lars Marowsky-Brée 😷L Lars Marowsky-Brée 😷

                          @tante Somewhat. Though I do believe that people could actually be held legally responsible for what the agents they operate do.

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                          @larsmb from what I see mostly the * with the tiny "you have to check everything" note in tiny font hidden somewhere in invisible ink is considered enough even by law. Which is a mistake.

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                          • Demiguise 🇮🇱D Demiguise 🇮🇱

                            @tante "but at least as secure as commercial offerings now slowing going down the drain."

                            Shouldn't it be "slowly going down"?

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                            @demiguise thanks fixed

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                            • tanteT tante

                              This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.

                              https://tante.cc/2026/02/14/diffusion-of-responsibility/

                              Chris PittsT This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @tante @algernon 🎯

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                              • tanteT tante

                                This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.

                                https://tante.cc/2026/02/14/diffusion-of-responsibility/

                                Dawn AhukannaD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                @tante the very manifestation of the book the writer cannot promote for legal reasons called “Careless people”- https://mastodon.social/users/dahukanna/statuses/115909518246104074

                                #techConsequencesInRealWorld

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                                • peterfrP peterfr

                                  @tante 🙏

                                  fyi - typo/german in “on the other faschist social network”. should be “fascist”

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                                  @tante i am never sure if i actually like notifying authors about errors.

                                  because these tiny little human errors assure that the author concentrated on getting a message out, not "a text".

                                  it's what makes them the "true" blog posts.

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                                  • peterfrP peterfr

                                    @tante i am never sure if i actually like notifying authors about errors.

                                    because these tiny little human errors assure that the author concentrated on getting a message out, not "a text".

                                    it's what makes them the "true" blog posts.

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                                    @peterfr I appreciate it!

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                                    • tanteT tante

                                      This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.

                                      https://tante.cc/2026/02/14/diffusion-of-responsibility/

                                      Kyle Memoir 🍉🐧F This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      @tante @pluralistic

                                      More truth...

                                      'Decades of collective work proving that “open source” is not less but at least as secure as commercial offerings now slowly going down the drain. Because a bunch of men – and it is always all men – just don’t want to be responsible for their actions. Which is fine if you are 5. But after 18 it gets old really fucking fast.'

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                                      • tanteT tante

                                        This whole "OpenClaw" thing has made me very angry and I wrote a bit about the why. It's not that "it's AI": It is the way that kind of project invalidates decades of work and care in free software. "AI" software isn't just careless, it is actively rejecting responsibility and care.

                                        https://tante.cc/2026/02/14/diffusion-of-responsibility/

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                                        @tante FYI, the podcaster you want to mention is “Lex Fridman”, not “Lex Friedman”, aka @lexfri, who is certainly not right-wing 🙂

                                        Here’s a song about it, too: https://lexfriedman.com/friedman

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                                        • Klaus FrankA Klaus Frank

                                          @tante
                                          Someone called vibe coded software the "fast fashion of software development" and that is kinda a good summary to get the point across to people unfamiliar with the FOSS ecosystem.

                                          What do you think?

                                          David GerardD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @agowa338 @tante fast fashion usually succeeds in covering your arse, though

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