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  • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

    Actions speak louder than words.

    I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

    Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

    A frontal attack to our #privacy.

    Stupid, no?

    @EUCommission

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    Dr. BauBauS
    wrote last edited by
    #30

    @jdelacueva @EUCommission File a complain, and use as much sarcasm as possible.

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    • Mira :neocat_flag_nb:M Mira :neocat_flag_nb:

      @jdelacueva@mastodon.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu is Google Play really the only way to use two-factor authentication there? not even a FIDO token or some other alternative?

      GuacamOlé 🥑G This user is from outside of this forum
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      GuacamOlé 🥑
      wrote last edited by
      #31

      @mira @EUCommission @jdelacueva i can even use 2FA in Microsoft Teams without Google vor MS apps.

      Its just lazyness i guess

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      • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

        Actions speak louder than words.

        I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

        Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

        A frontal attack to our #privacy.

        Stupid, no?

        @EUCommission

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        Z This user is from outside of this forum
        zsapi
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        #32

        @EUCommission
        Hey there EU commission. As a Hungarian citizen I must ask, could we not do this? This is a short sighted and arbitrary limitation that does not add to security but strengthens our dependence on the US.

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        • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

          Actions speak louder than words.

          I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

          Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

          A frontal attack to our #privacy.

          Stupid, no?

          @EUCommission

          AndréA This user is from outside of this forum
          AndréA This user is from outside of this forum
          André
          wrote last edited by
          #33

          @jdelacueva the @EUCommission needs to mandate opening up mobile Phone manufacturers to third party integrity verification Services (and fund initial european companies to bootstrap them), so security related apps don't need to rely on Google/Apple integrity services

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          • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

            Actions speak louder than words.

            I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

            Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

            A frontal attack to our #privacy.

            Stupid, no?

            @EUCommission

            antoniovrA This user is from outside of this forum
            antoniovrA This user is from outside of this forum
            antoniovr
            wrote last edited by
            #34

            @jdelacueva @EUCommission
            I will try out. So far i can still log in with user password (perhaps it depends on the European portal)

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            • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

              Actions speak louder than words.

              I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

              Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

              A frontal attack to our #privacy.

              Stupid, no?

              @EUCommission

              Lutin DiscretL This user is from outside of this forum
              Lutin DiscretL This user is from outside of this forum
              Lutin Discret
              wrote last edited by
              #35

              @jdelacueva mandatory for doing what?

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              • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                Actions speak louder than words.

                I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                Stupid, no?

                @EUCommission

                Tanguy FardetT This user is from outside of this forum
                Tanguy FardetT This user is from outside of this forum
                Tanguy Fardet
                wrote last edited by
                #36

                @jdelacueva yeah... it's not great. I had to buy a YubiKey to get 2FA without Google when accessing @EUCommission portals

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                • antoniovrA antoniovr

                  @jdelacueva @EUCommission
                  I will try out. So far i can still log in with user password (perhaps it depends on the European portal)

                  antoniovrA This user is from outside of this forum
                  antoniovrA This user is from outside of this forum
                  antoniovr
                  wrote last edited by
                  #37

                  @jdelacueva @EUCommission i thought you could set up a totp but i see the only way is to install that app

                  So far i will keep on using just user and password.

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                  • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                    Actions speak louder than words.

                    I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                    Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                    A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                    Stupid, no?

                    @EUCommission

                    Joan CiberSheep (ell/això)C This user is from outside of this forum
                    Joan CiberSheep (ell/això)C This user is from outside of this forum
                    Joan CiberSheep (ell/això)
                    wrote last edited by
                    #38

                    @EUCommission
                    well, we insist in doing apps only for two platforms. There are other OS, really open like Ubuntu Touch that are not under a company.
                    If we don't start controlling the OS, we will have to follow big tech wishes.

                    @jdelacueva

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                    • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                      Actions speak louder than words.

                      I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                      Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                      A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                      Stupid, no?

                      @EUCommission

                      Leonardo FontenelleL This user is from outside of this forum
                      Leonardo FontenelleL This user is from outside of this forum
                      Leonardo Fontenelle
                      wrote last edited by
                      #39

                      @jdelacueva @EUCommission digital sovereignty

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                      • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                        Actions speak louder than words.

                        I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                        Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                        A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                        Stupid, no?

                        @EUCommission

                        CharlesC This user is from outside of this forum
                        CharlesC This user is from outside of this forum
                        Charles
                        wrote last edited by
                        #40

                        @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                        I hope BRICs develop better solutions for their citizens.

                        The EU is a sock puppet of the US empire.

                        (Look at what they do, not what they say).

                        https://mastodon.social/@DrALJONES/116105093976196966

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                        • Tanguy FardetT Tanguy Fardet

                          @jdelacueva yeah... it's not great. I had to buy a YubiKey to get 2FA without Google when accessing @EUCommission portals

                          Henrik PauliP This user is from outside of this forum
                          Henrik PauliP This user is from outside of this forum
                          Henrik Pauli
                          wrote last edited by
                          #41

                          @tfardet @jdelacueva @EUCommission wow I'm absolutely baffled why a bog standard TOTP isn't allowed while some silly four digit PIN is... https://trusted-digital-identity.europa.eu/creating-managing-and-using-your-eu-login-account/what-second-factor-can-i-configure-my-account_en

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                          • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                            Actions speak louder than words.

                            I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                            Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                            A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                            Stupid, no?

                            @EUCommission

                            Backhand Topspin 🟨J This user is from outside of this forum
                            Backhand Topspin 🟨J This user is from outside of this forum
                            Backhand Topspin 🟨
                            wrote last edited by
                            #42

                            @jdelacueva Shame on you @EUCommission Europe should be internet-sovereign and stop depending exclusively on foreign US big tech shady corporations.

                            European citizens that pay taxes in Europe and try to use Europe based alternatives to Apple or Android shouldn't be treated like this. It is a disgrace. Things like this have to change. We need European software running on an European OS, for Europe's sake!

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                            • GreatLakeTroutG GreatLakeTrout

                              @IvanSanchez @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                              Wait I thought the EU was trying to separate itself from US tech, that is what all their politicians are saying……….oh wait I see My error now.

                              🍐 Perivi Yohanesburgo 🍐 :fedora:F This user is from outside of this forum
                              🍐 Perivi Yohanesburgo 🍐 :fedora:F This user is from outside of this forum
                              🍐 Perivi Yohanesburgo 🍐 :fedora:
                              wrote last edited by
                              #43

                              @greatlaketrout @IvanSanchez @jdelacueva @EUCommission The European Digital Identity Wallet app for Android will require Play Integrity as well.

                              https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/eudi-app-android-wallet-ui/issues/287

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                              • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                Actions speak louder than words.

                                I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                Stupid, no?

                                @EUCommission

                                NazoN This user is from outside of this forum
                                NazoN This user is from outside of this forum
                                Nazo
                                wrote last edited by
                                #44

                                @jdelacueva @EUCommission Does this actually require explicitly Google's own authenticator?

                                There are a number of two-factor authenticators that should be completely compatible. (My preferred option being Aegis, but there are others.)

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                                • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                  Actions speak louder than words.

                                  I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                  Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                  A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                  Stupid, no?

                                  @EUCommission

                                  Rue MohrR This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Rue MohrR This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Rue Mohr
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #45

                                  @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                                  software hacking gonna be a major thing!!! and I dont think its all going to be client side!

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                                  • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                    Actions speak louder than words.

                                    I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                    Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                    A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                    Stupid, no?

                                    @EUCommission

                                    SebasFCS This user is from outside of this forum
                                    SebasFCS This user is from outside of this forum
                                    SebasFC
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #46

                                    @jdelacueva @EUCommission hi @pallenberg könntest du dir das Mal angucken?

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                                    • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                      Actions speak louder than words.

                                      I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                      Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                      A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                      Stupid, no?

                                      @EUCommission

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                                      C This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Steffen Eichel
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #47

                                      @jdelacueva @EUCommission At least one EU Agency uses Microsoft services (even for user management and login/security issues) and you have to use either SMS or MS for 2FA, no open standards.

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                                      • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                        Actions speak louder than words.

                                        I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                        Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                        A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                        Stupid, no?

                                        @EUCommission

                                        pinoP This user is from outside of this forum
                                        pinoP This user is from outside of this forum
                                        pino
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #48

                                        @jdelacueva @EUCommission What else did you expect from them?

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                                        • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                          Actions speak louder than words.

                                          I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                          Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                          A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                          Stupid, no?

                                          @EUCommission

                                          Fish Id WardrobeF This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Fish Id WardrobeF This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Fish Id Wardrobe
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #49

                                          @jdelacueva @EUCommission if the 2FA requires one particular app to use, that's suspicious, too. there are plenty of apps that will work with 2FA.

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