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is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice?

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  • Graham Sutherland / PolynomialG Graham Sutherland / Polynomial

    is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a Β£10 mouse lasts decades and a Β£200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.

    I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.

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    @gsuberland

    I generally go for the T705 or the T720 and they seem fairly reliable, IMHO πŸ€”πŸ€·β€β™‚οΈ

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    • Graham Sutherland / PolynomialG Graham Sutherland / Polynomial

      is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a Β£10 mouse lasts decades and a Β£200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.

      I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.

      Venya (he/him/dude) πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦V This user is from outside of this forum
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      @gsuberland

      I would like this. But also a trackball version. πŸ˜ƒ

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      • Graham Sutherland / PolynomialG Graham Sutherland / Polynomial

        is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a Β£10 mouse lasts decades and a Β£200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.

        I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.

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        @gsuberland I wanted the MX Master, but could not afford it, so I went for the M705, and so far I can't complaint at all.
        Hasn't shown any signs of aging (I use it for work and home, since I work from home and just use the same mouse).

        But may not be what you are looking for.

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        • Being Left Behind EnjoyerT Being Left Behind Enjoyer

          @gsuberland some of the gamer mice are pretty well-built fwiw, I have used endgame gear for work for years and they’re consistently very good

          https://www.endgamegear.com/en-us/gaming-mice/xm2-8k-v2?attribute%5Bcolor%5D=White

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          @gsuberland I tried a lot of the β€œprofessional” stuff (high-end Logitech, ergonomic mice, roller mouse, etc) but I come back to these

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          • Graham Sutherland / PolynomialG Graham Sutherland / Polynomial

            is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a Β£10 mouse lasts decades and a Β£200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.

            I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.

            Neil E. HodgesT This user is from outside of this forum
            Neil E. HodgesT This user is from outside of this forum
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            @gsuberland Have you considered getting a new in box mouse from an older generation? Things used to be built better, after all. πŸ˜•
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            • Graham Sutherland / PolynomialG Graham Sutherland / Polynomial

              is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a Β£10 mouse lasts decades and a Β£200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.

              I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.

              Andrew ZonenbergA This user is from outside of this forum
              Andrew ZonenbergA This user is from outside of this forum
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              @gsuberland My G502 Hero mice have been going for quite a long time now. Probably logitech's last generation of wired mouse, has stupid RGB out of the box but there's utilities to turn it off (and update the eeprom so it doesn't come back even if you don't keep the software installed)

              Big selling point for me was much better tracking on my tricky surfaces (esd mats, glossy white table tops, etc) than a lot of the cheap ones.

              I don't remember how old they are but i think I've replaced one, once, in the past few years across a fleet of three or four. And it was due to cable damage not the mouse failing.

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              • Graham Sutherland / PolynomialG Graham Sutherland / Polynomial

                please don't reply with things that only meet some of my requirements. "it doesn't exist" is an entirely reasonable answer, and a preferred one over half-solutions.

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                @gsuberland i'm still gawping at "i'm not interested in trackballs"

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                • Andrew ZonenbergA Andrew Zonenberg

                  @gsuberland My G502 Hero mice have been going for quite a long time now. Probably logitech's last generation of wired mouse, has stupid RGB out of the box but there's utilities to turn it off (and update the eeprom so it doesn't come back even if you don't keep the software installed)

                  Big selling point for me was much better tracking on my tricky surfaces (esd mats, glossy white table tops, etc) than a lot of the cheap ones.

                  I don't remember how old they are but i think I've replaced one, once, in the past few years across a fleet of three or four. And it was due to cable damage not the mouse failing.

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                  @gsuberland i go out of my way to avoid wireless mice and from what I've heard their quality has gone down hill so... good luck?

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                  • Graham Sutherland / PolynomialG Graham Sutherland / Polynomial

                    is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a Β£10 mouse lasts decades and a Β£200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.

                    I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.

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                    @gsuberland still miss when Zowie wasn’t owned by Benq.

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                    • Graham Sutherland / PolynomialG Graham Sutherland / Polynomial

                      is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a Β£10 mouse lasts decades and a Β£200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.

                      I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.

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                      @gsuberland
                      there is zowie, a benq sub-brand

                      they make pro-esport mice that has:
                      - no software or drivers
                      - settings changed by holding down buttons while powering it up
                      - no RGB

                      after *years* of heavy use, one of the button switches failed

                      (I have not looked at them for years now, so idk if anything has changed or not)

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                      • Venya (he/him/dude) πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦V Venya (he/him/dude) πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦

                        @gsuberland

                        I would like this. But also a trackball version. πŸ˜ƒ

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                        @venya @gsuberland

                        Venya, you should look at Elecom. I am ridiculously happy with their trackballs.

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                        • Venya (he/him/dude) πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦V Venya (he/him/dude) πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦

                          @gsuberland

                          I would like this. But also a trackball version. πŸ˜ƒ

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                          @venya @gsuberland Regarding trackball... have you tried Elecom?

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                          • Graham Sutherland / PolynomialG Graham Sutherland / Polynomial

                            please don't reply with things that only meet some of my requirements. "it doesn't exist" is an entirely reasonable answer, and a preferred one over half-solutions.

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                            I feel like there's a market gap for someone to come in and make premium high-reliability mice designed for professionals. well documented HID map for the extra buttons, lightweight and reliable (but optional) software for customising buttons and gestures, a good cross-platform SDK for any fancy features like haptic feedback or adjustable scroll wheel resistance.

                            the professional keyboard market is completely saturated already, but mice have been largely overlooked.

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                            • gaytabaseD gaytabase

                              @gsuberland i'm still gawping at "i'm not interested in trackballs"

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                              @dysfun I have tried to like them and I just don't.

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                              • Graham Sutherland / PolynomialG Graham Sutherland / Polynomial

                                @dysfun I have tried to like them and I just don't.

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                                @gsuberland i love them. don't know what i'm going to do when mine breaks any further. can't buy another logitech since they went AI

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                                • Graham Sutherland / PolynomialG Graham Sutherland / Polynomial

                                  is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a Β£10 mouse lasts decades and a Β£200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.

                                  I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.

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                                  @gsuberland my Speedlink LEDOS mouse has lasted over 10 years so far, ,and i spent 30€ on it.

                                  yeah ik red LEDs and "gamer" branding, and it's wired, but doesn't need any software, and it's still comfortable despite me using it with my left hand (which i couldn't say about the MX Master 2S, i literally couldn't use it if i wanted to). the DPI is adjustable, but the highest setting isn't ridiculous and i usually leave it on that by default, whether it's playing Fallout 4 or using KiCAD.

                                  I have never used a mousepad, and i used it on all kinds of surfaces. It has never failed me and I will probably wear through the entire paint and material before having to buy a replacement

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                                  • Graham Sutherland / PolynomialG Graham Sutherland / Polynomial

                                    is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a Β£10 mouse lasts decades and a Β£200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.

                                    I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.

                                    you're all idiotsI This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @gsuberland what's wrong with the M585?

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                                    • Graham Sutherland / PolynomialG Graham Sutherland / Polynomial

                                      is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a Β£10 mouse lasts decades and a Β£200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.

                                      I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.

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                                      @gsuberland MX2 Anywhere here, Amazon version because prime-day made it actually reasonably priced. currently 7 years old of use most weeks. wife's MX2 (AmZ version for same reasons) lasted over 6 years of office/gaming use until minecraft ended it this year somehow. managed to replace with same thing.

                                      admission - I don't use their software at all (not sure about wife)

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                                      • Graham Sutherland / PolynomialG Graham Sutherland / Polynomial

                                        is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a Β£10 mouse lasts decades and a Β£200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.

                                        I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.

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                                        @gsuberland I've been using the same Razer Deathadder Essential for longer than I can remember. The software sucks as usual, but the mouse works without it. Two side buttons, no frills.

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                                        • Andrew ZonenbergA Andrew Zonenberg

                                          @gsuberland i go out of my way to avoid wireless mice and from what I've heard their quality has gone down hill so... good luck?

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                                          @azonenberg @gsuberland +1 for avoiding hamsters (aka. mouse without a tail...)
                                          +1 for a Zowie: no frills, no software needed

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