is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice?
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I would like this. But also a trackball version.

Venya, you should look at Elecom. I am ridiculously happy with their trackballs.
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I would like this. But also a trackball version.

@venya @gsuberland Regarding trackball... have you tried Elecom?
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please don't reply with things that only meet some of my requirements. "it doesn't exist" is an entirely reasonable answer, and a preferred one over half-solutions.
I feel like there's a market gap for someone to come in and make premium high-reliability mice designed for professionals. well documented HID map for the extra buttons, lightweight and reliable (but optional) software for customising buttons and gestures, a good cross-platform SDK for any fancy features like haptic feedback or adjustable scroll wheel resistance.
the professional keyboard market is completely saturated already, but mice have been largely overlooked.
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@gsuberland i'm still gawping at "i'm not interested in trackballs"
@dysfun I have tried to like them and I just don't.
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@dysfun I have tried to like them and I just don't.
@gsuberland i love them. don't know what i'm going to do when mine breaks any further. can't buy another logitech since they went AI
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is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a Β£10 mouse lasts decades and a Β£200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.
I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.
@gsuberland my Speedlink LEDOS mouse has lasted over 10 years so far, ,and i spent 30β¬ on it.
yeah ik red LEDs and "gamer" branding, and it's wired, but doesn't need any software, and it's still comfortable despite me using it with my left hand (which i couldn't say about the MX Master 2S, i literally couldn't use it if i wanted to). the DPI is adjustable, but the highest setting isn't ridiculous and i usually leave it on that by default, whether it's playing Fallout 4 or using KiCAD.
I have never used a mousepad, and i used it on all kinds of surfaces. It has never failed me and I will probably wear through the entire paint and material before having to buy a replacement
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is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a Β£10 mouse lasts decades and a Β£200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.
I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.
@gsuberland what's wrong with the M585?
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is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a Β£10 mouse lasts decades and a Β£200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.
I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.
@gsuberland MX2 Anywhere here, Amazon version because prime-day made it actually reasonably priced. currently 7 years old of use most weeks. wife's MX2 (AmZ version for same reasons) lasted over 6 years of office/gaming use until minecraft ended it this year somehow. managed to replace with same thing.
admission - I don't use their software at all (not sure about wife)
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is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a Β£10 mouse lasts decades and a Β£200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.
I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.
@gsuberland I've been using the same Razer Deathadder Essential for longer than I can remember. The software sucks as usual, but the mouse works without it. Two side buttons, no frills.
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@gsuberland i go out of my way to avoid wireless mice and from what I've heard their quality has gone down hill so... good luck?
@azonenberg @gsuberland +1 for avoiding hamsters (aka. mouse without a tail...)
+1 for a Zowie: no frills, no software needed -
is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a Β£10 mouse lasts decades and a Β£200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.
I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.
@gsuberland How's the stuff that got spun out of MS's peripheral division:
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@gsuberland
there is zowie, a benq sub-brandthey make pro-esport mice that has:
- no software or drivers
- settings changed by holding down buttons while powering it up
- no RGBafter *years* of heavy use, one of the button switches failed
(I have not looked at them for years now, so idk if anything has changed or not)
@tthbaltazar @gsuberland Ha, funny, you posted within a minute of a sibling post (https://furry.engineer/@ret/116092906768046277) complaining about the BenQ ownership.
I hadn't heard of them before, but these look pretty sweet. Pricey, but at this point I'll practically pay to not have RGB on things.
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is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a Β£10 mouse lasts decades and a Β£200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.
I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.
@gsuberland it seems their quality is inconsistent. I have their MX vertical, which AFAICT is supposed to be a step down from their MX master series, but that thing has lasted me for five years now and is showing no signs of premature aging.
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@gsuberland it seems their quality is inconsistent. I have their MX vertical, which AFAICT is supposed to be a step down from their MX master series, but that thing has lasted me for five years now and is showing no signs of premature aging.
@jaseg @gsuberland the 3dconnexions mice I've used have been very well made. https://3dconnexion.com/us/cadmouse/
More importantly, they don't look like they were designed by a 12yo.
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is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a Β£10 mouse lasts decades and a Β£200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.
I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.
@gsuberland Maybe try old Logitec ones. I have here two which I uses since more than 20 years...
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I feel like there's a market gap for someone to come in and make premium high-reliability mice designed for professionals. well documented HID map for the extra buttons, lightweight and reliable (but optional) software for customising buttons and gestures, a good cross-platform SDK for any fancy features like haptic feedback or adjustable scroll wheel resistance.
the professional keyboard market is completely saturated already, but mice have been largely overlooked.
@gsuberland
You'll just have to buy some ridiculous overpriced gaming mouse like everyone else. They're not quite as awful as the race-to-the-bottom economy mice. -
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