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is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice?

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  • Venya (he/him/dude) πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦V Venya (he/him/dude) πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦

    @gsuberland

    I would like this. But also a trackball version. πŸ˜ƒ

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    @venya @gsuberland

    Venya, you should look at Elecom. I am ridiculously happy with their trackballs.

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    • Venya (he/him/dude) πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦V Venya (he/him/dude) πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦

      @gsuberland

      I would like this. But also a trackball version. πŸ˜ƒ

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      @venya @gsuberland Regarding trackball... have you tried Elecom?

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      • Graham Sutherland / PolynomialG Graham Sutherland / Polynomial

        please don't reply with things that only meet some of my requirements. "it doesn't exist" is an entirely reasonable answer, and a preferred one over half-solutions.

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        #16

        I feel like there's a market gap for someone to come in and make premium high-reliability mice designed for professionals. well documented HID map for the extra buttons, lightweight and reliable (but optional) software for customising buttons and gestures, a good cross-platform SDK for any fancy features like haptic feedback or adjustable scroll wheel resistance.

        the professional keyboard market is completely saturated already, but mice have been largely overlooked.

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        • gaytabaseD gaytabase

          @gsuberland i'm still gawping at "i'm not interested in trackballs"

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          @dysfun I have tried to like them and I just don't.

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          • Graham Sutherland / PolynomialG Graham Sutherland / Polynomial

            @dysfun I have tried to like them and I just don't.

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            @gsuberland i love them. don't know what i'm going to do when mine breaks any further. can't buy another logitech since they went AI

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            • Graham Sutherland / PolynomialG Graham Sutherland / Polynomial

              is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a Β£10 mouse lasts decades and a Β£200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.

              I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.

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              @gsuberland my Speedlink LEDOS mouse has lasted over 10 years so far, ,and i spent 30€ on it.

              yeah ik red LEDs and "gamer" branding, and it's wired, but doesn't need any software, and it's still comfortable despite me using it with my left hand (which i couldn't say about the MX Master 2S, i literally couldn't use it if i wanted to). the DPI is adjustable, but the highest setting isn't ridiculous and i usually leave it on that by default, whether it's playing Fallout 4 or using KiCAD.

              I have never used a mousepad, and i used it on all kinds of surfaces. It has never failed me and I will probably wear through the entire paint and material before having to buy a replacement

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              • Graham Sutherland / PolynomialG Graham Sutherland / Polynomial

                is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a Β£10 mouse lasts decades and a Β£200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.

                I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.

                you're all idiotsI This user is from outside of this forum
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                @gsuberland what's wrong with the M585?

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                • Graham Sutherland / PolynomialG Graham Sutherland / Polynomial

                  is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a Β£10 mouse lasts decades and a Β£200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.

                  I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.

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                  @gsuberland MX2 Anywhere here, Amazon version because prime-day made it actually reasonably priced. currently 7 years old of use most weeks. wife's MX2 (AmZ version for same reasons) lasted over 6 years of office/gaming use until minecraft ended it this year somehow. managed to replace with same thing.

                  admission - I don't use their software at all (not sure about wife)

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                  • Graham Sutherland / PolynomialG Graham Sutherland / Polynomial

                    is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a Β£10 mouse lasts decades and a Β£200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.

                    I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.

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                    @gsuberland I've been using the same Razer Deathadder Essential for longer than I can remember. The software sucks as usual, but the mouse works without it. Two side buttons, no frills.

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                    • Andrew ZonenbergA Andrew Zonenberg

                      @gsuberland i go out of my way to avoid wireless mice and from what I've heard their quality has gone down hill so... good luck?

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                      @azonenberg @gsuberland +1 for avoiding hamsters (aka. mouse without a tail...)
                      +1 for a Zowie: no frills, no software needed

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                      • Graham Sutherland / PolynomialG Graham Sutherland / Polynomial

                        is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a Β£10 mouse lasts decades and a Β£200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.

                        I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.

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                        @gsuberland How's the stuff that got spun out of MS's peripheral division:

                        https://www.incase.com/collections/mice

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                        • TΓ³th GΓ‘bor BaltazΓ‘rT TΓ³th GΓ‘bor BaltazΓ‘r

                          @gsuberland
                          there is zowie, a benq sub-brand

                          they make pro-esport mice that has:
                          - no software or drivers
                          - settings changed by holding down buttons while powering it up
                          - no RGB

                          after *years* of heavy use, one of the button switches failed

                          (I have not looked at them for years now, so idk if anything has changed or not)

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                          @tthbaltazar @gsuberland Ha, funny, you posted within a minute of a sibling post (https://furry.engineer/@ret/116092906768046277) complaining about the BenQ ownership.

                          I hadn't heard of them before, but these look pretty sweet. Pricey, but at this point I'll practically pay to not have RGB on things.

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                          • Graham Sutherland / PolynomialG Graham Sutherland / Polynomial

                            is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a Β£10 mouse lasts decades and a Β£200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.

                            I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.

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                            @gsuberland it seems their quality is inconsistent. I have their MX vertical, which AFAICT is supposed to be a step down from their MX master series, but that thing has lasted me for five years now and is showing no signs of premature aging.

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                            • jasegJ jaseg

                              @gsuberland it seems their quality is inconsistent. I have their MX vertical, which AFAICT is supposed to be a step down from their MX master series, but that thing has lasted me for five years now and is showing no signs of premature aging.

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                              @jaseg @gsuberland the 3dconnexions mice I've used have been very well made. https://3dconnexion.com/us/cadmouse/

                              More importantly, they don't look like they were designed by a 12yo.

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                              • Graham Sutherland / PolynomialG Graham Sutherland / Polynomial

                                is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a Β£10 mouse lasts decades and a Β£200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.

                                I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.

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                                @gsuberland Maybe try old Logitec ones. I have here two which I uses since more than 20 years...

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                                • Graham Sutherland / PolynomialG Graham Sutherland / Polynomial

                                  I feel like there's a market gap for someone to come in and make premium high-reliability mice designed for professionals. well documented HID map for the extra buttons, lightweight and reliable (but optional) software for customising buttons and gestures, a good cross-platform SDK for any fancy features like haptic feedback or adjustable scroll wheel resistance.

                                  the professional keyboard market is completely saturated already, but mice have been largely overlooked.

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                                  @gsuberland
                                  You'll just have to buy some ridiculous overpriced gaming mouse like everyone else. They're not quite as awful as the race-to-the-bottom economy mice.

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