is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice?
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@gsuberland My G502 Hero mice have been going for quite a long time now. Probably logitech's last generation of wired mouse, has stupid RGB out of the box but there's utilities to turn it off (and update the eeprom so it doesn't come back even if you don't keep the software installed)
Big selling point for me was much better tracking on my tricky surfaces (esd mats, glossy white table tops, etc) than a lot of the cheap ones.
I don't remember how old they are but i think I've replaced one, once, in the past few years across a fleet of three or four. And it was due to cable damage not the mouse failing.
@gsuberland i go out of my way to avoid wireless mice and from what I've heard their quality has gone down hill so... good luck?
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is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a £10 mouse lasts decades and a £200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.
I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.
@gsuberland still miss when Zowie wasn’t owned by Benq.
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is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a £10 mouse lasts decades and a £200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.
I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.
@gsuberland
there is zowie, a benq sub-brandthey make pro-esport mice that has:
- no software or drivers
- settings changed by holding down buttons while powering it up
- no RGBafter *years* of heavy use, one of the button switches failed
(I have not looked at them for years now, so idk if anything has changed or not)
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I would like this. But also a trackball version.
Venya, you should look at Elecom. I am ridiculously happy with their trackballs.
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I would like this. But also a trackball version.
@venya @gsuberland Regarding trackball... have you tried Elecom?
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please don't reply with things that only meet some of my requirements. "it doesn't exist" is an entirely reasonable answer, and a preferred one over half-solutions.
I feel like there's a market gap for someone to come in and make premium high-reliability mice designed for professionals. well documented HID map for the extra buttons, lightweight and reliable (but optional) software for customising buttons and gestures, a good cross-platform SDK for any fancy features like haptic feedback or adjustable scroll wheel resistance.
the professional keyboard market is completely saturated already, but mice have been largely overlooked.
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@gsuberland i'm still gawping at "i'm not interested in trackballs"
@dysfun I have tried to like them and I just don't.
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@dysfun I have tried to like them and I just don't.
@gsuberland i love them. don't know what i'm going to do when mine breaks any further. can't buy another logitech since they went AI
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is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a £10 mouse lasts decades and a £200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.
I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.
@gsuberland my Speedlink LEDOS mouse has lasted over 10 years so far, ,and i spent 30€ on it.
yeah ik red LEDs and "gamer" branding, and it's wired, but doesn't need any software, and it's still comfortable despite me using it with my left hand (which i couldn't say about the MX Master 2S, i literally couldn't use it if i wanted to). the DPI is adjustable, but the highest setting isn't ridiculous and i usually leave it on that by default, whether it's playing Fallout 4 or using KiCAD.
I have never used a mousepad, and i used it on all kinds of surfaces. It has never failed me and I will probably wear through the entire paint and material before having to buy a replacement
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is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a £10 mouse lasts decades and a £200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.
I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.
@gsuberland what's wrong with the M585?
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is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a £10 mouse lasts decades and a £200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.
I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.
@gsuberland MX2 Anywhere here, Amazon version because prime-day made it actually reasonably priced. currently 7 years old of use most weeks. wife's MX2 (AmZ version for same reasons) lasted over 6 years of office/gaming use until minecraft ended it this year somehow. managed to replace with same thing.
admission - I don't use their software at all (not sure about wife)
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is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a £10 mouse lasts decades and a £200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.
I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.
@gsuberland I've been using the same Razer Deathadder Essential for longer than I can remember. The software sucks as usual, but the mouse works without it. Two side buttons, no frills.
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@gsuberland i go out of my way to avoid wireless mice and from what I've heard their quality has gone down hill so... good luck?
@azonenberg @gsuberland +1 for avoiding hamsters (aka. mouse without a tail...)
+1 for a Zowie: no frills, no software needed -
is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a £10 mouse lasts decades and a £200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.
I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.
@gsuberland How's the stuff that got spun out of MS's peripheral division:
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@gsuberland
there is zowie, a benq sub-brandthey make pro-esport mice that has:
- no software or drivers
- settings changed by holding down buttons while powering it up
- no RGBafter *years* of heavy use, one of the button switches failed
(I have not looked at them for years now, so idk if anything has changed or not)
@tthbaltazar @gsuberland Ha, funny, you posted within a minute of a sibling post (https://furry.engineer/@ret/116092906768046277) complaining about the BenQ ownership.
I hadn't heard of them before, but these look pretty sweet. Pricey, but at this point I'll practically pay to not have RGB on things.
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is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a £10 mouse lasts decades and a £200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.
I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.
@gsuberland it seems their quality is inconsistent. I have their MX vertical, which AFAICT is supposed to be a step down from their MX master series, but that thing has lasted me for five years now and is showing no signs of premature aging.
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@gsuberland it seems their quality is inconsistent. I have their MX vertical, which AFAICT is supposed to be a step down from their MX master series, but that thing has lasted me for five years now and is showing no signs of premature aging.
@jaseg @gsuberland the 3dconnexions mice I've used have been very well made. https://3dconnexion.com/us/cadmouse/
More importantly, they don't look like they were designed by a 12yo.
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is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a £10 mouse lasts decades and a £200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.
I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.
@gsuberland Maybe try old Logitec ones. I have here two which I uses since more than 20 years...
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I feel like there's a market gap for someone to come in and make premium high-reliability mice designed for professionals. well documented HID map for the extra buttons, lightweight and reliable (but optional) software for customising buttons and gestures, a good cross-platform SDK for any fancy features like haptic feedback or adjustable scroll wheel resistance.
the professional keyboard market is completely saturated already, but mice have been largely overlooked.
@gsuberland
You'll just have to buy some ridiculous overpriced gaming mouse like everyone else. They're not quite as awful as the race-to-the-bottom economy mice. -
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