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is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice?

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  • Graham Sutherland / PolynomialG Graham Sutherland / Polynomial

    is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a Β£10 mouse lasts decades and a Β£200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.

    I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.

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    @gsuberland my Speedlink LEDOS mouse has lasted over 10 years so far, ,and i spent 30€ on it.

    yeah ik red LEDs and "gamer" branding, and it's wired, but doesn't need any software, and it's still comfortable despite me using it with my left hand (which i couldn't say about the MX Master 2S, i literally couldn't use it if i wanted to). the DPI is adjustable, but the highest setting isn't ridiculous and i usually leave it on that by default, whether it's playing Fallout 4 or using KiCAD.

    I have never used a mousepad, and i used it on all kinds of surfaces. It has never failed me and I will probably wear through the entire paint and material before having to buy a replacement

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    • Graham Sutherland / PolynomialG Graham Sutherland / Polynomial

      is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a Β£10 mouse lasts decades and a Β£200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.

      I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.

      you're all idiotsI This user is from outside of this forum
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      @gsuberland what's wrong with the M585?

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      • Graham Sutherland / PolynomialG Graham Sutherland / Polynomial

        is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a Β£10 mouse lasts decades and a Β£200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.

        I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.

        evilstevieE This user is from outside of this forum
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        @gsuberland MX2 Anywhere here, Amazon version because prime-day made it actually reasonably priced. currently 7 years old of use most weeks. wife's MX2 (AmZ version for same reasons) lasted over 6 years of office/gaming use until minecraft ended it this year somehow. managed to replace with same thing.

        admission - I don't use their software at all (not sure about wife)

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        • Graham Sutherland / PolynomialG Graham Sutherland / Polynomial

          is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a Β£10 mouse lasts decades and a Β£200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.

          I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.

          Dr. Christopher KunzC This user is from outside of this forum
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          @gsuberland I've been using the same Razer Deathadder Essential for longer than I can remember. The software sucks as usual, but the mouse works without it. Two side buttons, no frills.

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          • Andrew ZonenbergA Andrew Zonenberg

            @gsuberland i go out of my way to avoid wireless mice and from what I've heard their quality has gone down hill so... good luck?

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            @azonenberg @gsuberland +1 for avoiding hamsters (aka. mouse without a tail...)
            +1 for a Zowie: no frills, no software needed

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            • Graham Sutherland / PolynomialG Graham Sutherland / Polynomial

              is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a Β£10 mouse lasts decades and a Β£200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.

              I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.

              penguin42P This user is from outside of this forum
              penguin42P This user is from outside of this forum
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              @gsuberland How's the stuff that got spun out of MS's peripheral division:

              https://www.incase.com/collections/mice

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              • TΓ³th GΓ‘bor BaltazΓ‘rT TΓ³th GΓ‘bor BaltazΓ‘r

                @gsuberland
                there is zowie, a benq sub-brand

                they make pro-esport mice that has:
                - no software or drivers
                - settings changed by holding down buttons while powering it up
                - no RGB

                after *years* of heavy use, one of the button switches failed

                (I have not looked at them for years now, so idk if anything has changed or not)

                EmpterdoseM This user is from outside of this forum
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                @tthbaltazar @gsuberland Ha, funny, you posted within a minute of a sibling post (https://furry.engineer/@ret/116092906768046277) complaining about the BenQ ownership.

                I hadn't heard of them before, but these look pretty sweet. Pricey, but at this point I'll practically pay to not have RGB on things.

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                • Graham Sutherland / PolynomialG Graham Sutherland / Polynomial

                  is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a Β£10 mouse lasts decades and a Β£200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.

                  I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.

                  jasegJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @gsuberland it seems their quality is inconsistent. I have their MX vertical, which AFAICT is supposed to be a step down from their MX master series, but that thing has lasted me for five years now and is showing no signs of premature aging.

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                  • jasegJ jaseg

                    @gsuberland it seems their quality is inconsistent. I have their MX vertical, which AFAICT is supposed to be a step down from their MX master series, but that thing has lasted me for five years now and is showing no signs of premature aging.

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                    @jaseg @gsuberland the 3dconnexions mice I've used have been very well made. https://3dconnexion.com/us/cadmouse/

                    More importantly, they don't look like they were designed by a 12yo.

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                    • Graham Sutherland / PolynomialG Graham Sutherland / Polynomial

                      is there a company that makes robust high-end productivity mice? Logitech's hardware longevity isn't hitting the mark for how expensive their MX Master series is (it's really unacceptable that a Β£10 mouse lasts decades and a Β£200 mouse lasts a year), and their software is absolutely clownshoes bad.

                      I'm not interested in trackballs or strange orientations. I want something professional and robust, wireless, with side buttons, no gamer RGB 50000dpi crap. an MX Master 2S but actually well-built.

                      itsFridayI This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @gsuberland Maybe try old Logitec ones. I have here two which I uses since more than 20 years...

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                      • Graham Sutherland / PolynomialG Graham Sutherland / Polynomial

                        I feel like there's a market gap for someone to come in and make premium high-reliability mice designed for professionals. well documented HID map for the extra buttons, lightweight and reliable (but optional) software for customising buttons and gestures, a good cross-platform SDK for any fancy features like haptic feedback or adjustable scroll wheel resistance.

                        the professional keyboard market is completely saturated already, but mice have been largely overlooked.

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                        @gsuberland
                        You'll just have to buy some ridiculous overpriced gaming mouse like everyone else. They're not quite as awful as the race-to-the-bottom economy mice.

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