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  • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

    Actions speak louder than words.

    I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

    Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

    A frontal attack to our #privacy.

    Stupid, no?

    @EUCommission

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    URP74
    wrote last edited by
    #65

    @jdelacueva

    Works fine on /e/OS however...

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    • Sco :progress: :flag_mm:S Sco :progress: :flag_mm:

      @GOKUSHRM @phil @jdelacueva @EUCommission
      I do have Teams installed on a Lineage based thing. From Aurora. And recently it says it will not function without Play integration. It lets me log in, but it will not show anything really.

      From what I understand, Play issues certain certificates that non-Play markets dont.

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      #66

      @Scofisticated @phil @jdelacueva @EUCommission element, element x, jitsi meet are grt alternatives of MS team. All are open source apps. All available on F-Droid as well as on aurora

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      • ΔžΓ–KΓœπŸ‘»πŸ‘»β„’G ΔžΓ–KΓœπŸ‘»πŸ‘»β„’

        @Scofisticated @phil @jdelacueva @EUCommission element, element x, jitsi meet are grt alternatives of MS team. All are open source apps. All available on F-Droid as well as on aurora

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        #67

        @GOKUSHRM The Teams is for work. Otherwise, I wouldnt bother.

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        • Sco :progress: :flag_mm:S Sco :progress: :flag_mm:

          @GOKUSHRM The Teams is for work. Otherwise, I wouldnt bother.

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          #68

          @Scofisticated with microG u can use teams without issue.. But if u using lineageos then u should use Foss apps like jitsi meets for personal or for work.. Try jitsi meet

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            #69

            @guigsy @Scofisticated OOPS, πŸ˜”, then no option.. Last option.. Install Google play service app (oldest version) & turn off all internet connection option in app setting. Use ur team app... MS Google apple all joined hands together. All doing shit

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            • https://purl.org/rzr#R https://purl.org/rzr#

              https://mastodon.social/@jdelacueva/116103089304791787#

              Is there any public group taking care of #Eu #DigitalSovereignty (for what ever it means ?)

              Is it part of #CRA requirements ?

              I have similar concerns regarding #MsMonopoly on #SecureBoot for #x86 #Computers (#PCs and #Servers).

              Are anti concurrency practices also a model threat to you ?

              Lot of questions, few answers so far, only implementations with mixed feelings..

              Inputs welcome anyway

              @matv1 @jdelacueva @EUCommission

              LambertL This user is from outside of this forum
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              #70

              @rzr @matv1 @jdelacueva @EUCommission the EU Login Mobile App should not require any Google services and it should be Open Source - the EU should start acting according to its own values and mission statement instead of preaching #digitalsovereignty but practising the contrary.

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              • URP74U URP74

                @jdelacueva

                Works fine on /e/OS however...

                84728 This user is from outside of this forum
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                8472
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                #71

                @URP74 @jdelacueva thanks to microg. Still connects to google πŸ˜‘

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                • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                  Actions speak louder than words.

                  I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                  Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                  A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                  Stupid, no?

                  @EUCommission

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                  Fokeu πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊπŸš©
                  wrote last edited by
                  #72

                  @jdelacueva @EUCommission This is unacceptable.

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                  • LambertL Lambert

                    @rzr @matv1 @jdelacueva @EUCommission the EU Login Mobile App should not require any Google services and it should be Open Source - the EU should start acting according to its own values and mission statement instead of preaching #digitalsovereignty but practising the contrary.

                    Robert Riemann πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊR This user is from outside of this forum
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                    Robert Riemann πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡Ί
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                    @lambert @rzr @matv1 @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                    I'm involved in some discussion on this matter. The short answer is that the app is not mandatory: one can use other factors. However, I only heard of few people that have figured out how to use the alternative factors.

                    Best,
                    Robert

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                    • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                      Actions speak louder than words.

                      I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                      Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                      A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                      Stupid, no?

                      @EUCommission

                      FaxeF This user is from outside of this forum
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                      Faxe
                      wrote last edited by
                      #74

                      maybe this helps:

                      https://github.com/microg/GmsCore/wiki

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                      • FaxeF Faxe

                        maybe this helps:

                        https://github.com/microg/GmsCore/wiki

                        84728 This user is from outside of this forum
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                        8472
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                        #75

                        @faxe it does. I testet it on /e/OS which hat microg on board.

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                        • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                          Actions speak louder than words.

                          I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                          Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                          A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                          Stupid, no?

                          @EUCommission

                          Giorgio ComaiG This user is from outside of this forum
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                          Giorgio Comai
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                          @jdelacueva @EUCommission A couple of years ago, I complained to the portal's assistance service about this very issue, and this is the reply I got.

                          With SMS now not any more an option, we are really left only with FIDO2 keys.

                          It is unclear why they can't use established OTP standards compliant with many different platforms, and, if they really, *really* need to re-invent the wheel, why they must release their solution only through US-based platforms that come with debatable ToS.

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                          • ΔžΓ–KΓœπŸ‘»πŸ‘»β„’G ΔžΓ–KΓœπŸ‘»πŸ‘»β„’

                            @guigsy @Scofisticated OOPS, πŸ˜”, then no option.. Last option.. Install Google play service app (oldest version) & turn off all internet connection option in app setting. Use ur team app... MS Google apple all joined hands together. All doing shit

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                            #77

                            @GOKUSHRM @guigsy Yeah, no choice for work.

                            I am looking at Graphine as an option. I saw it has Play in a container. I've trying to stick with non-andriod, linux options. But here are mobile connection shinanigans/ difficulties.

                            I def think those 3 are cooperating for an ecosystem more benificial to them.

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                            • Sco :progress: :flag_mm:S Sco :progress: :flag_mm:

                              @GOKUSHRM @guigsy Yeah, no choice for work.

                              I am looking at Graphine as an option. I saw it has Play in a container. I've trying to stick with non-andriod, linux options. But here are mobile connection shinanigans/ difficulties.

                              I def think those 3 are cooperating for an ecosystem more benificial to them.

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                              @Scofisticated @guigsy graphine os.. Hmm. But that's only available for googles pixel device...

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                                @lumi Pretending that this is a good use for DRM has been a grift thirty years in the making.

                                https://web.archive.org/web/20141129042827/https://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/2016.wss

                                @jdelacueva @IvanSanchez @EUCommission @fruitchypear @greatlaketrout

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                                • ΔžΓ–KΓœπŸ‘»πŸ‘»β„’G ΔžΓ–KΓœπŸ‘»πŸ‘»β„’

                                  @Scofisticated @guigsy graphine os.. Hmm. But that's only available for googles pixel device...

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                                  @GOKUSHRM I know. That's my delima. Trust Graphine and Pixels, and get APKs (easier, using Waydroid now). Or, deal with finicky LTE on Linux mobile, with the freedom from Alphabet.

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                                  • Sco :progress: :flag_mm:S Sco :progress: :flag_mm:

                                    @GOKUSHRM I know. That's my delima. Trust Graphine and Pixels, and get APKs (easier, using Waydroid now). Or, deal with finicky LTE on Linux mobile, with the freedom from Alphabet.

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                                    @Scofisticated 2 phone's. 1 for work no personal photos videos apps chats songs nothing.

                                    2nd phone for personal use chat songs video photos everything with custom rom & Foss apps

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                                    • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                      Actions speak louder than words.

                                      I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                      Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                      A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                      Stupid, no?

                                      @EUCommission

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                                      Wulfyβ€”Speaker to the machines
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #82

                                      @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                                      Yeah, I got the same issue running #grapheneOS
                                      My phone is more secure than the mainstream trash, but #banksters don't recognise it because they don't have a periscope up my arse.

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                                      • ΔžΓ–KΓœπŸ‘»πŸ‘»β„’G ΔžΓ–KΓœπŸ‘»πŸ‘»β„’

                                        @Scofisticated 2 phone's. 1 for work no personal photos videos apps chats songs nothing.

                                        2nd phone for personal use chat songs video photos everything with custom rom & Foss apps

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                                        @GOKUSHRM been doing something like that. Was hoping to get away from it. But might have to keep doing it.

                                        But thats for the help. I forget about the other de-googled options.

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                                        • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                          Actions speak louder than words.

                                          I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                          Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                          A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                          Stupid, no?

                                          @EUCommission

                                          Steve HoldenH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          Steve Holden
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                                          @jdelacueva @EUCommission Certainly unnecessary, but EU pols (pols generally, in fact) don’t seem either well-informed or concerned about such important matters.

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