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  • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

    Actions speak louder than words.

    I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

    Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

    A frontal attack to our #privacy.

    Stupid, no?

    @EUCommission

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    wrote last edited by
    #72

    @jdelacueva @EUCommission This is unacceptable.

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    • LambertL Lambert

      @rzr @matv1 @jdelacueva @EUCommission the EU Login Mobile App should not require any Google services and it should be Open Source - the EU should start acting according to its own values and mission statement instead of preaching #digitalsovereignty but practising the contrary.

      Robert Riemann πŸ‡ͺπŸ‡ΊR This user is from outside of this forum
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      wrote last edited by
      #73

      @lambert @rzr @matv1 @jdelacueva @EUCommission

      I'm involved in some discussion on this matter. The short answer is that the app is not mandatory: one can use other factors. However, I only heard of few people that have figured out how to use the alternative factors.

      Best,
      Robert

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      • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

        Actions speak louder than words.

        I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

        Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

        A frontal attack to our #privacy.

        Stupid, no?

        @EUCommission

        FaxeF This user is from outside of this forum
        FaxeF This user is from outside of this forum
        Faxe
        wrote last edited by
        #74

        maybe this helps:

        https://github.com/microg/GmsCore/wiki

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        • FaxeF Faxe

          maybe this helps:

          https://github.com/microg/GmsCore/wiki

          84728 This user is from outside of this forum
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          8472
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          #75

          @faxe it does. I testet it on /e/OS which hat microg on board.

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          • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

            Actions speak louder than words.

            I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

            Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

            A frontal attack to our #privacy.

            Stupid, no?

            @EUCommission

            Giorgio ComaiG This user is from outside of this forum
            Giorgio ComaiG This user is from outside of this forum
            Giorgio Comai
            wrote last edited by
            #76

            @jdelacueva @EUCommission A couple of years ago, I complained to the portal's assistance service about this very issue, and this is the reply I got.

            With SMS now not any more an option, we are really left only with FIDO2 keys.

            It is unclear why they can't use established OTP standards compliant with many different platforms, and, if they really, *really* need to re-invent the wheel, why they must release their solution only through US-based platforms that come with debatable ToS.

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            • ΔžΓ–KΓœπŸ‘»πŸ‘»β„’G ΔžΓ–KΓœπŸ‘»πŸ‘»β„’

              @guigsy @Scofisticated OOPS, πŸ˜”, then no option.. Last option.. Install Google play service app (oldest version) & turn off all internet connection option in app setting. Use ur team app... MS Google apple all joined hands together. All doing shit

              Sco :progress: :flag_mm:S This user is from outside of this forum
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              Sco :progress: :flag_mm:
              wrote last edited by
              #77

              @GOKUSHRM @guigsy Yeah, no choice for work.

              I am looking at Graphine as an option. I saw it has Play in a container. I've trying to stick with non-andriod, linux options. But here are mobile connection shinanigans/ difficulties.

              I def think those 3 are cooperating for an ecosystem more benificial to them.

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              • Sco :progress: :flag_mm:S Sco :progress: :flag_mm:

                @GOKUSHRM @guigsy Yeah, no choice for work.

                I am looking at Graphine as an option. I saw it has Play in a container. I've trying to stick with non-andriod, linux options. But here are mobile connection shinanigans/ difficulties.

                I def think those 3 are cooperating for an ecosystem more benificial to them.

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                wrote last edited by
                #78

                @Scofisticated @guigsy graphine os.. Hmm. But that's only available for googles pixel device...

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                • Riley S. FaelanR This user is from outside of this forum
                  Riley S. FaelanR This user is from outside of this forum
                  Riley S. Faelan
                  wrote last edited by
                  #79

                  @lumi Pretending that this is a good use for DRM has been a grift thirty years in the making.

                  https://web.archive.org/web/20141129042827/https://www-03.ibm.com/press/us/en/pressrelease/2016.wss

                  @jdelacueva @IvanSanchez @EUCommission @fruitchypear @greatlaketrout

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                  • ΔžΓ–KΓœπŸ‘»πŸ‘»β„’G ΔžΓ–KΓœπŸ‘»πŸ‘»β„’

                    @Scofisticated @guigsy graphine os.. Hmm. But that's only available for googles pixel device...

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                    wrote last edited by
                    #80

                    @GOKUSHRM I know. That's my delima. Trust Graphine and Pixels, and get APKs (easier, using Waydroid now). Or, deal with finicky LTE on Linux mobile, with the freedom from Alphabet.

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                    • Sco :progress: :flag_mm:S Sco :progress: :flag_mm:

                      @GOKUSHRM I know. That's my delima. Trust Graphine and Pixels, and get APKs (easier, using Waydroid now). Or, deal with finicky LTE on Linux mobile, with the freedom from Alphabet.

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                      #81

                      @Scofisticated 2 phone's. 1 for work no personal photos videos apps chats songs nothing.

                      2nd phone for personal use chat songs video photos everything with custom rom & Foss apps

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                      • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                        Actions speak louder than words.

                        I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                        Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                        A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                        Stupid, no?

                        @EUCommission

                        Wulfyβ€”Speaker to the machinesN This user is from outside of this forum
                        Wulfyβ€”Speaker to the machinesN This user is from outside of this forum
                        Wulfyβ€”Speaker to the machines
                        wrote last edited by
                        #82

                        @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                        Yeah, I got the same issue running #grapheneOS
                        My phone is more secure than the mainstream trash, but #banksters don't recognise it because they don't have a periscope up my arse.

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                        • ΔžΓ–KΓœπŸ‘»πŸ‘»β„’G ΔžΓ–KΓœπŸ‘»πŸ‘»β„’

                          @Scofisticated 2 phone's. 1 for work no personal photos videos apps chats songs nothing.

                          2nd phone for personal use chat songs video photos everything with custom rom & Foss apps

                          Sco :progress: :flag_mm:S This user is from outside of this forum
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                          Sco :progress: :flag_mm:
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                          #83

                          @GOKUSHRM been doing something like that. Was hoping to get away from it. But might have to keep doing it.

                          But thats for the help. I forget about the other de-googled options.

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                          • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                            Actions speak louder than words.

                            I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                            Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                            A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                            Stupid, no?

                            @EUCommission

                            Steve HoldenH This user is from outside of this forum
                            Steve HoldenH This user is from outside of this forum
                            Steve Holden
                            wrote last edited by
                            #84

                            @jdelacueva @EUCommission Certainly unnecessary, but EU pols (pols generally, in fact) don’t seem either well-informed or concerned about such important matters.

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                            • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                              Actions speak louder than words.

                              I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                              Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                              A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                              Stupid, no?

                              @EUCommission

                              agremonR This user is from outside of this forum
                              agremonR This user is from outside of this forum
                              agremon
                              wrote last edited by
                              #85

                              @jdelacueva @EUCommission Pues hay que ir buscando alternativa antes del capado de Android decretado por Google...

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                              • Henrik PauliP Henrik Pauli

                                @jdelacueva @EUCommission Similarly, that banks can deny you service because you're using a non-Google-approved system (instead of a wildly more insecure chinesium Android that was abandoned 5 years ago, which is magically still okay to use somehow), is an absolute disgrace and just really shouldn't be a thing.

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                                DJDarren
                                wrote last edited by
                                #86

                                @phl @jdelacueva @EUCommission *nods in GrapheneOS*

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                                • Wulfyβ€”Speaker to the machinesN Wulfyβ€”Speaker to the machines

                                  @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                                  Yeah, I got the same issue running #grapheneOS
                                  My phone is more secure than the mainstream trash, but #banksters don't recognise it because they don't have a periscope up my arse.

                                  mrrustbotM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  mrrustbot
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                                  #87

                                  @n_dimension @jdelacueva

                                  From what I understand, a workaround is to create a new user and install Google Play Services and this app just for that user. Then just switch between that user and your normal one.

                                  When you switch back to your normal user, Google Play Services and everything else the other user has installed will stop running completely.

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                                  • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                    Actions speak louder than words.

                                    I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                    Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                    A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                    Stupid, no?

                                    @EUCommission

                                    Grrsly Adams Family VacationG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    Grrsly Adams Family Vacation
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #88

                                    @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                                    You mean you're unwilling to hand your personal information to oligarchs to increase their wealth for the privilege of using a communications network which they don't own and which your government mandates?

                                    What nerve!

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                                    • Sco :progress: :flag_mm:S Sco :progress: :flag_mm:

                                      @GOKUSHRM been doing something like that. Was hoping to get away from it. But might have to keep doing it.

                                      But thats for the help. I forget about the other de-googled options.

                                      JayJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                      JayJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Jay
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #89

                                      @Scofisticated @GOKUSHRM
                                      I spent months and months trying to square the circle and ended up with a Pixel running Graphene as personal phone, and a cheap Samsung that's just a Teams + Authenticator + InTune solution...
                                      I'm actually very happy and realising it reduces some other headaches I hadn't noticed, plus future proofs me against the corpo bullshit getting worse.

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                                      • Sco :progress: :flag_mm:S Sco :progress: :flag_mm:

                                        @GOKUSHRM been doing something like that. Was hoping to get away from it. But might have to keep doing it.

                                        But thats for the help. I forget about the other de-googled options.

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                                        @Scofisticated until u/we find proper solution for this issue, keep 2 phone's and use separately for personal & professional work.. Or change ur work that doesn't need ms teams (joking πŸ˜‚).

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                                        • Sco :progress: :flag_mm:S Sco :progress: :flag_mm:

                                          @GOKUSHRM been doing something like that. Was hoping to get away from it. But might have to keep doing it.

                                          But thats for the help. I forget about the other de-googled options.

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                                          ΔžΓ–KΓœπŸ‘»πŸ‘»β„’
                                          wrote last edited by
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                                          @Scofisticated am still at stock rom but without any google apps except google play service app (not updated & no internet connection). I also delete all my inbuilt apps like phone calculator clock weather message files music video player camera browser and replaced all with Foss apps. So zero corporate shit. I don't use any banking apps, I go to my bank and do things manually. That's how I keep my life easy and private (99%)πŸ˜…

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