Do you ever get turned on by your own body/presentation?

@alice@lgbtqia.space can't answer the poll because thans people don't get man/woman options here. (masc or femme does not cut it, sorry) anyway, sometimes if i don't get dysphoric.

@alice may I also add that I'm OLD and my days of being "sexy" are well and truly behind me 🤪

@pdcawley @alice

Agreed. Totally different question with different connotations.

@alice Questions like these – e.g. "Do you like yourself?" – always really baffle me because the premise is so alien to the way I experience myself and the world, i.e. I don't experience myself as external to myself: I neither like nor dislike myself, I *am* myself. Being attracted to myself, being turned on by my own body/presentation, liking myself – these modes of experience *categorically* don't make sense to me.

@alice @pdcawley Yeah! I have occasionally got turned on looking at myself, but I would never want to fuck myself. I got turned on because my subconscious was like "wow I might actually be attractive, better activate biological mechanisms that prepare my body for having sex." Not "wow what a sexy woman behind that glass, I sure want to have sex with her."

@alipunk @alice I am ‍️

@alice
Umm….maybe if I had a mochi minky pajamas…also I may have an intimate encounter with myself… it depends I mean even if you shoot two identical twins out they experience time differently life differently, so I have no idea if my other half would be attracted to me, I doubt it, if we were a hive mind stuff could be boring. Idk there’s simply too many things and we ourselves are simply too many things for me to calculate all that and say for sure.

@alice
If I were someone else then who would be me?

@alice *keeps laughying in plural system.*

@momo I asked my (very cishet) mom a (watered down) version of this question, and she was like "eww, no".

Apparently she likes penises, and body hair, and boy-smell, and such.

Though she shaves her body, wears makeup and perfume, and dresses feminine.

And it blew my mind that you'd want to make yourself less attractive to yourself.

I mean, I haven't always found myself attractive, even though I know a lot of other folx did, but I've always worked to make myself more attractive *to me*. It took a lot of unlearning toxic shit, but now that I can find myself attractive, I *wish* I'd gotten here so much sooner.

@roknrol I'm with you there. I want Chris Evans as Captain America bod. And yes, I know that's an unrealistic beauty standard...but damn.

@alipunk

@pandabutter I would've said a copy of yourself, a clone, and alternate reality version of you, etc, but any wording I used would invite some percentage of people to be like "well that changes everything"

@aelfsige 🫂

@gabriel @alice an argument I've seen before is "you aren't your type", which I think can help for people who don't see themselves as attractive even though they probably are plenty of other peoples' "type".

@IanAMartin assuming your profile photo is of you, you don't seem unattractive to me (and I like to think I have fairly discerning taste) ‍️

@alice
Okay, then I should bring this up with my therapist, because this could lead to self-caring behavior and he is a very big fan of his depression patients actively self-care, taking breaks, doing stuff just for themselves (like taking a long bath instead of a quick shower)...

Thank you for planting that idea in my head. 🥰

@jwdt @gabriel @alice This, I find. One may not be their own type, but it's possible they are someone else's. Some traditionally masc or fem features may not work for those that are not attracted to such things, but they could be important to someone else.

Also, I wouldn't want to forget that some may not feel attraction to physical presentation much at all (I sadly forget the term), but the other kind of things that make a person, the more mental side. Maybe they'd be with themselves in that regard? Alice's alternative question phrasing would have accounted for that angle, I do suppose.

@gabriel @alice @jwdt I think there's also a general difference between finding oneself attractive and getting turned on by oneself?
And of course also the whole "not my type" thing

Besides that I think many people see themselves not the same as other people see them: because we're all aware about our inner states and every tiny little thought. But I wouldn't be aware of those things if I would just observe a clone of me
So it doesn't seem unusual if somebody finds me hot, even if I don't

@gabriel @alice @jwdt (and besides that, I understand "being with someone" as "dating someone" and that doesn't even need sex or physical attraction at all. So of course I can expect somebody to want to be with me, even if I don't get turned on by myself, even if that would mean, that nobody does either (which I don't agree with/think is true))

@alice my answer would change. I answered yes, but I probably wouldn't fuck myself, because I'm just not really compatible with myself sex-wise. And I'm just not into sex that's not good for either party. Unless "being someone else" would also change some of my sexual preferences (in the right way), then I would fuck myself

(Realistically speaking I probably would fuck myself either way, just because it's a once in a lifetime chance and would make a good story )