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Blame the Premiers, in particular some of which are working hard to achieve this exact result as a lead up to proposing privatization.

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  • TrèsFlukeD TrèsFluke

    @johnefrancis @chad @northernlights @dmacphee @EdwinG I've often wondered if Doug Ford et al. can be charged for criminal negligence of our healthcare system.

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    @darrenmorin @johnefrancis @northernlights @dmacphee @EdwinG I'm more interested in seeing the unelected folks that are meeting with the Trump admin see some accountability.

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    • Francisca SinnF Francisca Sinn

      @chad @northernlights @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG I remember BILLIONS of dollars in transfers to Ontario during COVID “held” by Doug Ford and not used for patient care. “Allocated” they said, but they didn’t spent it on patients, and later went back to the feds wanting more money without restrictions.

      https://www.ipolitics.ca/2021/01/26/ontario-sitting-on-billions-of-unspent-covid-relief-cash-report/

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      @fsinn @northernlights @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG Kenney did the same thing in Alberta.

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      • John Francis 🇨🇦🦫🍁💪⬆️J John Francis 🇨🇦🦫🍁💪⬆️

        @chad @northernlights @dmacphee @EdwinG this is for laws, policies, agreements, govt. operations.

        I don't credit economic performance to govts, positive or negative. By the time economic impacts are realized, someone who was >40yo in govt. will be mostly dead.

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        @johnefrancis @chad @dmacphee @EdwinG

        With respect to Justin Trudeau's attempt to amend the healthcare act, you seem to have forgotten that Canada works more as a partnership between the federal government and the provincial governments. That is, provinces joined Confederation at different times and each province negotiated its own agreement to join, with its own division of powers (areas over which the feds and provs have authority and for which they take responsibility).

        The CHA establishes the principle of universal healthcare in Canada and funds on the basis of this principle; administering the healthcare is under provincial jurisdiction. Any changes to the way it is administered are decided by provincial governments.

        Canada does not have a fantasy situation where the federal government is all-powerful and can force provincial governments to change their administration of healthcare. Don't be fooled by separatist rhetoric that the feds are the villains in declining healthcare administration.

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        • ItsDoctorNotMrs 🇨🇦N ItsDoctorNotMrs 🇨🇦

          @johnefrancis @chad @dmacphee @EdwinG

          With respect to Justin Trudeau's attempt to amend the healthcare act, you seem to have forgotten that Canada works more as a partnership between the federal government and the provincial governments. That is, provinces joined Confederation at different times and each province negotiated its own agreement to join, with its own division of powers (areas over which the feds and provs have authority and for which they take responsibility).

          The CHA establishes the principle of universal healthcare in Canada and funds on the basis of this principle; administering the healthcare is under provincial jurisdiction. Any changes to the way it is administered are decided by provincial governments.

          Canada does not have a fantasy situation where the federal government is all-powerful and can force provincial governments to change their administration of healthcare. Don't be fooled by separatist rhetoric that the feds are the villains in declining healthcare administration.

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          @northernlights @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG they can - and have - threatened to pull CHA funding for these exact reasons.

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          • Chad :mstdn:C Chad :mstdn:

            @northernlights @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG they can - and have - threatened to pull CHA funding for these exact reasons.

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            @chad @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG

            Who is 'they' and when did this happen?

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            • ItsDoctorNotMrs 🇨🇦N ItsDoctorNotMrs 🇨🇦

              @chad @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG

              Who is 'they' and when did this happen?

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              @northernlights @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG Pierre Trudeau era.

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              • Francisca SinnF Francisca Sinn

                @chad @northernlights @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG I remember BILLIONS of dollars in transfers to Ontario during COVID “held” by Doug Ford and not used for patient care. “Allocated” they said, but they didn’t spent it on patients, and later went back to the feds wanting more money without restrictions.

                https://www.ipolitics.ca/2021/01/26/ontario-sitting-on-billions-of-unspent-covid-relief-cash-report/

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                @fsinn thats a strange system where they can just decide your money is their slush fund

                @chad @northernlights @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG

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                • Chad :mstdn:C Chad :mstdn:

                  @northernlights @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG Pierre Trudeau era.

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                  @chad @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG

                  The Canada Health Act was created in 1984, which was right in the middle of the Trudeau Era.

                  Was Alberta attempting to get more than its fair share when invited to join a national programme, and so, may have been threatened with exclusion?

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                  • Chad :mstdn:C Chad :mstdn:

                    @fsinn @northernlights @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG Kenney did the same thing in Alberta.

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                    @chad @northernlights @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG Ugh.

                    It’s just gross that so many people with absolutely zero interest in helping other people become politicians and get elected. Just consistently the worst kind of people in office literally leading to deaths of constituents. Ugh.

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                    • BeccaB Becca

                      @fsinn thats a strange system where they can just decide your money is their slush fund

                      @chad @northernlights @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG

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                      @bweller @chad @northernlights @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG And Smith with her newest attempt to “direct” judges. Her words. Uuuggghh.

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                      • BeccaB Becca

                        @fsinn thats a strange system where they can just decide your money is their slush fund

                        @chad @northernlights @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG

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                        @bweller @fsinn @chad @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG

                        That's exactly why Justin Trudeau's govt attempted to gain more transparency and the Conservative provincial govts refused, hard.

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                        • Francisca SinnF Francisca Sinn

                          @bweller @chad @northernlights @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG And Smith with her newest attempt to “direct” judges. Her words. Uuuggghh.

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                          @fsinn @bweller @chad @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG

                          She is such a Trump wannabe, it makes me sick. She really wants Alberta to be the 51st state.

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                          • ItsDoctorNotMrs 🇨🇦N ItsDoctorNotMrs 🇨🇦

                            @fsinn @bweller @chad @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG

                            She is such a Trump wannabe, it makes me sick. She really wants Alberta to be the 51st state.

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                            @northernlights @bweller @chad @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG Andrew Coyne had a great piece on this. She (they) can leave, but they can’t take the land that is “Alberta” with them. It wasn’t ever a separate territory or country, it was created by the federal government of Canada. And I think the Indigenous peoples of those lands have a few words for Smith.

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                            • Francisca SinnF Francisca Sinn

                              @northernlights @bweller @chad @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG Andrew Coyne had a great piece on this. She (they) can leave, but they can’t take the land that is “Alberta” with them. It wasn’t ever a separate territory or country, it was created by the federal government of Canada. And I think the Indigenous peoples of those lands have a few words for Smith.

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                              @fsinn @northernlights @bweller @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG I'm ashamed that we're looking to Indigenous communities to defend our place in Canada after everything we did to them.

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                              • Francisca SinnF Francisca Sinn

                                @northernlights @bweller @chad @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG Andrew Coyne had a great piece on this. She (they) can leave, but they can’t take the land that is “Alberta” with them. It wasn’t ever a separate territory or country, it was created by the federal government of Canada. And I think the Indigenous peoples of those lands have a few words for Smith.

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                                @fsinn @northernlights @bweller @chad @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG Some of which might even be printable!

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                                • ItsDoctorNotMrs 🇨🇦N ItsDoctorNotMrs 🇨🇦

                                  @chad @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG

                                  Who is 'they' and when did this happen?

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                                  @northernlights @chad @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG

                                  I just learned about the [Council of the Federation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_the_Federation), about which I had never read before even when studying up for citizenship.

                                  This is actually fascinating.

                                  And the first thing it makes me think of is: Smoke & Mirrors. It doesn't get much more back room dealing than this. Even the #Wikipedia article is tagged for possible manipulation via primary sources.

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                                  • Daniel MacPhee 🔬🧬🧫🇨🇦D Daniel MacPhee 🔬🧬🧫🇨🇦

                                    RE: https://mstdn.moimeme.ca/@EdwinG/116018084326165167

                                    Blame the Premiers, in particular some of which are working hard to achieve this exact result as a lead up to proposing privatization.
                                    #Canada #healthcare

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                                    @dmacphee Oh yeah, I'm blaming our Muppet Moe. Never fear.

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                                    • Chad :mstdn:C Chad :mstdn:

                                      @johnefrancis @northernlights @dmacphee @EdwinG the problem is that both the federal and provincial gov'ts have no appeal to accountability anymore.

                                      They got elected, and they've got four years to do whatever the hell they want. They don't respond to emails, phone calls, letters.

                                      The UCP and the NWC is a prime example.

                                      Eleanor Olszewski, parachute candidate for Edmonton-Centre has yet to respond to a single constituent email. Randy at least responded some of the time.

                                      They're all complicit.

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                                      @chad Hey Randy even came to my house for a meeting once.

                                      @johnefrancis @northernlights @dmacphee @EdwinG

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                                        @AlexanderVI @fsinn @northernlights @bweller @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG I completely agree.

                                        I predict that if this goes to referendum, the US admin saying the vote was compromised in some way or "stolen".

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                                        • Chad :mstdn:C Chad :mstdn:

                                          @AlexanderVI @fsinn @northernlights @bweller @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG I completely agree.

                                          I predict that if this goes to referendum, the US admin saying the vote was compromised in some way or "stolen".

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                                          @chad @AlexanderVI @fsinn @bweller @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG

                                          Agreed. It's Putin's playbook in the Donbas, copy-catted by Trump.

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