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Blame the Premiers, in particular some of which are working hard to achieve this exact result as a lead up to proposing privatization.

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  • Chad :mstdn:C Chad :mstdn:

    @northernlights @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG they can - and have - threatened to pull CHA funding for these exact reasons.

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    @chad @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG

    Who is 'they' and when did this happen?

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    • ItsDoctorNotMrs πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦N ItsDoctorNotMrs πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦

      @chad @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG

      Who is 'they' and when did this happen?

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      @northernlights @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG Pierre Trudeau era.

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      • Francisca SinnF Francisca Sinn

        @chad @northernlights @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG I remember BILLIONS of dollars in transfers to Ontario during COVID β€œheld” by Doug Ford and not used for patient care. β€œAllocated” they said, but they didn’t spent it on patients, and later went back to the feds wanting more money without restrictions.

        https://www.ipolitics.ca/2021/01/26/ontario-sitting-on-billions-of-unspent-covid-relief-cash-report/

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        @fsinn thats a strange system where they can just decide your money is their slush fund

        @chad @northernlights @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG

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        • Chad :mstdn:C Chad :mstdn:

          @northernlights @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG Pierre Trudeau era.

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          @chad @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG

          The Canada Health Act was created in 1984, which was right in the middle of the Trudeau Era.

          Was Alberta attempting to get more than its fair share when invited to join a national programme, and so, may have been threatened with exclusion?

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          • Chad :mstdn:C Chad :mstdn:

            @fsinn @northernlights @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG Kenney did the same thing in Alberta.

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            @chad @northernlights @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG Ugh.

            It’s just gross that so many people with absolutely zero interest in helping other people become politicians and get elected. Just consistently the worst kind of people in office literally leading to deaths of constituents. Ugh.

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            • BeccaB Becca

              @fsinn thats a strange system where they can just decide your money is their slush fund

              @chad @northernlights @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG

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              @bweller @chad @northernlights @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG And Smith with her newest attempt to β€œdirect” judges. Her words. Uuuggghh.

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              • BeccaB Becca

                @fsinn thats a strange system where they can just decide your money is their slush fund

                @chad @northernlights @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG

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                @bweller @fsinn @chad @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG

                That's exactly why Justin Trudeau's govt attempted to gain more transparency and the Conservative provincial govts refused, hard.

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                • Francisca SinnF Francisca Sinn

                  @bweller @chad @northernlights @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG And Smith with her newest attempt to β€œdirect” judges. Her words. Uuuggghh.

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                  @fsinn @bweller @chad @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG

                  She is such a Trump wannabe, it makes me sick. She really wants Alberta to be the 51st state.

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                  • ItsDoctorNotMrs πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦N ItsDoctorNotMrs πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦

                    @fsinn @bweller @chad @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG

                    She is such a Trump wannabe, it makes me sick. She really wants Alberta to be the 51st state.

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                    @northernlights @bweller @chad @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG Andrew Coyne had a great piece on this. She (they) can leave, but they can’t take the land that is β€œAlberta” with them. It wasn’t ever a separate territory or country, it was created by the federal government of Canada. And I think the Indigenous peoples of those lands have a few words for Smith.

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                    • Francisca SinnF Francisca Sinn

                      @northernlights @bweller @chad @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG Andrew Coyne had a great piece on this. She (they) can leave, but they can’t take the land that is β€œAlberta” with them. It wasn’t ever a separate territory or country, it was created by the federal government of Canada. And I think the Indigenous peoples of those lands have a few words for Smith.

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                      @fsinn @northernlights @bweller @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG I'm ashamed that we're looking to Indigenous communities to defend our place in Canada after everything we did to them.

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                      • Francisca SinnF Francisca Sinn

                        @northernlights @bweller @chad @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG Andrew Coyne had a great piece on this. She (they) can leave, but they can’t take the land that is β€œAlberta” with them. It wasn’t ever a separate territory or country, it was created by the federal government of Canada. And I think the Indigenous peoples of those lands have a few words for Smith.

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                        @fsinn @northernlights @bweller @chad @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG Some of which might even be printable!

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                        • ItsDoctorNotMrs πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦N ItsDoctorNotMrs πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦

                          @chad @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG

                          Who is 'they' and when did this happen?

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                          @northernlights @chad @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG

                          I just learned about the [Council of the Federation](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Council_of_the_Federation), about which I had never read before even when studying up for citizenship.

                          This is actually fascinating.

                          And the first thing it makes me think of is: Smoke & Mirrors. It doesn't get much more back room dealing than this. Even the #Wikipedia article is tagged for possible manipulation via primary sources.

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                          • Daniel MacPhee πŸ”¬πŸ§¬πŸ§«πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦D Daniel MacPhee πŸ”¬πŸ§¬πŸ§«πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦

                            RE: https://mstdn.moimeme.ca/@EdwinG/116018084326165167

                            Blame the Premiers, in particular some of which are working hard to achieve this exact result as a lead up to proposing privatization.
                            #Canada #healthcare

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                            @dmacphee Oh yeah, I'm blaming our Muppet Moe. Never fear.

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                            • Chad :mstdn:C Chad :mstdn:

                              @johnefrancis @northernlights @dmacphee @EdwinG the problem is that both the federal and provincial gov'ts have no appeal to accountability anymore.

                              They got elected, and they've got four years to do whatever the hell they want. They don't respond to emails, phone calls, letters.

                              The UCP and the NWC is a prime example.

                              Eleanor Olszewski, parachute candidate for Edmonton-Centre has yet to respond to a single constituent email. Randy at least responded some of the time.

                              They're all complicit.

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                              @chad Hey Randy even came to my house for a meeting once.

                              @johnefrancis @northernlights @dmacphee @EdwinG

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                                @AlexanderVI @fsinn @northernlights @bweller @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG I completely agree.

                                I predict that if this goes to referendum, the US admin saying the vote was compromised in some way or "stolen".

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                                • Chad :mstdn:C Chad :mstdn:

                                  @AlexanderVI @fsinn @northernlights @bweller @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG I completely agree.

                                  I predict that if this goes to referendum, the US admin saying the vote was compromised in some way or "stolen".

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                                  @chad @AlexanderVI @fsinn @bweller @johnefrancis @dmacphee @EdwinG

                                  Agreed. It's Putin's playbook in the Donbas, copy-catted by Trump.

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                                  • Daniel MacPhee πŸ”¬πŸ§¬πŸ§«πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦D Daniel MacPhee πŸ”¬πŸ§¬πŸ§«πŸ‡¨πŸ‡¦

                                    RE: https://mstdn.moimeme.ca/@EdwinG/116018084326165167

                                    Blame the Premiers, in particular some of which are working hard to achieve this exact result as a lead up to proposing privatization.
                                    #Canada #healthcare

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                                    @dmacphee I will say this now. If health care becomes privatized. Most Canadians will not be able to afford healthcare. Anytime a government agency or portfolio is privatized it ends up costing people through the nose. Look at utilities.

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