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  • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

    UPDATE: I am now seeing reports of Senators calling for the impeachment of Noem.

    Good. Fine. Do that. Yay. Put a head on a pike.

    My demand upthread doesn’t change. Having a different Trump appointee running ICE will not fix ICE. You can’t fix ICE. Scrap it. Abolish it. Shut it down. This deranged tyrant must not and cannot be allowed to have an unaccountable personal army.

    Still, I’m delighted that Senators are scrambling to do something. Keep up the pressure. Keep them all scared.

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    wrote last edited by
    #50

    @inthehands Having someone more responsible in charge of the secret police does not make it okay to have a secret police in the first place.
    And if ICE is not removed - if the secret police continues to exist - then the absolute best case result is this calms down now, and the same thing happens again later.

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    • Reid :blobcathappy:R Reid :blobcathappy:
      @inthehands Honestly the sad part is that you even need public pressure to defund the gestapo even after they started doing public executions. The Senators should just be acting on their own after shit like that.
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      #51

      @reiddragon
      Politicians never lead. The population leads; politicians follow. Sometimes it seems like maybe that’s not the case, but it is.

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      • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

        @reiddragon
        Politicians never lead. The population leads; politicians follow. Sometimes it seems like maybe that’s not the case, but it is.

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        #52
        @inthehands it's just that you'd think that at least in times like this it would be obvious enough what the people want that they don't even need to say it, though
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        • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

          UPDATE: I am now seeing reports of Senators calling for the impeachment of Noem.

          Good. Fine. Do that. Yay. Put a head on a pike.

          My demand upthread doesn’t change. Having a different Trump appointee running ICE will not fix ICE. You can’t fix ICE. Scrap it. Abolish it. Shut it down. This deranged tyrant must not and cannot be allowed to have an unaccountable personal army.

          Still, I’m delighted that Senators are scrambling to do something. Keep up the pressure. Keep them all scared.

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          wrote last edited by
          #53

          @inthehands
          Can the senate impeach, or does the house have to do it like with the president?

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          • Morgan ⚧️R Morgan ⚧️

            @amyshark @inthehands the situation we're in requires many avenues of resistance, and none of them are completely without value. Discouraging people from calling their senators doesn't inherently encourage them to do other things that might work a little better. Everyone is at a different stage of growth out of the capitalist hell we were raised in, and I imagine finding out that their call did nothing will give people better ideas more than giving up before they even try it will

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            wrote last edited by
            #54

            @raphaelmorgan @inthehands

            Exactly. Spread education. Spread ideas. Channel the energy people have into useful activities. Don’t give up - do things that can add value to the resistance. Maybe it’s something small like reposting something on social media, signing a petition, asking someone to lead a local event, going to a town hall. Maybe it’s brushing up your own knowledge or helping others learn. Craftivism. Protesting. Not using Amazon. ANYTHING is SOMETHING.

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            • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

              UPDATE: I am now seeing reports of Senators calling for the impeachment of Noem.

              Good. Fine. Do that. Yay. Put a head on a pike.

              My demand upthread doesn’t change. Having a different Trump appointee running ICE will not fix ICE. You can’t fix ICE. Scrap it. Abolish it. Shut it down. This deranged tyrant must not and cannot be allowed to have an unaccountable personal army.

              Still, I’m delighted that Senators are scrambling to do something. Keep up the pressure. Keep them all scared.

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              wrote last edited by
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              @inthehands yes!

              And same with ICE leaving Minnesota. Don’t just get them out of one state. Get them out of every state.

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              • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                My message to Senators:

                ❝The correct amount of funding for not just ICE but the •entire Department of Homeland Security• is zero. ZERO. You heard me: the entire agency. Under current leadership, it is off the rails. It is dangerous. It it a menace.

                “More training” is a pathetic non-answer; that just means more money. These murderers are trained; they are just monsters. Don’t say “better oversight.” Don’t say “more reforms.” Pull the rug. Switch it off. • Shut • it • down • NOW •

                If you have to shut down every airport in the country because the TSA budget is in there too, then you shut down every damned airport in the country. If you have to shut down the federal government again, you shut it down. Your inaction is sleepwalking the country into civil war. SHUT. IT. DOWN.❞

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                #56

                @inthehands How can these Senators sit back and watch US AID get defunded, and the FTC, and the FDA, and the CDC? Then, when people discuss defunding murderers, it’s not that easy?

                #uspol #fuckice

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                • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                  UPDATE: I am now seeing reports of Senators calling for the impeachment of Noem.

                  Good. Fine. Do that. Yay. Put a head on a pike.

                  My demand upthread doesn’t change. Having a different Trump appointee running ICE will not fix ICE. You can’t fix ICE. Scrap it. Abolish it. Shut it down. This deranged tyrant must not and cannot be allowed to have an unaccountable personal army.

                  Still, I’m delighted that Senators are scrambling to do something. Keep up the pressure. Keep them all scared.

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                  @inthehands

                  right. don't replace her. prosecute, disband the whole DHS/CBP/ICE, prosecute any of them that need it too.

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                  • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                    My message to Senators:

                    ❝The correct amount of funding for not just ICE but the •entire Department of Homeland Security• is zero. ZERO. You heard me: the entire agency. Under current leadership, it is off the rails. It is dangerous. It it a menace.

                    “More training” is a pathetic non-answer; that just means more money. These murderers are trained; they are just monsters. Don’t say “better oversight.” Don’t say “more reforms.” Pull the rug. Switch it off. • Shut • it • down • NOW •

                    If you have to shut down every airport in the country because the TSA budget is in there too, then you shut down every damned airport in the country. If you have to shut down the federal government again, you shut it down. Your inaction is sleepwalking the country into civil war. SHUT. IT. DOWN.❞

                    2/

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                    #58

                    @inthehands
                    Department of Fatherland Security
                    AKA
                    Council of Ministers for the Defense of the Reich

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                    • Nicole ParsonsN Nicole Parsons

                      @amyshark @samiamsam @inthehands

                      Republican billionaires funded a multi-front war on democracy.

                      Courts. Congress. Disinformation. Sabotaging education. Book bans. Defunding higher education. Decades of Fox News blasting away into the minds of soldiers on military bases.

                      An equally broad response is required to counteract it.

                      A counterinsurgency needs guerilla tactics beyond simply voting.

                      Get creative. A big one is collecting evidence for war crimes trials. DNA. Payroll records. ID'S.

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                      @Npars01 @amyshark @samiamsam @inthehands Look at the tactics of fascists butthurt about masks. Most of those didn’t own the trucks they used to block roads and bridges. Look at the guys who occupied the Malheur facility. They were openly armed, but only one was shot and he had to repeatedly threaten to draw down on FBI before finally getting shot. I know the threshold will be nowhere near that high, but we need to start playing their game.

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                      • Stephen Bannasch (316 ppm)S Stephen Bannasch (316 ppm)

                        @EndicottAuthor

                        Yes. And …??

                        @inthehands

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                        @stepheneb @inthehands And it's a campaign of retribution. MN didn't vote for DJT 3 times. Now he's taking out his revenge on them.

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                        • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                          UPDATE: I am now seeing reports of Senators calling for the impeachment of Noem.

                          Good. Fine. Do that. Yay. Put a head on a pike.

                          My demand upthread doesn’t change. Having a different Trump appointee running ICE will not fix ICE. You can’t fix ICE. Scrap it. Abolish it. Shut it down. This deranged tyrant must not and cannot be allowed to have an unaccountable personal army.

                          Still, I’m delighted that Senators are scrambling to do something. Keep up the pressure. Keep them all scared.

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                          libramoon
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                          @inthehands

                          What every US citizen can simply do NOW

                          we #US citizens need to immediately demand
                          our #Congress impeach and convict Trump asap,
                          or be #primaried by those who will
                          write/phone/email/scream outside their offices

                          find those candidates https://www.citizensimpeachment.com/
                          https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative

                          Let's do #Democracy
                          Spread the word

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                          • su_liamS su_liam

                            @Npars01 @amyshark @samiamsam @inthehands Look at the tactics of fascists butthurt about masks. Most of those didn’t own the trucks they used to block roads and bridges. Look at the guys who occupied the Malheur facility. They were openly armed, but only one was shot and he had to repeatedly threaten to draw down on FBI before finally getting shot. I know the threshold will be nowhere near that high, but we need to start playing their game.

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                            Nicole Parsons
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                            @su_liam @amyshark @samiamsam @inthehands

                            There is no "game".

                            It's a state terror campaign.

                            Terror campaigns too easily evolve into decades long factional violence.

                            Tit-for-tat retaliation like Ireland's "The Troubles" or the Gaza Genocide.

                            They often lead to collaped states run by warlords like Lebanon.

                            Not recommended. The USA is still retrievable if the overly simplistic "solutions" like civil war or factional political violence is avoided.

                            Suggest cutting off the MAGA money 1st

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                            • Nicole ParsonsN Nicole Parsons

                              @su_liam @amyshark @samiamsam @inthehands

                              There is no "game".

                              It's a state terror campaign.

                              Terror campaigns too easily evolve into decades long factional violence.

                              Tit-for-tat retaliation like Ireland's "The Troubles" or the Gaza Genocide.

                              They often lead to collaped states run by warlords like Lebanon.

                              Not recommended. The USA is still retrievable if the overly simplistic "solutions" like civil war or factional political violence is avoided.

                              Suggest cutting off the MAGA money 1st

                              1/

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                              2/

                              Cutting off the MAGA money.

                              1. Find a supply of Rose Volland's to track it
                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_Valland

                              2. Gather evidence on the complicit
                              https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5705828-walz-bondi-immigration-dispute/

                              https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2026/01/23/rogan-suggests-trumps-using-ice-raids-to-distract-from-epstein-files/

                              3. A global effort to track & eliminate tax evasion
                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LuxLeaks

                              https://www.icij.org/investigations/paradise-papers/

                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora_Papers

                              4. Gather evidence of the lies
                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_Papers

                              5. Get depositions & witness testimony right after each murder. Spread the word.

                              6. Get evidence
                              https://www.britannica.com/topic/IG-Farben

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                              • Nicole ParsonsN Nicole Parsons

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                                Cutting off the MAGA money.

                                1. Find a supply of Rose Volland's to track it
                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_Valland

                                2. Gather evidence on the complicit
                                https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5705828-walz-bondi-immigration-dispute/

                                https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2026/01/23/rogan-suggests-trumps-using-ice-raids-to-distract-from-epstein-files/

                                3. A global effort to track & eliminate tax evasion
                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LuxLeaks

                                https://www.icij.org/investigations/paradise-papers/

                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora_Papers

                                4. Gather evidence of the lies
                                https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_Papers

                                5. Get depositions & witness testimony right after each murder. Spread the word.

                                6. Get evidence
                                https://www.britannica.com/topic/IG-Farben

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                                3/

                                7. Accelerate the switch to renewable energy. MAGA is funded by fossil fuel cash.

                                https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/05/texas-fracking-billionaire-brothers-prageru-daily-wire

                                https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/tim-dunn-texas-oil-billionaire-trump-donor-1235033143/

                                https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/20/us/politics/koch-network-2024-election-trump.html

                                https://www.desmog.com/2024/12/16/6-fracking-billionaires-and-climate-denial-groups-behind-trumps-cabinet/

                                8. Sanction The Moneyed dynasties behind MAGA & Project 2025

                                https://www.desmog.com/2016/01/21/beyond-koch-brothers-scaife-olin-bradley-jane-mayer-dark-money/

                                https://www.desmog.com/2024/10/25/project-2025-trump-mapped-how-6-billionaire-family-fortunes-fund-climate-denial/

                                9. Bankrupt the AI tech bros. Fast.

                                https://www.theatlantic.com/podcasts/archive/2025/09/ai-and-the-fight-between-democracy-and-autocracy/684095/

                                https://www.404media.co/ai-is-supercharging-the-war-on-libraries-education-and-human-knowledge/

                                https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jul/11/elon-musk-ai-grok-nazi-meltdown

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                                • Sex Crazed SaltShaker of DeathD Sex Crazed SaltShaker of Death

                                  @inthehands
                                  Can the senate impeach, or does the house have to do it like with the president?

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                                  @dsmdexter @inthehands

                                  The House starts impeachments. The Senate finishes them.

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                                  • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                                    My message to Senators:

                                    ❝The correct amount of funding for not just ICE but the •entire Department of Homeland Security• is zero. ZERO. You heard me: the entire agency. Under current leadership, it is off the rails. It is dangerous. It it a menace.

                                    “More training” is a pathetic non-answer; that just means more money. These murderers are trained; they are just monsters. Don’t say “better oversight.” Don’t say “more reforms.” Pull the rug. Switch it off. • Shut • it • down • NOW •

                                    If you have to shut down every airport in the country because the TSA budget is in there too, then you shut down every damned airport in the country. If you have to shut down the federal government again, you shut it down. Your inaction is sleepwalking the country into civil war. SHUT. IT. DOWN.❞

                                    2/

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                                    @inthehands

                                    I remember thinking, when it was established, that it’s only oppressive authoritarian countries that find a use for a Department of Homeland Security.

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                                    • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                                      UPDATE: I am now seeing reports of Senators calling for the impeachment of Noem.

                                      Good. Fine. Do that. Yay. Put a head on a pike.

                                      My demand upthread doesn’t change. Having a different Trump appointee running ICE will not fix ICE. You can’t fix ICE. Scrap it. Abolish it. Shut it down. This deranged tyrant must not and cannot be allowed to have an unaccountable personal army.

                                      Still, I’m delighted that Senators are scrambling to do something. Keep up the pressure. Keep them all scared.

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                                      wrote last edited by
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                                      @inthehands

                                      I want ICE disbanded immediately and payroll rescinded. These are folks who joined the Nazis with both eyes open. They should not be paid for their part in joining an operation for murdering citizens. They don't get that $50k. They don't get whatever they were set to. If the Trump administration can cancel payroll for however many people at the say of DOGE, this should be juuust fine.

                                      I really want them locked up in freezing concrete bunkers with no toiletries, clothes or food for weeks, but our system still believes in humane treatment for mass murderers.

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                                      • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                                        UPDATE: I am now seeing reports of Senators calling for the impeachment of Noem.

                                        Good. Fine. Do that. Yay. Put a head on a pike.

                                        My demand upthread doesn’t change. Having a different Trump appointee running ICE will not fix ICE. You can’t fix ICE. Scrap it. Abolish it. Shut it down. This deranged tyrant must not and cannot be allowed to have an unaccountable personal army.

                                        Still, I’m delighted that Senators are scrambling to do something. Keep up the pressure. Keep them all scared.

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                                        wrote last edited by
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                                        @inthehands

                                        A little problem we face this year is that many of those Dem politicians are not scared of you because they have the whole thing stitched up.

                                        I don't mean electoral fraud; just run of the mill political kettling where you have to choose between full-on evil and demure evil. No other choices, welcome to democracy!

                                        I don't have a solution to this problem, but the problem is as much the Democratic party as it is MAGA, as these "centrists" incomprehensible position illustrates.

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                                        • JohnJ John

                                          @inthehands

                                          A little problem we face this year is that many of those Dem politicians are not scared of you because they have the whole thing stitched up.

                                          I don't mean electoral fraud; just run of the mill political kettling where you have to choose between full-on evil and demure evil. No other choices, welcome to democracy!

                                          I don't have a solution to this problem, but the problem is as much the Democratic party as it is MAGA, as these "centrists" incomprehensible position illustrates.

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                                          @johnzajac @inthehands there _is_ a solution to this - it's not a perfect one or even an easy one... but culturally, one of the things I have always liked about the Democratic Party is that democrats are cheerfully willing to bare knuckle fight other democrats when they disagree.

                                          The party has tried to tamp down on this tendency since the Clinton years, but it never goes away. The trick is, though... (sorry, I'm getting long winded, I'm going to need another one of these...)

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