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  • Morgan ⚧️R Morgan ⚧️

    @amyshark @inthehands the situation we're in requires many avenues of resistance, and none of them are completely without value. Discouraging people from calling their senators doesn't inherently encourage them to do other things that might work a little better. Everyone is at a different stage of growth out of the capitalist hell we were raised in, and I imagine finding out that their call did nothing will give people better ideas more than giving up before they even try it will

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    #54

    @raphaelmorgan @inthehands

    Exactly. Spread education. Spread ideas. Channel the energy people have into useful activities. Don’t give up - do things that can add value to the resistance. Maybe it’s something small like reposting something on social media, signing a petition, asking someone to lead a local event, going to a town hall. Maybe it’s brushing up your own knowledge or helping others learn. Craftivism. Protesting. Not using Amazon. ANYTHING is SOMETHING.

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    • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

      UPDATE: I am now seeing reports of Senators calling for the impeachment of Noem.

      Good. Fine. Do that. Yay. Put a head on a pike.

      My demand upthread doesn’t change. Having a different Trump appointee running ICE will not fix ICE. You can’t fix ICE. Scrap it. Abolish it. Shut it down. This deranged tyrant must not and cannot be allowed to have an unaccountable personal army.

      Still, I’m delighted that Senators are scrambling to do something. Keep up the pressure. Keep them all scared.

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      Hank BP
      wrote last edited by
      #55

      @inthehands yes!

      And same with ICE leaving Minnesota. Don’t just get them out of one state. Get them out of every state.

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      • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

        My message to Senators:

        ❝The correct amount of funding for not just ICE but the •entire Department of Homeland Security• is zero. ZERO. You heard me: the entire agency. Under current leadership, it is off the rails. It is dangerous. It it a menace.

        “More training” is a pathetic non-answer; that just means more money. These murderers are trained; they are just monsters. Don’t say “better oversight.” Don’t say “more reforms.” Pull the rug. Switch it off. • Shut • it • down • NOW •

        If you have to shut down every airport in the country because the TSA budget is in there too, then you shut down every damned airport in the country. If you have to shut down the federal government again, you shut it down. Your inaction is sleepwalking the country into civil war. SHUT. IT. DOWN.❞

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        wrote last edited by
        #56

        @inthehands How can these Senators sit back and watch US AID get defunded, and the FTC, and the FDA, and the CDC? Then, when people discuss defunding murderers, it’s not that easy?

        #uspol #fuckice

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        • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

          UPDATE: I am now seeing reports of Senators calling for the impeachment of Noem.

          Good. Fine. Do that. Yay. Put a head on a pike.

          My demand upthread doesn’t change. Having a different Trump appointee running ICE will not fix ICE. You can’t fix ICE. Scrap it. Abolish it. Shut it down. This deranged tyrant must not and cannot be allowed to have an unaccountable personal army.

          Still, I’m delighted that Senators are scrambling to do something. Keep up the pressure. Keep them all scared.

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          Paul_IPv6
          wrote last edited by
          #57

          @inthehands

          right. don't replace her. prosecute, disband the whole DHS/CBP/ICE, prosecute any of them that need it too.

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          • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

            My message to Senators:

            ❝The correct amount of funding for not just ICE but the •entire Department of Homeland Security• is zero. ZERO. You heard me: the entire agency. Under current leadership, it is off the rails. It is dangerous. It it a menace.

            “More training” is a pathetic non-answer; that just means more money. These murderers are trained; they are just monsters. Don’t say “better oversight.” Don’t say “more reforms.” Pull the rug. Switch it off. • Shut • it • down • NOW •

            If you have to shut down every airport in the country because the TSA budget is in there too, then you shut down every damned airport in the country. If you have to shut down the federal government again, you shut it down. Your inaction is sleepwalking the country into civil war. SHUT. IT. DOWN.❞

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            Asbestos
            wrote last edited by
            #58

            @inthehands
            Department of Fatherland Security
            AKA
            Council of Ministers for the Defense of the Reich

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            • Nicole ParsonsN Nicole Parsons

              @amyshark @samiamsam @inthehands

              Republican billionaires funded a multi-front war on democracy.

              Courts. Congress. Disinformation. Sabotaging education. Book bans. Defunding higher education. Decades of Fox News blasting away into the minds of soldiers on military bases.

              An equally broad response is required to counteract it.

              A counterinsurgency needs guerilla tactics beyond simply voting.

              Get creative. A big one is collecting evidence for war crimes trials. DNA. Payroll records. ID'S.

              su_liamS This user is from outside of this forum
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              su_liam
              wrote last edited by
              #59

              @Npars01 @amyshark @samiamsam @inthehands Look at the tactics of fascists butthurt about masks. Most of those didn’t own the trucks they used to block roads and bridges. Look at the guys who occupied the Malheur facility. They were openly armed, but only one was shot and he had to repeatedly threaten to draw down on FBI before finally getting shot. I know the threshold will be nowhere near that high, but we need to start playing their game.

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              • Stephen Bannasch (316 ppm)S Stephen Bannasch (316 ppm)

                @EndicottAuthor

                Yes. And …??

                @inthehands

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                #60

                @stepheneb @inthehands And it's a campaign of retribution. MN didn't vote for DJT 3 times. Now he's taking out his revenge on them.

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                • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                  UPDATE: I am now seeing reports of Senators calling for the impeachment of Noem.

                  Good. Fine. Do that. Yay. Put a head on a pike.

                  My demand upthread doesn’t change. Having a different Trump appointee running ICE will not fix ICE. You can’t fix ICE. Scrap it. Abolish it. Shut it down. This deranged tyrant must not and cannot be allowed to have an unaccountable personal army.

                  Still, I’m delighted that Senators are scrambling to do something. Keep up the pressure. Keep them all scared.

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                  wrote last edited by
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                  @inthehands

                  What every US citizen can simply do NOW

                  we #US citizens need to immediately demand
                  our #Congress impeach and convict Trump asap,
                  or be #primaried by those who will
                  write/phone/email/scream outside their offices

                  find those candidates https://www.citizensimpeachment.com/
                  https://www.house.gov/representatives/find-your-representative

                  Let's do #Democracy
                  Spread the word

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                  • su_liamS su_liam

                    @Npars01 @amyshark @samiamsam @inthehands Look at the tactics of fascists butthurt about masks. Most of those didn’t own the trucks they used to block roads and bridges. Look at the guys who occupied the Malheur facility. They were openly armed, but only one was shot and he had to repeatedly threaten to draw down on FBI before finally getting shot. I know the threshold will be nowhere near that high, but we need to start playing their game.

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                    wrote last edited by
                    #62

                    @su_liam @amyshark @samiamsam @inthehands

                    There is no "game".

                    It's a state terror campaign.

                    Terror campaigns too easily evolve into decades long factional violence.

                    Tit-for-tat retaliation like Ireland's "The Troubles" or the Gaza Genocide.

                    They often lead to collaped states run by warlords like Lebanon.

                    Not recommended. The USA is still retrievable if the overly simplistic "solutions" like civil war or factional political violence is avoided.

                    Suggest cutting off the MAGA money 1st

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                    • Nicole ParsonsN Nicole Parsons

                      @su_liam @amyshark @samiamsam @inthehands

                      There is no "game".

                      It's a state terror campaign.

                      Terror campaigns too easily evolve into decades long factional violence.

                      Tit-for-tat retaliation like Ireland's "The Troubles" or the Gaza Genocide.

                      They often lead to collaped states run by warlords like Lebanon.

                      Not recommended. The USA is still retrievable if the overly simplistic "solutions" like civil war or factional political violence is avoided.

                      Suggest cutting off the MAGA money 1st

                      1/

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                      #63

                      2/

                      Cutting off the MAGA money.

                      1. Find a supply of Rose Volland's to track it
                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_Valland

                      2. Gather evidence on the complicit
                      https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5705828-walz-bondi-immigration-dispute/

                      https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2026/01/23/rogan-suggests-trumps-using-ice-raids-to-distract-from-epstein-files/

                      3. A global effort to track & eliminate tax evasion
                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LuxLeaks

                      https://www.icij.org/investigations/paradise-papers/

                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora_Papers

                      4. Gather evidence of the lies
                      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_Papers

                      5. Get depositions & witness testimony right after each murder. Spread the word.

                      6. Get evidence
                      https://www.britannica.com/topic/IG-Farben

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                      • Nicole ParsonsN Nicole Parsons

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                        Cutting off the MAGA money.

                        1. Find a supply of Rose Volland's to track it
                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rose_Valland

                        2. Gather evidence on the complicit
                        https://thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/5705828-walz-bondi-immigration-dispute/

                        https://www.forbes.com/sites/conormurray/2026/01/23/rogan-suggests-trumps-using-ice-raids-to-distract-from-epstein-files/

                        3. A global effort to track & eliminate tax evasion
                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LuxLeaks

                        https://www.icij.org/investigations/paradise-papers/

                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pandora_Papers

                        4. Gather evidence of the lies
                        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pentagon_Papers

                        5. Get depositions & witness testimony right after each murder. Spread the word.

                        6. Get evidence
                        https://www.britannica.com/topic/IG-Farben

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                        7. Accelerate the switch to renewable energy. MAGA is funded by fossil fuel cash.

                        https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/05/texas-fracking-billionaire-brothers-prageru-daily-wire

                        https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/tim-dunn-texas-oil-billionaire-trump-donor-1235033143/

                        https://www.nytimes.com/2025/12/20/us/politics/koch-network-2024-election-trump.html

                        https://www.desmog.com/2024/12/16/6-fracking-billionaires-and-climate-denial-groups-behind-trumps-cabinet/

                        8. Sanction The Moneyed dynasties behind MAGA & Project 2025

                        https://www.desmog.com/2016/01/21/beyond-koch-brothers-scaife-olin-bradley-jane-mayer-dark-money/

                        https://www.desmog.com/2024/10/25/project-2025-trump-mapped-how-6-billionaire-family-fortunes-fund-climate-denial/

                        9. Bankrupt the AI tech bros. Fast.

                        https://www.theatlantic.com/podcasts/archive/2025/09/ai-and-the-fight-between-democracy-and-autocracy/684095/

                        https://www.404media.co/ai-is-supercharging-the-war-on-libraries-education-and-human-knowledge/

                        https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/jul/11/elon-musk-ai-grok-nazi-meltdown

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                        • Sex Crazed SaltShaker of DeathD Sex Crazed SaltShaker of Death

                          @inthehands
                          Can the senate impeach, or does the house have to do it like with the president?

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                          @dsmdexter @inthehands

                          The House starts impeachments. The Senate finishes them.

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                          • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                            My message to Senators:

                            ❝The correct amount of funding for not just ICE but the •entire Department of Homeland Security• is zero. ZERO. You heard me: the entire agency. Under current leadership, it is off the rails. It is dangerous. It it a menace.

                            “More training” is a pathetic non-answer; that just means more money. These murderers are trained; they are just monsters. Don’t say “better oversight.” Don’t say “more reforms.” Pull the rug. Switch it off. • Shut • it • down • NOW •

                            If you have to shut down every airport in the country because the TSA budget is in there too, then you shut down every damned airport in the country. If you have to shut down the federal government again, you shut it down. Your inaction is sleepwalking the country into civil war. SHUT. IT. DOWN.❞

                            2/

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                            @inthehands

                            I remember thinking, when it was established, that it’s only oppressive authoritarian countries that find a use for a Department of Homeland Security.

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                            • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                              UPDATE: I am now seeing reports of Senators calling for the impeachment of Noem.

                              Good. Fine. Do that. Yay. Put a head on a pike.

                              My demand upthread doesn’t change. Having a different Trump appointee running ICE will not fix ICE. You can’t fix ICE. Scrap it. Abolish it. Shut it down. This deranged tyrant must not and cannot be allowed to have an unaccountable personal army.

                              Still, I’m delighted that Senators are scrambling to do something. Keep up the pressure. Keep them all scared.

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                              wrote last edited by
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                              @inthehands

                              I want ICE disbanded immediately and payroll rescinded. These are folks who joined the Nazis with both eyes open. They should not be paid for their part in joining an operation for murdering citizens. They don't get that $50k. They don't get whatever they were set to. If the Trump administration can cancel payroll for however many people at the say of DOGE, this should be juuust fine.

                              I really want them locked up in freezing concrete bunkers with no toiletries, clothes or food for weeks, but our system still believes in humane treatment for mass murderers.

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                              • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                                UPDATE: I am now seeing reports of Senators calling for the impeachment of Noem.

                                Good. Fine. Do that. Yay. Put a head on a pike.

                                My demand upthread doesn’t change. Having a different Trump appointee running ICE will not fix ICE. You can’t fix ICE. Scrap it. Abolish it. Shut it down. This deranged tyrant must not and cannot be allowed to have an unaccountable personal army.

                                Still, I’m delighted that Senators are scrambling to do something. Keep up the pressure. Keep them all scared.

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                                wrote last edited by
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                                @inthehands

                                A little problem we face this year is that many of those Dem politicians are not scared of you because they have the whole thing stitched up.

                                I don't mean electoral fraud; just run of the mill political kettling where you have to choose between full-on evil and demure evil. No other choices, welcome to democracy!

                                I don't have a solution to this problem, but the problem is as much the Democratic party as it is MAGA, as these "centrists" incomprehensible position illustrates.

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                                • JohnJ John

                                  @inthehands

                                  A little problem we face this year is that many of those Dem politicians are not scared of you because they have the whole thing stitched up.

                                  I don't mean electoral fraud; just run of the mill political kettling where you have to choose between full-on evil and demure evil. No other choices, welcome to democracy!

                                  I don't have a solution to this problem, but the problem is as much the Democratic party as it is MAGA, as these "centrists" incomprehensible position illustrates.

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                                  @johnzajac @inthehands there _is_ a solution to this - it's not a perfect one or even an easy one... but culturally, one of the things I have always liked about the Democratic Party is that democrats are cheerfully willing to bare knuckle fight other democrats when they disagree.

                                  The party has tried to tamp down on this tendency since the Clinton years, but it never goes away. The trick is, though... (sorry, I'm getting long winded, I'm going to need another one of these...)

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                                  • CB WrightU CB Wright

                                    @johnzajac @inthehands there _is_ a solution to this - it's not a perfect one or even an easy one... but culturally, one of the things I have always liked about the Democratic Party is that democrats are cheerfully willing to bare knuckle fight other democrats when they disagree.

                                    The party has tried to tamp down on this tendency since the Clinton years, but it never goes away. The trick is, though... (sorry, I'm getting long winded, I'm going to need another one of these...)

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                                    @johnzajac @inthehands ...that the candidates you send in to battle the old guard have a tendency to get diluted. That's sadly very hard to avoid, when the new blood is trying to figure out how to navigate the machinery, but it can be countered by sending even more democrats even further from the old guard immediately after.

                                    It's part of what the Republicans did, only they moved in the other direction.

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                                    • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                                      UPDATE: I am now seeing reports of Senators calling for the impeachment of Noem.

                                      Good. Fine. Do that. Yay. Put a head on a pike.

                                      My demand upthread doesn’t change. Having a different Trump appointee running ICE will not fix ICE. You can’t fix ICE. Scrap it. Abolish it. Shut it down. This deranged tyrant must not and cannot be allowed to have an unaccountable personal army.

                                      Still, I’m delighted that Senators are scrambling to do something. Keep up the pressure. Keep them all scared.

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                                      tessarakt
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                                      @inthehands On Day 1, Biden should have written a memo "I have determined that Donald Trump is an alien enemy aligned with Russia.", forced his plane to land while still on route to Mar-a-Lago, and taken him and sent him over to Guantanamo ...

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                                      • Chip ButtyO Chip Butty

                                        @trochee @inthehands @garbados just read the story and it is still the moderate position

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                                        @otfrom @inthehands @garbados Yep, we only mulch SOME of the ICE/Miller/Bannon types, and let the oligarchs capture & torture each other

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                                        • Paul CantrellI Paul Cantrell

                                          And to be clear, zeroing out the budget, scrapping the DHS, returning its law enforcement duties to local agencies, and prosecuting ICE officers — all of that! — is the •moderate• position here.

                                          The extremist position is violence of a kind and scale I shudder to contemplate.

                                          Pressure them. Rattle them out of their stupor.

                                          /end

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                                          @inthehands You shouldn't be doing "law enforcement", you should be doing just regular policing instead. Laws being violated is just one kind of risk to public order and security, and it needs to be balanced against other ones.

                                          And I'm appalled that this term has made its way even into EU law, probably through bureaucrats with an insufficient knowledge of English.

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