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I was about to Have Opinions about the threats the US is making to Greenland, Denmark and Europe, then realised I have nothing useful to add, so I pressed Delete.

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  • Jim DalyP This user is from outside of this forum
    Jim DalyP This user is from outside of this forum
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    @CiaraNi 😁

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    • Tor LillqvistT This user is from outside of this forum
      Tor LillqvistT This user is from outside of this forum
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      @CiaraNi @hanscees Sorry for being boring, but just felt like writing this: (And you probably know this already, but others might not.)

      Personally I use the term "umlaut" only to describe the phenomenon in German and Swedish (and possibly other Germanic languages) where the spelling of a word changes when it is inflected in plural so that to an "a" or "o" the two dots are added. Like "Apfel" (apple) (singular) -> "Äpfel" (apples) (plural), or in Swedish "man" (man) -> "mĂ€n" (men).

      But not all instances of À or ö in German or Swedish are umlauts. For instance "KÀse" (cheese) in German or kÀrna (kernel) in Swedish are not plural, and are not some other inflection either of a corresponding word without the dots. There is no corresponding word "Kase" or "karna".

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      • SiobhĂĄn Greaney (Shivers)S This user is from outside of this forum
        SiobhĂĄn Greaney (Shivers)S This user is from outside of this forum
        SiobhĂĄn Greaney (Shivers)
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        #15

        @CiaraNi @psneeze Went down a fun path - cause fada means 'long' and it elongates the vowels... got curious and now know umlaut apparently word roots are 'about sound'

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        • CiaraC Ciara

          It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

          Jordan BiserkovJ This user is from outside of this forum
          Jordan BiserkovJ This user is from outside of this forum
          Jordan Biserkov
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          #16

          @CiaraNi
          well, there's this: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C3%BCmlaut

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          • CiaraC Ciara

            It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

            JohnB This user is from outside of this forum
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            John
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            @CiaraNi nor is there an apostrophe in the word apostrophe, nor . . . [you get the idea]

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            • CiaraC Ciara

              It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

              Log đŸȘ”L This user is from outside of this forum
              Log đŸȘ”L This user is from outside of this forum
              Log đŸȘ”
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              #18

              @CiaraNi Could manage one on a diëresis.

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              • CiaraC This user is from outside of this forum
                CiaraC This user is from outside of this forum
                Ciara
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                @czottmann Haha, danke very much, that's a pleasing collection of letters

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                • SiobhĂĄn Greaney (Shivers)S SiobhĂĄn Greaney (Shivers)

                  @CiaraNi @psneeze Went down a fun path - cause fada means 'long' and it elongates the vowels... got curious and now know umlaut apparently word roots are 'about sound'

                  Jim DalyP This user is from outside of this forum
                  Jim DalyP This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @shivers @CiaraNi 😼 I never knew that.

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                  • WillW Will

                    @CiaraNi
                    And the word 'stĂžd' isn't pronounced with a stĂžd in it. What's with that?!

                    CiaraC This user is from outside of this forum
                    CiaraC This user is from outside of this forum
                    Ciara
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                    @wannabemystiker I know, right? When Mette Frederiksen is finished with Trump, we'll ask her to get on to fixing this next.

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                    • CiaraC This user is from outside of this forum
                      CiaraC This user is from outside of this forum
                      Ciara
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                      @tanghus @wannabemystiker That's a very interesting article. Thanks for sharing it. I've bookmarked for a deeper read later.

                      This pleased me to read:

                      "Men det er ikke danskerne syd for stþdgrénsen der udtaler ordene underligt. Faktisk er det underligt at danskerne nord for stþdgrénsen overhovedet begyndte at ’stþde’.

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                      • JohnB John

                        @CiaraNi nor is there an apostrophe in the word apostrophe, nor . . . [you get the idea]

                        CiaraC This user is from outside of this forum
                        CiaraC This user is from outside of this forum
                        Ciara
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                        @BooksandJohn We should really do something about that

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                        • CiaraC Ciara

                          It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

                          Tim JT This user is from outside of this forum
                          Tim JT This user is from outside of this forum
                          Tim J
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                          @CiaraNi Maybe you could say in a Northern Irish accent and call it an an umlaĂŒt? That's the only way I can see to put one in without mangling the sound of the word.

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                          • CiaraC This user is from outside of this forum
                            CiaraC This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @tanghus @hanscees Ha - it does actually have a kind of sexy aura in AnaĂŻs. I waver between thinking the New Yorker is being pretentious and thinking the New Yorker is keeping good linguistic traditions alive, depending on how good a lunch I had on the given day I'm thinking about it.

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                            • Log đŸȘ”L Log đŸȘ”

                              @CiaraNi Could manage one on a diëresis.

                              CiaraC This user is from outside of this forum
                              CiaraC This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @log That'd do

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                              • Tim JT Tim J

                                @CiaraNi Maybe you could say in a Northern Irish accent and call it an an umlaĂŒt? That's the only way I can see to put one in without mangling the sound of the word.

                                CiaraC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                Ciara
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                                @timtfj Ah sure let's put at least two of them in there while we're at it. There are three vowels, so that'd still be quite restrained.

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                                • CiaraC Ciara

                                  @tanghus @hanscees Ha - it does actually have a kind of sexy aura in AnaĂŻs. I waver between thinking the New Yorker is being pretentious and thinking the New Yorker is keeping good linguistic traditions alive, depending on how good a lunch I had on the given day I'm thinking about it.

                                  Thomas TanghusT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  Thomas Tanghus
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                                  @CiaraNi @hanscees 😄

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                                  • CiaraC Ciara

                                    It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

                                    brackenB This user is from outside of this forum
                                    brackenB This user is from outside of this forum
                                    bracken
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                                    @CiaraNi maybe it's like how you're not suppose to use a word as part of the definition for that word.

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                                    • brackenB bracken

                                      @CiaraNi maybe it's like how you're not suppose to use a word as part of the definition for that word.

                                      CiaraC This user is from outside of this forum
                                      CiaraC This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Ciara
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                                      @bracken I had to think about that for a second. I think you're right.

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                                      • CiaraC Ciara

                                        @walfischbucht I mean, there really should be

                                        Head·word /ˈhedˌwɜː(Éč)d/ n.H This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Head·word /ˈhedˌwɜː(Éč)d/ n.H This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Head·word /ˈhedˌwɜː(Éč)d/ n.
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                                        @CiaraNi @walfischbucht It seems Estonian has got it right with their word ‘tĂ€pid’ for ‘umlaut’. And Finnish has a word â€˜Ă€Ă€könen’ meaning ‘any Finnish letter with an umlaut’, and it's really just the word for letter (‘aakonen’) with umlauts sprinkled on it.

                                        (according to Wiktionary: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/umlaut#English, https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C3%A4%C3%A4kk%C3%B6nen#Finnish)

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                                        • Head·word /ˈhedˌwɜː(Éč)d/ n.H Head·word /ˈhedˌwɜː(Éč)d/ n.

                                          @CiaraNi @walfischbucht It seems Estonian has got it right with their word ‘tĂ€pid’ for ‘umlaut’. And Finnish has a word â€˜Ă€Ă€könen’ meaning ‘any Finnish letter with an umlaut’, and it's really just the word for letter (‘aakonen’) with umlauts sprinkled on it.

                                          (according to Wiktionary: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/umlaut#English, https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C3%A4%C3%A4kk%C3%B6nen#Finnish)

                                          CiaraC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          Ciara
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                                          @headword @walfischbucht 'TĂ€pid’ - that's more like it. I'm going to need Germans to speak Estonian from now on, so, please.

                                          Also, thanks for this information. Very pleasing to learn.

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