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  3. I was about to Have Opinions about the threats the US is making to Greenland, Denmark and Europe, then realised I have nothing useful to add, so I pressed Delete.

I was about to Have Opinions about the threats the US is making to Greenland, Denmark and Europe, then realised I have nothing useful to add, so I pressed Delete.

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  • walfischbuchtW walfischbucht

    @CiaraNi
    Hm. I guess you have a point there. 😉

    CiaraC This user is from outside of this forum
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    Ciara
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    @walfischbucht I mean, there really should be

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    • CiaraC Ciara

      It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

      Tor LillqvistT This user is from outside of this forum
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      @CiaraNi You will be pleased to hear about the Finnish word ääkkönen (usually used in the plural, ääkköset). Apparently nowadays accepted as an actual word, even if originally invented as a pun.

      https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ääkkönen

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      • CiaraC Ciara

        It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

        WillW This user is from outside of this forum
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        Will
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        #10

        @CiaraNi
        And the word 'stød' isn't pronounced with a stød in it. What's with that?!

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        • ThtbT This user is from outside of this forum
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          Respect for choosing typographical order over digital noise 🙂
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          • CiaraC Ciara

            It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

            Jim DalyP This user is from outside of this forum
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            @CiaraNi The word 'fada' has entered the chat.

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            • Jim DalyP This user is from outside of this forum
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              @CiaraNi 😁

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              • Tor LillqvistT This user is from outside of this forum
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                @CiaraNi @hanscees Sorry for being boring, but just felt like writing this: (And you probably know this already, but others might not.)

                Personally I use the term "umlaut" only to describe the phenomenon in German and Swedish (and possibly other Germanic languages) where the spelling of a word changes when it is inflected in plural so that to an "a" or "o" the two dots are added. Like "Apfel" (apple) (singular) -> "Äpfel" (apples) (plural), or in Swedish "man" (man) -> "män" (men).

                But not all instances of ä or ö in German or Swedish are umlauts. For instance "Käse" (cheese) in German or kärna (kernel) in Swedish are not plural, and are not some other inflection either of a corresponding word without the dots. There is no corresponding word "Kase" or "karna".

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                • Siobhán Greaney (Shivers)S This user is from outside of this forum
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                  Siobhán Greaney (Shivers)
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                  @CiaraNi @psneeze Went down a fun path - cause fada means 'long' and it elongates the vowels... got curious and now know umlaut apparently word roots are 'about sound'

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                  • CiaraC Ciara

                    It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

                    Jordan BiserkovJ This user is from outside of this forum
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                    @CiaraNi
                    well, there's this: https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%C3%BCmlaut

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                    • CiaraC Ciara

                      It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

                      JohnB This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @CiaraNi nor is there an apostrophe in the word apostrophe, nor . . . [you get the idea]

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                      • CiaraC Ciara

                        It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

                        Log 🪵L This user is from outside of this forum
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                        Log 🪵
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                        @CiaraNi Could manage one on a diëresis.

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                        • CiaraC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @czottmann Haha, danke very much, that's a pleasing collection of letters

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                          • Siobhán Greaney (Shivers)S Siobhán Greaney (Shivers)

                            @CiaraNi @psneeze Went down a fun path - cause fada means 'long' and it elongates the vowels... got curious and now know umlaut apparently word roots are 'about sound'

                            Jim DalyP This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @shivers @CiaraNi 😮 I never knew that.

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                            • WillW Will

                              @CiaraNi
                              And the word 'stød' isn't pronounced with a stød in it. What's with that?!

                              CiaraC This user is from outside of this forum
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                              Ciara
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                              @wannabemystiker I know, right? When Mette Frederiksen is finished with Trump, we'll ask her to get on to fixing this next.

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                                @tanghus @wannabemystiker That's a very interesting article. Thanks for sharing it. I've bookmarked for a deeper read later.

                                This pleased me to read:

                                "Men det er ikke danskerne syd for stødgrænsen der udtaler ordene underligt. Faktisk er det underligt at danskerne nord for stødgrænsen overhovedet begyndte at ’støde’.

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                                • JohnB John

                                  @CiaraNi nor is there an apostrophe in the word apostrophe, nor . . . [you get the idea]

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                                  @BooksandJohn We should really do something about that

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                                  • CiaraC Ciara

                                    It upsets me that there are no umlauts in the word umlaut

                                    Tim JT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @CiaraNi Maybe you could say in a Northern Irish accent and call it an an umlaüt? That's the only way I can see to put one in without mangling the sound of the word.

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                                      @tanghus @hanscees Ha - it does actually have a kind of sexy aura in Anaïs. I waver between thinking the New Yorker is being pretentious and thinking the New Yorker is keeping good linguistic traditions alive, depending on how good a lunch I had on the given day I'm thinking about it.

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                                      • Log 🪵L Log 🪵

                                        @CiaraNi Could manage one on a diëresis.

                                        CiaraC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        Ciara
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                                        @log That'd do

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                                        • Tim JT Tim J

                                          @CiaraNi Maybe you could say in a Northern Irish accent and call it an an umlaüt? That's the only way I can see to put one in without mangling the sound of the word.

                                          CiaraC This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          Ciara
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                                          @timtfj Ah sure let's put at least two of them in there while we're at it. There are three vowels, so that'd still be quite restrained.

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