When the war in Ukraine broke out, and Europe was hesitant in the first year, I thought alright, this is a surprise to everyone and of course we need time to prepare.

@benroyce @randahl yes, Ukraine did. In the Donbass since 2014. In Odessa https://www.peoplesworld.org/article/the-odessa-trade-union-massacre-ten-years-later/

And this is why you live in the Teletubbies world. Say hi to Dinwy Winky from me.

PD: and no, I don't believe the Kremlin. But I know our enemy is not them, but the ones across the ocean.

@benroyce @randahl I know what the Ukrainian people voted before that coup d'etat, and it was a pro-Russian president. So you think the will of the ones demonstrating was more important than that of the ones who voted for him?

@aguVV @randahl

the odessa clashes were pro-russia and pro-ukraine mobs fighting it out AFTER russia seized crimea and sent troops into donbas, you stupid liar

you are a lying vatnik, or you are a moron who believe kremlin lies with zero thought going on in that walnut sized cranium of yours

and yes, the usa across the ocean fucking sucks. and? what does that have to do with russia invading ukraine for mass murdering imperialism? you like imperialism, dimwit?

why. are. you. so. dumb.

@benroyce @randahl which happened AFTER that coup d'etat. Crazy they wanted to salvage their base in the Black Sea, huh?

"and yes, the usa across the ocean fucking sucks. and? what does that have to do with russia invading ukraine for mass murdering imperialism? you like imperialism, dimwit?"

Nothing, it has NOTHING to do.

Ok, go back to read fantasy tales of good and bad. I won't bother to answer you anymore. It's like talking to a 5 year old kid.

@randahl Alright. Let's just attack Russia and hope we don't see 5.000 nukes falling from the sky. That sounds like an amazing idea.

Actually, why don't we just end ourselves and spare the Russians the trouble.

@randahl the Vatnik/Tankies usually retort: "if you want war, then pack and join the front lines" 🤬
Usually I answer that "if we don't use our armies, then we can simply dismantle them"

I noticed in France, many people are fine sending the army meddling in Africa, yet when it comes to Russia... crickets.

When the war in Ukraine broke out, and Europe was hesitant in the first year, I thought alright, this is a surprise to everyone and of course we need time to prepare.

Now 4 years have passed, and we are 450 million EU and 69 million UK citizens still standing on the sidelines, telling 38 million Ukrainians they should fight 133 million Russians on their own.

We could end this war. Instead we keep pretending that it is fine to let Ukraine take all the punches.

I find that profoundly shameful.

@randahl maybe because you are old enough to not go to the frontline. What about the young population? Are you ready to kill hundreds of thousands of us?

Another reason is not going to war to defend a continent that sucks up to trump, and still trades with Russia through other countries. Hypocrisy.

Maybe you can say that anyway they will strike us. A situation VERY different than escalating the war by having 20 something countries declaring war at russia. 1/2

When the war in Ukraine broke out, and Europe was hesitant in the first year, I thought alright, this is a surprise to everyone and of course we need time to prepare.

Now 4 years have passed, and we are 450 million EU and 69 million UK citizens still standing on the sidelines, telling 38 million Ukrainians they should fight 133 million Russians on their own.

We could end this war. Instead we keep pretending that it is fine to let Ukraine take all the punches.

I find that profoundly shameful.

When the war in Ukraine broke out, and Europe was hesitant in the first year, I thought alright, this is a surprise to everyone and of course we need time to prepare.

Now 4 years have passed, and we are 450 million EU and 69 million UK citizens still standing on the sidelines, telling 38 million Ukrainians they should fight 133 million Russians on their own.

We could end this war. Instead we keep pretending that it is fine to let Ukraine take all the punches.

I find that profoundly shameful.

@randahl maybe because you are old enough to not go to the frontline. What about the young population? Are you ready to kill hundreds of thousands of us?

Another reason is not going to war to defend a continent that sucks up to trump, and still trades with Russia through other countries. Hypocrisy.

Maybe you can say that anyway they will strike us. A situation VERY different than escalating the war by having 20 something countries declaring war at russia. 1/2

When the war in Ukraine broke out, and Europe was hesitant in the first year, I thought alright, this is a surprise to everyone and of course we need time to prepare.

Now 4 years have passed, and we are 450 million EU and 69 million UK citizens still standing on the sidelines, telling 38 million Ukrainians they should fight 133 million Russians on their own.

We could end this war. Instead we keep pretending that it is fine to let Ukraine take all the punches.

I find that profoundly shameful.

When the war in Ukraine broke out, and Europe was hesitant in the first year, I thought alright, this is a surprise to everyone and of course we need time to prepare.

Now 4 years have passed, and we are 450 million EU and 69 million UK citizens still standing on the sidelines, telling 38 million Ukrainians they should fight 133 million Russians on their own.

We could end this war. Instead we keep pretending that it is fine to let Ukraine take all the punches.

I find that profoundly shameful.

@Ravonges @randahl

if russia nukes europe moscow ceases to exist in an equivalent nuclear hellfire. so russia won't nuke europe

and europeans aren't just going to end themselves as you wish, vatnik

When the war in Ukraine broke out, and Europe was hesitant in the first year, I thought alright, this is a surprise to everyone and of course we need time to prepare.

Now 4 years have passed, and we are 450 million EU and 69 million UK citizens still standing on the sidelines, telling 38 million Ukrainians they should fight 133 million Russians on their own.

We could end this war. Instead we keep pretending that it is fine to let Ukraine take all the punches.

I find that profoundly shameful.

@benroyce @randahl I don't think you're able to see how the world works due to ypur limited capacity, but a friendly Egypt government was needed by Israel - USA proxy agent in the region, as we've repeteadly seen -, while Ukraine was used by the same powers to push Russia far from Europe, where they had been taking relevant trading presence.

It's not about supporting Russia or Ukraine, it's about severing ties completely with the world's biggest fascist power nowadays that, yes, is able to give coup d'etats wherever they want and destroy countries and people's lives at will: USA.

@benroyce As an EU citizen, I don't want to end us. I fully support my own survival, and the survival of my fellow humans.

My point is, it's a fucking idiot move, to attack the biggest nuclear power, especially when they have threatened to fire their 5000 dirty bombs, if we do.

Play smart, not hard.

When the war in Ukraine broke out, and Europe was hesitant in the first year, I thought alright, this is a surprise to everyone and of course we need time to prepare.

Now 4 years have passed, and we are 450 million EU and 69 million UK citizens still standing on the sidelines, telling 38 million Ukrainians they should fight 133 million Russians on their own.

We could end this war. Instead we keep pretending that it is fine to let Ukraine take all the punches.

I find that profoundly shameful.

When the war in Ukraine broke out, and Europe was hesitant in the first year, I thought alright, this is a surprise to everyone and of course we need time to prepare.

Now 4 years have passed, and we are 450 million EU and 69 million UK citizens still standing on the sidelines, telling 38 million Ukrainians they should fight 133 million Russians on their own.

We could end this war. Instead we keep pretending that it is fine to let Ukraine take all the punches.

I find that profoundly shameful.

When the war in Ukraine broke out, and Europe was hesitant in the first year, I thought alright, this is a surprise to everyone and of course we need time to prepare.

Now 4 years have passed, and we are 450 million EU and 69 million UK citizens still standing on the sidelines, telling 38 million Ukrainians they should fight 133 million Russians on their own.

We could end this war. Instead we keep pretending that it is fine to let Ukraine take all the punches.

I find that profoundly shameful.