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  3. As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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  • ๐Ÿ”ถMark Nicoll 3.5%๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ณD ๐Ÿ”ถMark Nicoll 3.5%๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ณ

    @gulfie @garius
    That's what happens when companies have some really good success, they expand and turn everything new around them to shit.

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    @duckwhistle @garius On the plus side their purchase of BEA probably accelerated the move away from the full stack J2EE architecture to much lighter weight, simpler alternatives.

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    • John BullG John Bull

      As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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      @garius
      I wonder when they will figure out that Bill Gates is horrible, not because he met Epstein, but because he built Microsoft on his theft of other people's intellectual property.

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      • John BullG John Bull

        As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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        Free Tier VPS is sooo generous though!!1! ๐Ÿ˜…
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        • Maho ๐Ÿฆ๐ŸปM Maho ๐Ÿฆ๐Ÿป

          @garius wait, what happened

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          @mapache @garius That's what I came here trying to find out, too! From reading through, it looks like it's just that Oracle bought TikTok, I guess? (And so I guess it's really that the younger generation is*about to* discover, etc., etc., not that they're doing so yet?)

          I'd be happy to get more information, if there is any.

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          • John BullG John Bull

            As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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            @garius

            I miss Sun Microsystems...

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            • Phil HaighG Phil Haigh

              @garius Oracle, to me, are the trailblazer for so many tech companies. One good product, lots of duff ones, and a reputation for buggering up any โ€œgoodโ€ software that they bought upโ€ฆ

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              @gulfie @garius Sun Microsystems for instance. R.I.P.

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              • Stumpy The MuttS Stumpy The Mutt

                @gulfie @garius Sun Microsystems for instance. R.I.P.

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                @StumpyTheMutt @garius yep. Iโ€™m not sure the outcome would have been much better if Google had got there first, either. Different yes, better? Almost definitely not. But buying Sun wasnโ€™t on their radar.

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                • John BullG John Bull

                  As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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                  @garius wellโ€ฆ at least they are doing kinda great job as a #Java steward ๐Ÿ™‚

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                  • John BullG John Bull

                    As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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                    @garius As no DBA (and maybe to young?) I always asked myself if there was ever a usecase for prperitary DBMS products? I saw it AS strict requirement for 3rd party Software, but for what? Thinking of PostgreSQL (and other free DBs) it offers clustering, scripting, extensions like GIS, ...
                    So what was the point?

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                    • jz.tuskJ jz.tusk

                      @lemgandi @garius

                      Fuck Oracle and all, but if they don't know how to put a constraint on a column I gotta wonder if there was ever any hope.....

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                      @jztusk @garius

                      Nope, not for a lot of places. And yeh, that's the band-aid. But still, every DBA is going to have a DIFFERENT CONSTRAINT. Y/N, y/n, 0/1, 1/-1, 1/0, O/N.

                      I think there's even a mid-eastern language out there where "No" begins with a Y ...

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                      • lemgandiL lemgandi

                        @jztusk @garius

                        Nope, not for a lot of places. And yeh, that's the band-aid. But still, every DBA is going to have a DIFFERENT CONSTRAINT. Y/N, y/n, 0/1, 1/-1, 1/0, O/N.

                        I think there's even a mid-eastern language out there where "No" begins with a Y ...

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                        @jztusk @garius

                        And then of course Gary, who quit 5 years ago, favors +/-. But the new guy uses y/n. So now the unlucky developers get to juggle 4 different mutually incompatible values for a Boolean.

                        Use 'y' instead of '+'? Oops, that's a bug that takes 4 hours to find.

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