As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.
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@garius And their flagship database is an enormous pile of Crap. Many people feed their families by knowing its quirks and difficulties, but I'd rather be productive.
To give you just one example: Oracle SQL HAS NO BOOLEAN DATA TYPE. The official recommendation is to use a 1 char field. What goes into that? Well, who knows? "Y/N" ? "y/n"? "O/N" if you're french? "1/0"?
In many shops, the result is supposedly boolean fields that contain 3, 5, even 7 different values. Yikes.
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@garius it might be time to go back and rewatch Brian Cantrill's "don't anthropomorphise Larry Ellison" talk
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As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.
@garius This.
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As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.
@garius 35 years here. The reasons have varied over the years but it’s been well over half my life of fuck those guys
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@MakeAppPie @garius no, he has a house on land stolen from Indigenous Hawai'ians.
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@MakeAppPie @garius no, he has a house on land stolen from Indigenous Hawai'ians.
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As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.
@garius@mastodon.me.uk god i remember installing oracle from scratch and asking myself why does it have to be so hard ? i just wanted a dev database. now i just use sqlite for all dev work. funny because i also used illustra which sort of became the postgres. that thing used to crash all the time .
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As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.
Aside from the solarcide, I didn’t really have much ire towards Oracle. They were awful towards their customers but their products were so expensive that anyone who was an Oracle customer could have easily afforded to not be an Oracle customer. In contrast, a load of other big tech companies were abusive to people who weren’t their customers, or to people who were their customers only because they had no other choice.
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@garius Oracle, to me, are the trailblazer for so many tech companies. One good product, lots of duff ones, and a reputation for buggering up any “good” software that they bought up…
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@duckwhistle @garius On the plus side their purchase of BEA probably accelerated the move away from the full stack J2EE architecture to much lighter weight, simpler alternatives.
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As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.
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I wonder when they will figure out that Bill Gates is horrible, not because he met Epstein, but because he built Microsoft on his theft of other people's intellectual property. -
As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.
Free Tier VPS is sooo generous though!!1!
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@mapache @garius That's what I came here trying to find out, too! From reading through, it looks like it's just that Oracle bought TikTok, I guess? (And so I guess it's really that the younger generation is*about to* discover, etc., etc., not that they're doing so yet?)
I'd be happy to get more information, if there is any.
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As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.
I miss Sun Microsystems...
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@garius Oracle, to me, are the trailblazer for so many tech companies. One good product, lots of duff ones, and a reputation for buggering up any “good” software that they bought up…
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@StumpyTheMutt @garius yep. I’m not sure the outcome would have been much better if Google had got there first, either. Different yes, better? Almost definitely not. But buying Sun wasn’t on their radar.
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As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.
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As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.
@garius As no DBA (and maybe to young?) I always asked myself if there was ever a usecase for prperitary DBMS products? I saw it AS strict requirement for 3rd party Software, but for what? Thinking of PostgreSQL (and other free DBs) it offers clustering, scripting, extensions like GIS, ...
So what was the point?
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