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  3. As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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  • John BullG John Bull

    As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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    @garius@mastodon.me.uk god i remember installing oracle from scratch and asking myself why does it have to be so hard ? i just wanted a dev database. now i just use sqlite for all dev work. funny because i also used illustra which sort of became the postgres. that thing used to crash all the time .

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    • John BullG John Bull

      As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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      David Chisnall (*Now with 50% more sarcasm!*)
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      @garius

      Aside from the solarcide, I didn’t really have much ire towards Oracle. They were awful towards their customers but their products were so expensive that anyone who was an Oracle customer could have easily afforded to not be an Oracle customer. In contrast, a load of other big tech companies were abusive to people who weren’t their customers, or to people who were their customers only because they had no other choice.

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      • Phil HaighG Phil Haigh

        @garius Oracle, to me, are the trailblazer for so many tech companies. One good product, lots of duff ones, and a reputation for buggering up any “good” software that they bought up…

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        @gulfie @garius
        That's what happens when companies have some really good success, they expand and turn everything new around them to shit.

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          @gulfie @garius
          That's what happens when companies have some really good success, they expand and turn everything new around them to shit.

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          @duckwhistle @garius On the plus side their purchase of BEA probably accelerated the move away from the full stack J2EE architecture to much lighter weight, simpler alternatives.

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          • John BullG John Bull

            As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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            @garius
            I wonder when they will figure out that Bill Gates is horrible, not because he met Epstein, but because he built Microsoft on his theft of other people's intellectual property.

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            • John BullG John Bull

              As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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              Free Tier VPS is sooo generous though!!1! 😅
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              • Maho 🦝🍻M Maho 🦝🍻

                @garius wait, what happened

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                @mapache @garius That's what I came here trying to find out, too! From reading through, it looks like it's just that Oracle bought TikTok, I guess? (And so I guess it's really that the younger generation is*about to* discover, etc., etc., not that they're doing so yet?)

                I'd be happy to get more information, if there is any.

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                • John BullG John Bull

                  As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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                  #52

                  @garius

                  I miss Sun Microsystems...

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                  • Phil HaighG Phil Haigh

                    @garius Oracle, to me, are the trailblazer for so many tech companies. One good product, lots of duff ones, and a reputation for buggering up any “good” software that they bought up…

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                    @gulfie @garius Sun Microsystems for instance. R.I.P.

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                    • Stumpy The MuttS Stumpy The Mutt

                      @gulfie @garius Sun Microsystems for instance. R.I.P.

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                      #54

                      @StumpyTheMutt @garius yep. I’m not sure the outcome would have been much better if Google had got there first, either. Different yes, better? Almost definitely not. But buying Sun wasn’t on their radar.

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                      • John BullG John Bull

                        As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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                        @garius well… at least they are doing kinda great job as a #Java steward 🙂

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                        • John BullG John Bull

                          As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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                          @garius As no DBA (and maybe to young?) I always asked myself if there was ever a usecase for prperitary DBMS products? I saw it AS strict requirement for 3rd party Software, but for what? Thinking of PostgreSQL (and other free DBs) it offers clustering, scripting, extensions like GIS, ...
                          So what was the point?

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                          • jz.tuskJ jz.tusk

                            @lemgandi @garius

                            Fuck Oracle and all, but if they don't know how to put a constraint on a column I gotta wonder if there was ever any hope.....

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                            @jztusk @garius

                            Nope, not for a lot of places. And yeh, that's the band-aid. But still, every DBA is going to have a DIFFERENT CONSTRAINT. Y/N, y/n, 0/1, 1/-1, 1/0, O/N.

                            I think there's even a mid-eastern language out there where "No" begins with a Y ...

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                            • lemgandiL lemgandi

                              @jztusk @garius

                              Nope, not for a lot of places. And yeh, that's the band-aid. But still, every DBA is going to have a DIFFERENT CONSTRAINT. Y/N, y/n, 0/1, 1/-1, 1/0, O/N.

                              I think there's even a mid-eastern language out there where "No" begins with a Y ...

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                              @jztusk @garius

                              And then of course Gary, who quit 5 years ago, favors +/-. But the new guy uses y/n. So now the unlucky developers get to juggle 4 different mutually incompatible values for a Boolean.

                              Use 'y' instead of '+'? Oops, that's a bug that takes 4 hours to find.

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