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As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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  • John BullG John Bull

    As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

    Ra (Freya) (it/its)๐’€ญ๐’ˆน๐’ ๐’ŠฉF This user is from outside of this forum
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    Ra (Freya) (it/its)๐’€ญ๐’ˆน๐’ ๐’Šฉ
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    @garius oracle is the primary reason I'm on Solaris 10 1/13 with the 2021-10 p[atch, not the 2026-01 patchset. bastards

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    • Emma needs โ˜•๏ธ and paying workE Emma needs โ˜•๏ธ and paying work

      @garius all these clowns about to find out Larry Ellison is yet another serial sexual abuser.

      Steven LiptonM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #37

      @emma @garius well he does have his own islandโ€ฆ

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      • John BullG John Bull

        As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

        Maho ๐Ÿฆ๐ŸปM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #38

        @garius wait, what happened

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        • lemgandiL lemgandi

          @garius And their flagship database is an enormous pile of Crap. Many people feed their families by knowing its quirks and difficulties, but I'd rather be productive.

          To give you just one example: Oracle SQL HAS NO BOOLEAN DATA TYPE. The official recommendation is to use a 1 char field. What goes into that? Well, who knows? "Y/N" ? "y/n"? "O/N" if you're french? "1/0"?

          In many shops, the result is supposedly boolean fields that contain 3, 5, even 7 different values. Yikes.

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          @lemgandi @garius

          Fuck Oracle and all, but if they don't know how to put a constraint on a column I gotta wonder if there was ever any hope.....

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          • ? Guest

            @garius it might be time to go back and rewatch Brian Cantrill's "don't anthropomorphise Larry Ellison" talk

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            @johncc @garius

            Came here looking for "you wouldn't hate a lawnmower, would you?". Thanks for keeping things real.

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            • John BullG John Bull

              As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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              @garius This.

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              • John BullG John Bull

                As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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                #42

                @garius 35 years here. The reasons have varied over the years but itโ€™s been well over half my life of fuck those guys

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                • Steven LiptonM Steven Lipton

                  @emma @garius well he does have his own islandโ€ฆ

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                  Emma needs โ˜•๏ธ and paying workE This user is from outside of this forum
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                  @MakeAppPie @garius no, he has a house on land stolen from Indigenous Hawai'ians.

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                  • Emma needs โ˜•๏ธ and paying workE Emma needs โ˜•๏ธ and paying work

                    @MakeAppPie @garius no, he has a house on land stolen from Indigenous Hawai'ians.

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                    @emma @garius yes, I was going to put a stolen Island, but given the context I did leave that part out.

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                    • John BullG John Bull

                      As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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                      @garius@mastodon.me.uk god i remember installing oracle from scratch and asking myself why does it have to be so hard ? i just wanted a dev database. now i just use sqlite for all dev work. funny because i also used illustra which sort of became the postgres. that thing used to crash all the time .

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                      • John BullG John Bull

                        As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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                        #46

                        @garius

                        Aside from the solarcide, I didnโ€™t really have much ire towards Oracle. They were awful towards their customers but their products were so expensive that anyone who was an Oracle customer could have easily afforded to not be an Oracle customer. In contrast, a load of other big tech companies were abusive to people who werenโ€™t their customers, or to people who were their customers only because they had no other choice.

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                        • Phil HaighG Phil Haigh

                          @garius Oracle, to me, are the trailblazer for so many tech companies. One good product, lots of duff ones, and a reputation for buggering up any โ€œgoodโ€ software that they bought upโ€ฆ

                          ๐Ÿ”ถMark Nicoll 3.5%๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ณD This user is from outside of this forum
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                          @gulfie @garius
                          That's what happens when companies have some really good success, they expand and turn everything new around them to shit.

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                          • ๐Ÿ”ถMark Nicoll 3.5%๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ณD ๐Ÿ”ถMark Nicoll 3.5%๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ณ

                            @gulfie @garius
                            That's what happens when companies have some really good success, they expand and turn everything new around them to shit.

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                            @duckwhistle @garius On the plus side their purchase of BEA probably accelerated the move away from the full stack J2EE architecture to much lighter weight, simpler alternatives.

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                            • John BullG John Bull

                              As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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                              Shirley Eugest
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                              @garius
                              I wonder when they will figure out that Bill Gates is horrible, not because he met Epstein, but because he built Microsoft on his theft of other people's intellectual property.

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                              • John BullG John Bull

                                As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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                                Free Tier VPS is sooo generous though!!1! ๐Ÿ˜…
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                                • Maho ๐Ÿฆ๐ŸปM Maho ๐Ÿฆ๐Ÿป

                                  @garius wait, what happened

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                                  @mapache @garius That's what I came here trying to find out, too! From reading through, it looks like it's just that Oracle bought TikTok, I guess? (And so I guess it's really that the younger generation is*about to* discover, etc., etc., not that they're doing so yet?)

                                  I'd be happy to get more information, if there is any.

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                                  • John BullG John Bull

                                    As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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                                    @garius

                                    I miss Sun Microsystems...

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                                    • Phil HaighG Phil Haigh

                                      @garius Oracle, to me, are the trailblazer for so many tech companies. One good product, lots of duff ones, and a reputation for buggering up any โ€œgoodโ€ software that they bought upโ€ฆ

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                                      @gulfie @garius Sun Microsystems for instance. R.I.P.

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                                      • Stumpy The MuttS Stumpy The Mutt

                                        @gulfie @garius Sun Microsystems for instance. R.I.P.

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                                        @StumpyTheMutt @garius yep. Iโ€™m not sure the outcome would have been much better if Google had got there first, either. Different yes, better? Almost definitely not. But buying Sun wasnโ€™t on their radar.

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                                        • John BullG John Bull

                                          As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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                                          @garius wellโ€ฆ at least they are doing kinda great job as a #Java steward ๐Ÿ™‚

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