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As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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  • Roger BW 😷R Roger BW 😷

    @garius Just got an all-staff email at the university: no new transactions (expenses, purchases, etc.) for a month while they set up some new Oracle thing. I sent them a message of condolence.

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    @RogerBW @garius The great thing about unis is that, as terrible as Oracle is, guaranteed it's still not the worst part of the information architecture.

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    • John BullG John Bull

      As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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      Shertson
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      @garius

      A product my employer used for a decade was bought out by oracle through another acquisition. Luckily the product was already sunset and there was only a six month overlap between EOL and the acquisition. Two years later we are still fighting bills incurred after EOL date. Sales order vs opportunities something or other. Trying to explain to CFO how Oracle is a money machine not a tech company made me sound like a crazy person. I think he is starting to get it now.

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      • John BullG John Bull

        As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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        @garius
        Something to talk about in the holidays

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        • John BullG John Bull

          As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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          @garius See? Once in a loooong while, the laws of Kamma actually work in some discernible way.

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          • John BullG John Bull

            As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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            jlwndski
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            @garius
            Lawsuite Larry has many enemies.

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            • ZeborahZ Zeborah

              @RogerBW @garius The great thing about unis is that, as terrible as Oracle is, guaranteed it's still not the worst part of the information architecture.

              MacCruiskeenM This user is from outside of this forum
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              @zeborah @RogerBW @garius We have sharepoint now too.

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              • John BullG John Bull

                As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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                @garius the only thing Oracle predicts is "Things we touch will turn to shit. Expensively"

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                • John BullG John Bull

                  As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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                  @garius 💯

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                  • John BullG John Bull

                    As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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                    Ra (Freya) (it/its)𒀭𒈹𒍠𒊩
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                    @garius oracle is the primary reason I'm on Solaris 10 1/13 with the 2021-10 p[atch, not the 2026-01 patchset. bastards

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                    • Emma needs ☕️ and paying workE Emma needs ☕️ and paying work

                      @garius all these clowns about to find out Larry Ellison is yet another serial sexual abuser.

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                      @emma @garius well he does have his own island…

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                      • John BullG John Bull

                        As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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                        Maho 🦝🍻
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                        @garius wait, what happened

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                        • lemgandiL lemgandi

                          @garius And their flagship database is an enormous pile of Crap. Many people feed their families by knowing its quirks and difficulties, but I'd rather be productive.

                          To give you just one example: Oracle SQL HAS NO BOOLEAN DATA TYPE. The official recommendation is to use a 1 char field. What goes into that? Well, who knows? "Y/N" ? "y/n"? "O/N" if you're french? "1/0"?

                          In many shops, the result is supposedly boolean fields that contain 3, 5, even 7 different values. Yikes.

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                          @lemgandi @garius

                          Fuck Oracle and all, but if they don't know how to put a constraint on a column I gotta wonder if there was ever any hope.....

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                          • ? Guest

                            @garius it might be time to go back and rewatch Brian Cantrill's "don't anthropomorphise Larry Ellison" talk

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                            @johncc @garius

                            Came here looking for "you wouldn't hate a lawnmower, would you?". Thanks for keeping things real.

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                            • John BullG John Bull

                              As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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                              @garius This.

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                              • John BullG John Bull

                                As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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                                @garius 35 years here. The reasons have varied over the years but it’s been well over half my life of fuck those guys

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                                • Steven LiptonM Steven Lipton

                                  @emma @garius well he does have his own island…

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                                  Emma needs ☕️ and paying work
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                                  @MakeAppPie @garius no, he has a house on land stolen from Indigenous Hawai'ians.

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                                  • Emma needs ☕️ and paying workE Emma needs ☕️ and paying work

                                    @MakeAppPie @garius no, he has a house on land stolen from Indigenous Hawai'ians.

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                                    @emma @garius yes, I was going to put a stolen Island, but given the context I did leave that part out.

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                                    • John BullG John Bull

                                      As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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                                      Ellyse
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                                      @garius@mastodon.me.uk god i remember installing oracle from scratch and asking myself why does it have to be so hard ? i just wanted a dev database. now i just use sqlite for all dev work. funny because i also used illustra which sort of became the postgres. that thing used to crash all the time .

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                                      • John BullG John Bull

                                        As an older tech person, it's legit heartwarming watching the TikTok generation discover why we all hate Oracle.

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                                        @garius

                                        Aside from the solarcide, I didn’t really have much ire towards Oracle. They were awful towards their customers but their products were so expensive that anyone who was an Oracle customer could have easily afforded to not be an Oracle customer. In contrast, a load of other big tech companies were abusive to people who weren’t their customers, or to people who were their customers only because they had no other choice.

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                                        • Phil HaighG Phil Haigh

                                          @garius Oracle, to me, are the trailblazer for so many tech companies. One good product, lots of duff ones, and a reputation for buggering up any “good” software that they bought up…

                                          🔶Mark Nicoll 3.5%🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇬🇧🇪🇺🇺🇳D This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          @gulfie @garius
                                          That's what happens when companies have some really good success, they expand and turn everything new around them to shit.

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