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Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini.

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  • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

    Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

    #darkpatterns

    R4D10 411310947HYR This user is from outside of this forum
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    R4D10 411310947HY
    wrote on last edited by
    #53

    @briankrebs classic tech "innovation," tactic. If they don't want it... Force them to use it.

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    • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

      Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

      #darkpatterns

      TheaF This user is from outside of this forum
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      Thea
      wrote on last edited by
      #54

      @briankrebs I have smart features & personalization disabled to turn off Gemini and I STILL get this message. Evil.

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      • spvS spv

        @pattykimura @briankrebs out of curiosity, i'm curious what the term was?

        Duckbilled Plattypus.P This user is from outside of this forum
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        Duckbilled Plattypus.
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        #55

        @spv

        "good fit" vis a vis advertising employment preferences without directly naming acceptable qualifying required work-related attributes like "collaborative" or "detailed-oriented" or "timely" to explain context. This is because "good fit" can be (has been) used as an unlawful way to exclude qualified candidates who do not share race or gender or religion etc. attributes of the majority employed, ie "fit in".

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        • Duckbilled Plattypus.P Duckbilled Plattypus.

          @spv

          "good fit" vis a vis advertising employment preferences without directly naming acceptable qualifying required work-related attributes like "collaborative" or "detailed-oriented" or "timely" to explain context. This is because "good fit" can be (has been) used as an unlawful way to exclude qualified candidates who do not share race or gender or religion etc. attributes of the majority employed, ie "fit in".

          spvS This user is from outside of this forum
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          spv
          wrote on last edited by
          #56

          @pattykimura interesting! thank you πŸ˜›

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          • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

            Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

            #darkpatterns

            segfault cultS This user is from outside of this forum
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            segfault cult
            wrote on last edited by
            #57

            @briankrebs it's always a tough choice between continuing and continuing.

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            • gardengeekG gardengeek

              @multisn8

              I did! when seeing this screenshot, my first thought was: huh, I wonder how confidential this really is?? I was confident about my initial read.

              Also, does this mean that some (many? most??) emails I receive from gmail accounts will be written by AI? I'm sorry, but I do not spend my time reading AI-generated mail. Boycott in both directions (sending and receiving from gmail).

              @briankrebs

              gardengeekG This user is from outside of this forum
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              gardengeek
              wrote on last edited by
              #58

              @multisn8

              sorry, I don't mean boycott in the receiving direction.. I have a couple of friends and senior family who use gmail. And I talked them away from facebook, so I can't ask this as well (otherwise, I would come across as unaccommodating).
              But also my friends and family would never use AI to write to me. Would they??
              oh God, I hope not. If they ever felt they wanted to, then I should def finally visit them and help them clear out their garage.

              @briankrebs

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              • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                #darkpatterns

                NatN This user is from outside of this forum
                NatN This user is from outside of this forum
                Nat
                wrote on last edited by
                #59

                @briankrebs As of today, Gmail is also popping up AI summaries of my emails in the app.

                Ugh I've been meaning to change servers and get the fuck away from Google but with ADHD and a lot of other life stressors I keep putting it off. Aaaaand now it's definitely time.

                I know about proton mail, where was that list of all the other replacements for Google services? Google calendar is one I'm very much tied to...

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                • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                  Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                  #darkpatterns

                  OldGeekO This user is from outside of this forum
                  OldGeekO This user is from outside of this forum
                  OldGeek
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #60

                  @briankrebs I used to unlock my phone without my glasses on, but there are too many want to try/turn on Gemini buttons every effing screen it seems. So always have to have them on, but I'm sure someday I will accidently accept...

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                  • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                    Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                    #darkpatterns

                    Michael β˜•οΈM This user is from outside of this forum
                    Michael β˜•οΈM This user is from outside of this forum
                    Michael β˜•οΈ
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #61

                    @briankrebs
                    #Microsoft #Consent #UX

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                    • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                      Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                      #darkpatterns

                      Yoshimatsu βœ…πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦Y This user is from outside of this forum
                      Yoshimatsu βœ…πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦Y This user is from outside of this forum
                      Yoshimatsu βœ…πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #62

                      @briankrebs One would have to be a total moron to let bozos compose their emails. But, then again, I guess there are many total morons.

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                      • Michael β˜•οΈM Michael β˜•οΈ

                        @briankrebs
                        #Microsoft #Consent #UX

                        MinisterofimpedimentsM This user is from outside of this forum
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                        Ministerofimpediments
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                        #63

                        @mcpinson @briankrebs
                        Understands?
                        Absolutely.
                        Cares?
                        Well…

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                        • NatN Nat

                          @briankrebs As of today, Gmail is also popping up AI summaries of my emails in the app.

                          Ugh I've been meaning to change servers and get the fuck away from Google but with ADHD and a lot of other life stressors I keep putting it off. Aaaaand now it's definitely time.

                          I know about proton mail, where was that list of all the other replacements for Google services? Google calendar is one I'm very much tied to...

                          R FR This user is from outside of this forum
                          R FR This user is from outside of this forum
                          R F
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #64

                          @nat @briankrebs tuta is a good alternative, too

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                          • Michael β˜•οΈM Michael β˜•οΈ

                            @briankrebs
                            #Microsoft #Consent #UX

                            rickfR This user is from outside of this forum
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                            rickf
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #65

                            @mcpinson @briankrebs

                            oooof, brilliant.

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                            • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                              Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                              #darkpatterns

                              EmoryE This user is from outside of this forum
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                              Emory
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #66

                              @briankrebs THE ILLUSION OF CHOICE πŸͺ„

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                              • diana πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈπŸ¦‹πŸŒ±D diana πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈπŸ¦‹πŸŒ±

                                @briankrebs

                                and this is why I am going back to the 1990's style email server, spool, and a terminal window client that reads text. Just like the old Unix days as K&R intended.

                                EmoryE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                Emory
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #67

                                @dianea lady it's an exciting time. there are multiple maintained terminal-first muas right now, and at least two support jmap. i should do a video about my notjust, sup, and mutt setup cuz i use my Maildir as a RAG for a couple of applications.

                                #homebrew has my favorites! i am considering delivery 🚚 into my home again for the first time since 2007.

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                                • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                  Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                                  #darkpatterns

                                  Bill Taroli :neurodiversity:B This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  Bill Taroli :neurodiversity:
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #68

                                  @briankrebs added to the list of reasons I’m glad I dumped Google things long ago.

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                                  • Michael β˜•οΈM Michael β˜•οΈ

                                    @briankrebs
                                    #Microsoft #Consent #UX

                                    mike morrisM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    mike morris
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #69

                                    @mcpinson @briankrebs
                                    The mindset of a rapist who won't take "No" for an answer.

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                                    • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                      Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                                      #darkpatterns

                                      LoohoosaherH This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      Loohoosaher
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                                      #70

                                      @briankrebs bobot in my inbox taking my job tryna hit on my wife for me... Fuggoff bobot!!

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                                      • NatN Nat

                                        @briankrebs As of today, Gmail is also popping up AI summaries of my emails in the app.

                                        Ugh I've been meaning to change servers and get the fuck away from Google but with ADHD and a lot of other life stressors I keep putting it off. Aaaaand now it's definitely time.

                                        I know about proton mail, where was that list of all the other replacements for Google services? Google calendar is one I'm very much tied to...

                                        NodamiN This user is from outside of this forum
                                        NodamiN This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Nodami
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #71

                                        @nat

                                        I know I have it somewhere, not finding it now, maybe @FediTips have it handy?
                                        Edited: Just found this article, maybe it can help https://disconnect.blog/getting-off-us-tech-a-guide/
                                        Also one of my fellow librarians use heavily Tuta calendar, so far no complains.

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                                        • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                          Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                                          #darkpatterns

                                          foo βœ…S This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          foo βœ…
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #72

                                          @briankrebs No way to disable this stuff either afaict

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