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Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini.

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  • Raven OnthillR Raven Onthill

    @MsMerope @dianea @briankrebs thunderbird is still around

    MsMeropeM This user is from outside of this forum
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    MsMerope
    wrote on last edited by
    #50

    @ravenonthill @dianea @briankrebs

    It might be nap time
    I wacky parsed that as:

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    • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

      Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

      #darkpatterns

      Chris AdamsA This user is from outside of this forum
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      Chris Adams
      wrote on last edited by
      #51

      @briankrebs this is why I switched to Fastmail. Google's not going to stop pushing Gmail in unfortunate directions until they have a completely different promotion culture.

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      • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

        Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

        #darkpatterns

        Dave bauerD This user is from outside of this forum
        Dave bauerD This user is from outside of this forum
        Dave bauer
        wrote on last edited by
        #52

        @briankrebs The concept is wild, are you confident or do you need help writing the email?

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        • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

          Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

          #darkpatterns

          R4D10 411310947HYR This user is from outside of this forum
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          R4D10 411310947HY
          wrote on last edited by
          #53

          @briankrebs classic tech "innovation," tactic. If they don't want it... Force them to use it.

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          • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

            Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

            #darkpatterns

            TheaF This user is from outside of this forum
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            Thea
            wrote on last edited by
            #54

            @briankrebs I have smart features & personalization disabled to turn off Gemini and I STILL get this message. Evil.

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            • spvS spv

              @pattykimura @briankrebs out of curiosity, i'm curious what the term was?

              Duckbilled Plattypus.P This user is from outside of this forum
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              Duckbilled Plattypus.
              wrote on last edited by
              #55

              @spv

              "good fit" vis a vis advertising employment preferences without directly naming acceptable qualifying required work-related attributes like "collaborative" or "detailed-oriented" or "timely" to explain context. This is because "good fit" can be (has been) used as an unlawful way to exclude qualified candidates who do not share race or gender or religion etc. attributes of the majority employed, ie "fit in".

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              • Duckbilled Plattypus.P Duckbilled Plattypus.

                @spv

                "good fit" vis a vis advertising employment preferences without directly naming acceptable qualifying required work-related attributes like "collaborative" or "detailed-oriented" or "timely" to explain context. This is because "good fit" can be (has been) used as an unlawful way to exclude qualified candidates who do not share race or gender or religion etc. attributes of the majority employed, ie "fit in".

                spvS This user is from outside of this forum
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                spv
                wrote on last edited by
                #56

                @pattykimura interesting! thank you πŸ˜›

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                • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                  Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                  #darkpatterns

                  segfault cultS This user is from outside of this forum
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                  segfault cult
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #57

                  @briankrebs it's always a tough choice between continuing and continuing.

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                  • gardengeekG gardengeek

                    @multisn8

                    I did! when seeing this screenshot, my first thought was: huh, I wonder how confidential this really is?? I was confident about my initial read.

                    Also, does this mean that some (many? most??) emails I receive from gmail accounts will be written by AI? I'm sorry, but I do not spend my time reading AI-generated mail. Boycott in both directions (sending and receiving from gmail).

                    @briankrebs

                    gardengeekG This user is from outside of this forum
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                    gardengeek
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #58

                    @multisn8

                    sorry, I don't mean boycott in the receiving direction.. I have a couple of friends and senior family who use gmail. And I talked them away from facebook, so I can't ask this as well (otherwise, I would come across as unaccommodating).
                    But also my friends and family would never use AI to write to me. Would they??
                    oh God, I hope not. If they ever felt they wanted to, then I should def finally visit them and help them clear out their garage.

                    @briankrebs

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                    • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                      Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                      #darkpatterns

                      NatN This user is from outside of this forum
                      NatN This user is from outside of this forum
                      Nat
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #59

                      @briankrebs As of today, Gmail is also popping up AI summaries of my emails in the app.

                      Ugh I've been meaning to change servers and get the fuck away from Google but with ADHD and a lot of other life stressors I keep putting it off. Aaaaand now it's definitely time.

                      I know about proton mail, where was that list of all the other replacements for Google services? Google calendar is one I'm very much tied to...

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                      • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                        Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                        #darkpatterns

                        OldGeekO This user is from outside of this forum
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                        OldGeek
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #60

                        @briankrebs I used to unlock my phone without my glasses on, but there are too many want to try/turn on Gemini buttons every effing screen it seems. So always have to have them on, but I'm sure someday I will accidently accept...

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                        • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                          Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                          #darkpatterns

                          Michael β˜•οΈM This user is from outside of this forum
                          Michael β˜•οΈM This user is from outside of this forum
                          Michael β˜•οΈ
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #61

                          @briankrebs
                          #Microsoft #Consent #UX

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                          • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                            Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                            #darkpatterns

                            Yoshimatsu βœ…πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦Y This user is from outside of this forum
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                            Yoshimatsu βœ…πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #62

                            @briankrebs One would have to be a total moron to let bozos compose their emails. But, then again, I guess there are many total morons.

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                            • Michael β˜•οΈM Michael β˜•οΈ

                              @briankrebs
                              #Microsoft #Consent #UX

                              MinisterofimpedimentsM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              Ministerofimpediments
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #63

                              @mcpinson @briankrebs
                              Understands?
                              Absolutely.
                              Cares?
                              Well…

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                              • NatN Nat

                                @briankrebs As of today, Gmail is also popping up AI summaries of my emails in the app.

                                Ugh I've been meaning to change servers and get the fuck away from Google but with ADHD and a lot of other life stressors I keep putting it off. Aaaaand now it's definitely time.

                                I know about proton mail, where was that list of all the other replacements for Google services? Google calendar is one I'm very much tied to...

                                R FR This user is from outside of this forum
                                R FR This user is from outside of this forum
                                R F
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #64

                                @nat @briankrebs tuta is a good alternative, too

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                                • Michael β˜•οΈM Michael β˜•οΈ

                                  @briankrebs
                                  #Microsoft #Consent #UX

                                  rickfR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  rickf
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #65

                                  @mcpinson @briankrebs

                                  oooof, brilliant.

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                                  • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                    Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                                    #darkpatterns

                                    EmoryE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    Emory
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #66

                                    @briankrebs THE ILLUSION OF CHOICE πŸͺ„

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                                    • diana πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈπŸ¦‹πŸŒ±D diana πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈπŸ¦‹πŸŒ±

                                      @briankrebs

                                      and this is why I am going back to the 1990's style email server, spool, and a terminal window client that reads text. Just like the old Unix days as K&R intended.

                                      EmoryE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      Emory
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #67

                                      @dianea lady it's an exciting time. there are multiple maintained terminal-first muas right now, and at least two support jmap. i should do a video about my notjust, sup, and mutt setup cuz i use my Maildir as a RAG for a couple of applications.

                                      #homebrew has my favorites! i am considering delivery 🚚 into my home again for the first time since 2007.

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                                      • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                        Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                                        #darkpatterns

                                        Bill Taroli :neurodiversity:B This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        Bill Taroli :neurodiversity:
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #68

                                        @briankrebs added to the list of reasons I’m glad I dumped Google things long ago.

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                                        • Michael β˜•οΈM Michael β˜•οΈ

                                          @briankrebs
                                          #Microsoft #Consent #UX

                                          mike morrisM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          mike morris
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #69

                                          @mcpinson @briankrebs
                                          The mindset of a rapist who won't take "No" for an answer.

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