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Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini.

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  • Paul Chambers🚧P Paul Chambers🚧

    @briankrebs You get the same type nag notification, with the elusive and unclear button naming and choices, for other Google products, like Photos and Home, when they add Gemini features. @MsMerope @kahomono

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    MsMerope
    wrote on last edited by
    #46

    @paul @briankrebs @kahomono

    ugh... fortunately I have to use gmail. Both work and the volunteer group I help run use gmail.

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    • Duckbilled Plattypus.P Duckbilled Plattypus.

      @briankrebs I recently got a business email using a term that is a notorious red flag lawsuit bait. I emailed the sender to politely point it out. They were horrified and admitted AI re-wrote it when they asked AI to make it 'more approachable, nicer.' They forgot to add "and 100% compliant with all laws and regulations."

      spvS This user is from outside of this forum
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      spv
      wrote on last edited by
      #47

      @pattykimura @briankrebs out of curiosity, i'm curious what the term was?

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      • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

        Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

        #darkpatterns

        Sam KurthS This user is from outside of this forum
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        Sam Kurth
        wrote on last edited by
        #48

        @briankrebs I started getting these today, on my "business" account (family) the drive to upgrade to a better version has been going on for months.

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        • MsMeropeM MsMerope

          @dianea @briankrebs

          bring back Eudora!!!

          Raven OnthillR This user is from outside of this forum
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          Raven Onthill
          wrote on last edited by
          #49

          @MsMerope @dianea @briankrebs thunderbird is still around

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          • Raven OnthillR Raven Onthill

            @MsMerope @dianea @briankrebs thunderbird is still around

            MsMeropeM This user is from outside of this forum
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            MsMerope
            wrote on last edited by
            #50

            @ravenonthill @dianea @briankrebs

            It might be nap time
            I wacky parsed that as:

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            • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

              Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

              #darkpatterns

              Chris AdamsA This user is from outside of this forum
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              Chris Adams
              wrote on last edited by
              #51

              @briankrebs this is why I switched to Fastmail. Google's not going to stop pushing Gmail in unfortunate directions until they have a completely different promotion culture.

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              • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                #darkpatterns

                Dave bauerD This user is from outside of this forum
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                Dave bauer
                wrote on last edited by
                #52

                @briankrebs The concept is wild, are you confident or do you need help writing the email?

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                • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                  Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                  #darkpatterns

                  R4D10 411310947HYR This user is from outside of this forum
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                  R4D10 411310947HY
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #53

                  @briankrebs classic tech "innovation," tactic. If they don't want it... Force them to use it.

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                  • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                    Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                    #darkpatterns

                    TheaF This user is from outside of this forum
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                    Thea
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #54

                    @briankrebs I have smart features & personalization disabled to turn off Gemini and I STILL get this message. Evil.

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                    • spvS spv

                      @pattykimura @briankrebs out of curiosity, i'm curious what the term was?

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                      Duckbilled Plattypus.
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #55

                      @spv

                      "good fit" vis a vis advertising employment preferences without directly naming acceptable qualifying required work-related attributes like "collaborative" or "detailed-oriented" or "timely" to explain context. This is because "good fit" can be (has been) used as an unlawful way to exclude qualified candidates who do not share race or gender or religion etc. attributes of the majority employed, ie "fit in".

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                      • Duckbilled Plattypus.P Duckbilled Plattypus.

                        @spv

                        "good fit" vis a vis advertising employment preferences without directly naming acceptable qualifying required work-related attributes like "collaborative" or "detailed-oriented" or "timely" to explain context. This is because "good fit" can be (has been) used as an unlawful way to exclude qualified candidates who do not share race or gender or religion etc. attributes of the majority employed, ie "fit in".

                        spvS This user is from outside of this forum
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                        spv
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #56

                        @pattykimura interesting! thank you 😛

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                        • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                          Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                          #darkpatterns

                          segfault cultS This user is from outside of this forum
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                          segfault cult
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #57

                          @briankrebs it's always a tough choice between continuing and continuing.

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                          • gardengeekG gardengeek

                            @multisn8

                            I did! when seeing this screenshot, my first thought was: huh, I wonder how confidential this really is?? I was confident about my initial read.

                            Also, does this mean that some (many? most??) emails I receive from gmail accounts will be written by AI? I'm sorry, but I do not spend my time reading AI-generated mail. Boycott in both directions (sending and receiving from gmail).

                            @briankrebs

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                            gardengeek
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #58

                            @multisn8

                            sorry, I don't mean boycott in the receiving direction.. I have a couple of friends and senior family who use gmail. And I talked them away from facebook, so I can't ask this as well (otherwise, I would come across as unaccommodating).
                            But also my friends and family would never use AI to write to me. Would they??
                            oh God, I hope not. If they ever felt they wanted to, then I should def finally visit them and help them clear out their garage.

                            @briankrebs

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                            • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                              Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                              #darkpatterns

                              NatN This user is from outside of this forum
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                              Nat
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #59

                              @briankrebs As of today, Gmail is also popping up AI summaries of my emails in the app.

                              Ugh I've been meaning to change servers and get the fuck away from Google but with ADHD and a lot of other life stressors I keep putting it off. Aaaaand now it's definitely time.

                              I know about proton mail, where was that list of all the other replacements for Google services? Google calendar is one I'm very much tied to...

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                              • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                                #darkpatterns

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                                OldGeek
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #60

                                @briankrebs I used to unlock my phone without my glasses on, but there are too many want to try/turn on Gemini buttons every effing screen it seems. So always have to have them on, but I'm sure someday I will accidently accept...

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                                • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                  Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                                  #darkpatterns

                                  Michael ☕️M This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  Michael ☕️
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #61

                                  @briankrebs
                                  #Microsoft #Consent #UX

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                                  • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                    Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                                    #darkpatterns

                                    Yoshimatsu ✅🇺🇸 🇺🇦Y This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    Yoshimatsu ✅🇺🇸 🇺🇦
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #62

                                    @briankrebs One would have to be a total moron to let bozos compose their emails. But, then again, I guess there are many total morons.

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                                    • Michael ☕️M Michael ☕️

                                      @briankrebs
                                      #Microsoft #Consent #UX

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                                      Ministerofimpediments
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #63

                                      @mcpinson @briankrebs
                                      Understands?
                                      Absolutely.
                                      Cares?
                                      Well…

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                                      • NatN Nat

                                        @briankrebs As of today, Gmail is also popping up AI summaries of my emails in the app.

                                        Ugh I've been meaning to change servers and get the fuck away from Google but with ADHD and a lot of other life stressors I keep putting it off. Aaaaand now it's definitely time.

                                        I know about proton mail, where was that list of all the other replacements for Google services? Google calendar is one I'm very much tied to...

                                        R FR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        R F
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #64

                                        @nat @briankrebs tuta is a good alternative, too

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                                        • Michael ☕️M Michael ☕️

                                          @briankrebs
                                          #Microsoft #Consent #UX

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                                          rickf
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #65

                                          @mcpinson @briankrebs

                                          oooof, brilliant.

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