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Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini.

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  • diana 🏳️‍⚧️🦋🌱D diana 🏳️‍⚧️🦋🌱

    @briankrebs

    and this is why I am going back to the 1990's style email server, spool, and a terminal window client that reads text. Just like the old Unix days as K&R intended.

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    loStronzoRocco
    wrote on last edited by
    #39

    @dianea @briankrebs Text only is the way. I was actually talking about the benefits of reading text only email with a friend whose company wanted better formatting in their html based emails. Yeah. Fuck that, text lines up perfectly and doesn’t need anything fancy. Simple does not mean deprecated or useless.

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    • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

      Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

      #darkpatterns

      LΞX/NØVΛ 🇪🇺L This user is from outside of this forum
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      LΞX/NØVΛ 🇪🇺
      wrote on last edited by
      #40

      @briankrebs no the X must be a "ask me again tomorrow "

      Continue mean enable it but do not make a demo,

      Try it now is enable it and make a demo

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      • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

        Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

        #darkpatterns

        Wendizen 🇺🇦W This user is from outside of this forum
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        Wendizen 🇺🇦
        wrote on last edited by
        #41

        @briankrebs I like the humaning part, where my brain has to do things. So GFY, Gemini.

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        • LΞX/NØVΛ 🇪🇺L LΞX/NØVΛ 🇪🇺

          @briankrebs no the X must be a "ask me again tomorrow "

          Continue mean enable it but do not make a demo,

          Try it now is enable it and make a demo

          ScoldyFingerWaggerH This user is from outside of this forum
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          ScoldyFingerWagger
          wrote on last edited by
          #42

          @lexinova @briankrebs
          All that little X means is "Hide this dialog"!

          It has no bearing on the contents of that dialog.

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          • ScoldyFingerWaggerH ScoldyFingerWagger

            @lexinova @briankrebs
            All that little X means is "Hide this dialog"!

            It has no bearing on the contents of that dialog.

            LΞX/NØVΛ 🇪🇺L This user is from outside of this forum
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            LΞX/NØVΛ 🇪🇺
            wrote on last edited by
            #43

            @HereToChewGum @briankrebs in my case it was a sarcasm, to say their : Maybe / Yes / Yes is a dark pattern

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            • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

              Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

              #darkpatterns

              Paul_IPv6P This user is from outside of this forum
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              Paul_IPv6
              wrote on last edited by
              #44

              @briankrebs

              at least they're honest that it composes "confidently", not "correctly"...

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              • LΞX/NØVΛ 🇪🇺L LΞX/NØVΛ 🇪🇺

                @HereToChewGum @briankrebs in my case it was a sarcasm, to say their : Maybe / Yes / Yes is a dark pattern

                ScoldyFingerWaggerH This user is from outside of this forum
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                ScoldyFingerWagger
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                #45

                @lexinova @briankrebs

                You could be inadvertently right tho. It can mean any of those depending in the case.

                If I click on a result from a search engine and I get confronted by a similarly confusing dialog I never know which opton to take.

                So recently I have been choosing to just close the tab...

                It would be nice to have a R-click menu option to block that domain from the results of future searches.Is there an add-on for that?

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                • Paul Chambers🚧P Paul Chambers🚧

                  @briankrebs You get the same type nag notification, with the elusive and unclear button naming and choices, for other Google products, like Photos and Home, when they add Gemini features. @MsMerope @kahomono

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                  MsMerope
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                  #46

                  @paul @briankrebs @kahomono

                  ugh... fortunately I have to use gmail. Both work and the volunteer group I help run use gmail.

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                  • Duckbilled Plattypus.P Duckbilled Plattypus.

                    @briankrebs I recently got a business email using a term that is a notorious red flag lawsuit bait. I emailed the sender to politely point it out. They were horrified and admitted AI re-wrote it when they asked AI to make it 'more approachable, nicer.' They forgot to add "and 100% compliant with all laws and regulations."

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                    spv
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                    #47

                    @pattykimura @briankrebs out of curiosity, i'm curious what the term was?

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                    • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                      Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                      #darkpatterns

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                      Sam Kurth
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #48

                      @briankrebs I started getting these today, on my "business" account (family) the drive to upgrade to a better version has been going on for months.

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                      • MsMeropeM MsMerope

                        @dianea @briankrebs

                        bring back Eudora!!!

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                        Raven Onthill
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                        #49

                        @MsMerope @dianea @briankrebs thunderbird is still around

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                        • Raven OnthillR Raven Onthill

                          @MsMerope @dianea @briankrebs thunderbird is still around

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                          MsMerope
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                          #50

                          @ravenonthill @dianea @briankrebs

                          It might be nap time
                          I wacky parsed that as:

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                          • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                            Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                            #darkpatterns

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                            Chris Adams
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                            #51

                            @briankrebs this is why I switched to Fastmail. Google's not going to stop pushing Gmail in unfortunate directions until they have a completely different promotion culture.

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                            • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                              Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                              #darkpatterns

                              Dave bauerD This user is from outside of this forum
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                              Dave bauer
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                              #52

                              @briankrebs The concept is wild, are you confident or do you need help writing the email?

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                              • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                                #darkpatterns

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                                R4D10 411310947HY
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                                #53

                                @briankrebs classic tech "innovation," tactic. If they don't want it... Force them to use it.

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                                • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                  Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                                  #darkpatterns

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                                  Thea
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #54

                                  @briankrebs I have smart features & personalization disabled to turn off Gemini and I STILL get this message. Evil.

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                                  • spvS spv

                                    @pattykimura @briankrebs out of curiosity, i'm curious what the term was?

                                    Duckbilled Plattypus.P This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    Duckbilled Plattypus.
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #55

                                    @spv

                                    "good fit" vis a vis advertising employment preferences without directly naming acceptable qualifying required work-related attributes like "collaborative" or "detailed-oriented" or "timely" to explain context. This is because "good fit" can be (has been) used as an unlawful way to exclude qualified candidates who do not share race or gender or religion etc. attributes of the majority employed, ie "fit in".

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                                    • Duckbilled Plattypus.P Duckbilled Plattypus.

                                      @spv

                                      "good fit" vis a vis advertising employment preferences without directly naming acceptable qualifying required work-related attributes like "collaborative" or "detailed-oriented" or "timely" to explain context. This is because "good fit" can be (has been) used as an unlawful way to exclude qualified candidates who do not share race or gender or religion etc. attributes of the majority employed, ie "fit in".

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                                      spv
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #56

                                      @pattykimura interesting! thank you 😛

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                                      • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                        Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                                        #darkpatterns

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                                        segfault cult
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                                        @briankrebs it's always a tough choice between continuing and continuing.

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                                        • gardengeekG gardengeek

                                          @multisn8

                                          I did! when seeing this screenshot, my first thought was: huh, I wonder how confidential this really is?? I was confident about my initial read.

                                          Also, does this mean that some (many? most??) emails I receive from gmail accounts will be written by AI? I'm sorry, but I do not spend my time reading AI-generated mail. Boycott in both directions (sending and receiving from gmail).

                                          @briankrebs

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                                          gardengeek
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                                          #58

                                          @multisn8

                                          sorry, I don't mean boycott in the receiving direction.. I have a couple of friends and senior family who use gmail. And I talked them away from facebook, so I can't ask this as well (otherwise, I would come across as unaccommodating).
                                          But also my friends and family would never use AI to write to me. Would they??
                                          oh God, I hope not. If they ever felt they wanted to, then I should def finally visit them and help them clear out their garage.

                                          @briankrebs

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