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  3. Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini.

Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini.

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  • Paul Chambers🚧P Paul Chambers🚧

    @kahomono You still get the nag screens every time they release a new feature and every now and then a nag screen to turn Gemini on. @briankrebs

    MsMeropeM This user is from outside of this forum
    MsMeropeM This user is from outside of this forum
    MsMerope
    wrote on last edited by
    #34

    @paul @kahomono @briankrebs

    yup - I turned all that crap off as soon as I found out I could do so and **then** when I started getting those screen nags I went back and rechecked my settings: all the smart 💩 still set to off.

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    • MsMeropeM MsMerope

      @paul @kahomono @briankrebs

      yup - I turned all that crap off as soon as I found out I could do so and **then** when I started getting those screen nags I went back and rechecked my settings: all the smart 💩 still set to off.

      BrianKrebsB This user is from outside of this forum
      BrianKrebsB This user is from outside of this forum
      BrianKrebs
      wrote on last edited by
      #35

      @MsMerope @paul @kahomono just checked and yep that's all turned off in my profile as well.

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      • diana 🏳️‍⚧️🦋🌱D diana 🏳️‍⚧️🦋🌱

        @briankrebs

        and this is why I am going back to the 1990's style email server, spool, and a terminal window client that reads text. Just like the old Unix days as K&R intended.

        MsMeropeM This user is from outside of this forum
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        MsMerope
        wrote on last edited by
        #36

        @dianea @briankrebs

        bring back Eudora!!!

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        • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

          @MsMerope @paul @kahomono just checked and yep that's all turned off in my profile as well.

          Paul Chambers🚧P This user is from outside of this forum
          Paul Chambers🚧P This user is from outside of this forum
          Paul Chambers🚧
          wrote on last edited by
          #37

          @briankrebs You get the same type nag notification, with the elusive and unclear button naming and choices, for other Google products, like Photos and Home, when they add Gemini features. @MsMerope @kahomono

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          • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

            Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

            #darkpatterns

            Duckbilled Plattypus.P This user is from outside of this forum
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            Duckbilled Plattypus.
            wrote on last edited by
            #38

            @briankrebs I recently got a business email using a term that is a notorious red flag lawsuit bait. I emailed the sender to politely point it out. They were horrified and admitted AI re-wrote it when they asked AI to make it 'more approachable, nicer.' They forgot to add "and 100% compliant with all laws and regulations."

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            • diana 🏳️‍⚧️🦋🌱D diana 🏳️‍⚧️🦋🌱

              @briankrebs

              and this is why I am going back to the 1990's style email server, spool, and a terminal window client that reads text. Just like the old Unix days as K&R intended.

              loStronzoRoccoD This user is from outside of this forum
              loStronzoRoccoD This user is from outside of this forum
              loStronzoRocco
              wrote on last edited by
              #39

              @dianea @briankrebs Text only is the way. I was actually talking about the benefits of reading text only email with a friend whose company wanted better formatting in their html based emails. Yeah. Fuck that, text lines up perfectly and doesn’t need anything fancy. Simple does not mean deprecated or useless.

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              • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                #darkpatterns

                LΞX/NØVΛ 🇪🇺L This user is from outside of this forum
                LΞX/NØVΛ 🇪🇺L This user is from outside of this forum
                LΞX/NØVΛ 🇪🇺
                wrote on last edited by
                #40

                @briankrebs no the X must be a "ask me again tomorrow "

                Continue mean enable it but do not make a demo,

                Try it now is enable it and make a demo

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                • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                  Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                  #darkpatterns

                  Wendizen 🇺🇦W This user is from outside of this forum
                  Wendizen 🇺🇦W This user is from outside of this forum
                  Wendizen 🇺🇦
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #41

                  @briankrebs I like the humaning part, where my brain has to do things. So GFY, Gemini.

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                  • LΞX/NØVΛ 🇪🇺L LΞX/NØVΛ 🇪🇺

                    @briankrebs no the X must be a "ask me again tomorrow "

                    Continue mean enable it but do not make a demo,

                    Try it now is enable it and make a demo

                    ScoldyFingerWaggerH This user is from outside of this forum
                    ScoldyFingerWaggerH This user is from outside of this forum
                    ScoldyFingerWagger
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #42

                    @lexinova @briankrebs
                    All that little X means is "Hide this dialog"!

                    It has no bearing on the contents of that dialog.

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                    • ScoldyFingerWaggerH ScoldyFingerWagger

                      @lexinova @briankrebs
                      All that little X means is "Hide this dialog"!

                      It has no bearing on the contents of that dialog.

                      LΞX/NØVΛ 🇪🇺L This user is from outside of this forum
                      LΞX/NØVΛ 🇪🇺L This user is from outside of this forum
                      LΞX/NØVΛ 🇪🇺
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #43

                      @HereToChewGum @briankrebs in my case it was a sarcasm, to say their : Maybe / Yes / Yes is a dark pattern

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                      • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                        Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                        #darkpatterns

                        Paul_IPv6P This user is from outside of this forum
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                        Paul_IPv6
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #44

                        @briankrebs

                        at least they're honest that it composes "confidently", not "correctly"...

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                        • LΞX/NØVΛ 🇪🇺L LΞX/NØVΛ 🇪🇺

                          @HereToChewGum @briankrebs in my case it was a sarcasm, to say their : Maybe / Yes / Yes is a dark pattern

                          ScoldyFingerWaggerH This user is from outside of this forum
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                          ScoldyFingerWagger
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #45

                          @lexinova @briankrebs

                          You could be inadvertently right tho. It can mean any of those depending in the case.

                          If I click on a result from a search engine and I get confronted by a similarly confusing dialog I never know which opton to take.

                          So recently I have been choosing to just close the tab...

                          It would be nice to have a R-click menu option to block that domain from the results of future searches.Is there an add-on for that?

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                          • Paul Chambers🚧P Paul Chambers🚧

                            @briankrebs You get the same type nag notification, with the elusive and unclear button naming and choices, for other Google products, like Photos and Home, when they add Gemini features. @MsMerope @kahomono

                            MsMeropeM This user is from outside of this forum
                            MsMeropeM This user is from outside of this forum
                            MsMerope
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #46

                            @paul @briankrebs @kahomono

                            ugh... fortunately I have to use gmail. Both work and the volunteer group I help run use gmail.

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                            • Duckbilled Plattypus.P Duckbilled Plattypus.

                              @briankrebs I recently got a business email using a term that is a notorious red flag lawsuit bait. I emailed the sender to politely point it out. They were horrified and admitted AI re-wrote it when they asked AI to make it 'more approachable, nicer.' They forgot to add "and 100% compliant with all laws and regulations."

                              spvS This user is from outside of this forum
                              spvS This user is from outside of this forum
                              spv
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #47

                              @pattykimura @briankrebs out of curiosity, i'm curious what the term was?

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                              • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                                #darkpatterns

                                Sam KurthS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                Sam Kurth
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #48

                                @briankrebs I started getting these today, on my "business" account (family) the drive to upgrade to a better version has been going on for months.

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                                • MsMeropeM MsMerope

                                  @dianea @briankrebs

                                  bring back Eudora!!!

                                  Raven OnthillR This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Raven OnthillR This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Raven Onthill
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #49

                                  @MsMerope @dianea @briankrebs thunderbird is still around

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                                  • Raven OnthillR Raven Onthill

                                    @MsMerope @dianea @briankrebs thunderbird is still around

                                    MsMeropeM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    MsMerope
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #50

                                    @ravenonthill @dianea @briankrebs

                                    It might be nap time
                                    I wacky parsed that as:

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                                    • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                      Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                                      #darkpatterns

                                      Chris AdamsA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      Chris Adams
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #51

                                      @briankrebs this is why I switched to Fastmail. Google's not going to stop pushing Gmail in unfortunate directions until they have a completely different promotion culture.

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                                      • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                        Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                                        #darkpatterns

                                        Dave bauerD This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Dave bauerD This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Dave bauer
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #52

                                        @briankrebs The concept is wild, are you confident or do you need help writing the email?

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                                        • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                          Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                                          #darkpatterns

                                          R4D10 411310947HYR This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          R4D10 411310947HY
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #53

                                          @briankrebs classic tech "innovation," tactic. If they don't want it... Force them to use it.

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