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  • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

    Actions speak louder than words.

    I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

    Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

    A frontal attack to our #privacy.

    Stupid, no?

    @EUCommission

    DMTomD This user is from outside of this forum
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    DMTom
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    #14

    @jdelacueva @EUCommission my knowledge is at least 10/15 years old, but this might be not your bank’s stupid requirement, it’s one of Visa’s or Mastercard’s. I had to be certified by Visa/Mastercad/Amex to do eft interfaces, not by banks. And when specific transactions were declined I had to contact specific departments and read pages of docs till I find the clause that says exactly the opposite than they were telling me for several days…

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    • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

      Actions speak louder than words.

      I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

      Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

      A frontal attack to our #privacy.

      Stupid, no?

      @EUCommission

      Jacobo Da Riva MuñozJ This user is from outside of this forum
      Jacobo Da Riva MuñozJ This user is from outside of this forum
      Jacobo Da Riva Muñoz
      wrote last edited by
      #15

      @jdelacueva @EUCommission use this in other platforms such as Linux phones (PostmarketOS, UBTouch, SailfishOS...) is science fiction.

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      • Iván Sánchez OrtegaI Iván Sánchez Ortega

        @jdelacueva @EUCommission So in the hypothetical case I'd like to see the source code of that application to see why and how it uses google services, what would be the appropriate bureaucratic way to request it?

        GreatLakeTroutG This user is from outside of this forum
        GreatLakeTroutG This user is from outside of this forum
        GreatLakeTrout
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        #16

        @IvanSanchez @jdelacueva @EUCommission

        Wait I thought the EU was trying to separate itself from US tech, that is what all their politicians are saying……….oh wait I see My error now.

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        • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

          Actions speak louder than words.

          I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

          Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

          A frontal attack to our #privacy.

          Stupid, no?

          @EUCommission

          Marco MolteniP This user is from outside of this forum
          Marco MolteniP This user is from outside of this forum
          Marco Molteni
          wrote last edited by
          #17

          @jdelacueva @EUCommission

          Is this "EU Login app" the following:

          > The EU Login app is developed by the European Commission to facilitate your day-to-day Multi-factor authentication for many EU applications and services.

          from: https://trusted-digital-identity.europa.eu/creating-managing-and-using-your-eu-login-account/eu-login-mobile-application_en

          ?

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          • Mensch, MarinaE Mensch, Marina

            @jdelacueva @EUCommission Pls consider installing Google Play on your Google avoiding system Those who write these texts don't know anything about people and phones, or was it A.I. ???

            Max L.M This user is from outside of this forum
            Max L.M This user is from outside of this forum
            Max L.
            wrote last edited by
            #18

            @energisch_ @jdelacueva @EUCommission It's not that they don't know, they just don't care about minorities.

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            • AdelinaB Adelina

              @jdelacueva @EUCommission There should be other ways to login. I initially set up e-ID but my national agency did not let me use it, or said it shouldn't be used even though it was theoretically possible on the EU website. But i understand the trouble, when I have issues with some EU systems they tell me to use Google Chrome because that's what they optimise for, and I find that so frustrating.

              LukefromDCL This user is from outside of this forum
              LukefromDCL This user is from outside of this forum
              LukefromDC
              wrote last edited by
              #19

              @bluishgreen @jdelacueva @EUCommission What happens if you don't use any EU online portals at all? Can you still use an ATM wirh a bank issued card, and deal wirh bureaucratic things in person at a physical office?

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              • LukefromDCL LukefromDC

                @bluishgreen @jdelacueva @EUCommission What happens if you don't use any EU online portals at all? Can you still use an ATM wirh a bank issued card, and deal wirh bureaucratic things in person at a physical office?

                AdelinaB This user is from outside of this forum
                AdelinaB This user is from outside of this forum
                Adelina
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                #20

                @LukefromDC @jdelacueva @EUCommission It does not relate to that, using EU portals is mostly for applying for grants/research funding or some business services. I only really use to apply for funding. I don't have experience with other services but it is not related to banking or accessing basic services.

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                • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                  Actions speak louder than words.

                  I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                  Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                  A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                  Stupid, no?

                  @EUCommission

                  ĞÖKÜ👻👻™G This user is from outside of this forum
                  ĞÖKÜ👻👻™G This user is from outside of this forum
                  ĞÖKÜ👻👻™
                  wrote last edited by
                  #21

                  @jdelacueva mmm, install GPS (oldest version) then remove all permissions and cut all internet permissions (no background no wifi. So no data to GPS by doing this.. Then install ur EU app.

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                  • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                    Actions speak louder than words.

                    I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                    Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                    A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                    Stupid, no?

                    @EUCommission

                    Phil 📸P This user is from outside of this forum
                    Phil 📸P This user is from outside of this forum
                    Phil 📸
                    wrote last edited by
                    #22

                    @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                    Would it be possible to install Aurora Store on your LineageOS phone instead of Google Play Store?

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                    • Mensch, MarinaE Mensch, Marina

                      @jdelacueva @EUCommission Pls consider installing Google Play on your Google avoiding system Those who write these texts don't know anything about people and phones, or was it A.I. ???

                      divVerentD This user is from outside of this forum
                      divVerentD This user is from outside of this forum
                      divVerent
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                      #23
                      @energisch_@troet.cafe @jdelacueva@mastodon.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu Next time they will ask for Internet Explorer and 800x600.
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                      • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                        Actions speak louder than words.

                        I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                        Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                        A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                        Stupid, no?

                        @EUCommission

                        DECAYN This user is from outside of this forum
                        DECAYN This user is from outside of this forum
                        DECAY
                        wrote last edited by
                        #24

                        @jdelacueva @EUCommission That's pretty much all why I have an emulated android on my pc.

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                        • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                          Actions speak louder than words.

                          I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                          Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                          A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                          Stupid, no?

                          @EUCommission

                          The DoctorD This user is from outside of this forum
                          The DoctorD This user is from outside of this forum
                          The Doctor
                          wrote last edited by
                          #25

                          @jdelacueva @EUCommission No. Working according to plan.

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                          • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                            Actions speak louder than words.

                            I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                            Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                            A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                            Stupid, no?

                            @EUCommission

                            nynN This user is from outside of this forum
                            nynN This user is from outside of this forum
                            nyn
                            wrote last edited by
                            #26

                            @jdelacueva @EUCommission I wanted to test, if MicroG is enough as Google Play Services replacement but I couldn't since it detected my device is rooted and therefor blocks it for "security reasons"

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                            • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                              Actions speak louder than words.

                              I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                              Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                              A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                              Stupid, no?

                              @EUCommission

                              Ax=bM This user is from outside of this forum
                              Ax=bM This user is from outside of this forum
                              Ax=b
                              wrote last edited by
                              #27

                              @jdelacueva @EUCommission olha o que vc tava falando hoje mais cedo @cadusilva , não é só aqui 🙃

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                              • Ax=bM Ax=b

                                @jdelacueva @EUCommission olha o que vc tava falando hoje mais cedo @cadusilva , não é só aqui 🙃

                                Cadu Silva :pe_sqr:C This user is from outside of this forum
                                Cadu Silva :pe_sqr:C This user is from outside of this forum
                                Cadu Silva :pe_sqr:
                                wrote last edited by
                                #28

                                @melissawm @jdelacueva @EUCommission os governos à mercê de empresas malignas estadunidenses, e arrastando os cidadãos.

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                                • Phil 📸P Phil 📸

                                  @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                                  Would it be possible to install Aurora Store on your LineageOS phone instead of Google Play Store?

                                  ĞÖKÜ👻👻™G This user is from outside of this forum
                                  ĞÖKÜ👻👻™G This user is from outside of this forum
                                  ĞÖKÜ👻👻™
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #29

                                  @phil @jdelacueva @EUCommission yes. Just install from fdroid

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                                  • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                    Actions speak louder than words.

                                    I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                    Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                    A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                    Stupid, no?

                                    @EUCommission

                                    B This user is from outside of this forum
                                    B This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Dr. BauBauS
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #30

                                    @jdelacueva @EUCommission File a complain, and use as much sarcasm as possible.

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                                    • Mira :neocat_flag_nb:M Mira :neocat_flag_nb:

                                      @jdelacueva@mastodon.social @EUCommission@ec.social-network.europa.eu is Google Play really the only way to use two-factor authentication there? not even a FIDO token or some other alternative?

                                      GuacamOlé 🥑G This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      GuacamOlé 🥑
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                                      #31

                                      @mira @EUCommission @jdelacueva i can even use 2FA in Microsoft Teams without Google vor MS apps.

                                      Its just lazyness i guess

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                                      • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                        Actions speak louder than words.

                                        I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                        Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                        A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                        Stupid, no?

                                        @EUCommission

                                        Z This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Z This user is from outside of this forum
                                        zsapi
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #32

                                        @EUCommission
                                        Hey there EU commission. As a Hungarian citizen I must ask, could we not do this? This is a short sighted and arbitrary limitation that does not add to security but strengthens our dependence on the US.

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                                        • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                          Actions speak louder than words.

                                          I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                          Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                          A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                          Stupid, no?

                                          @EUCommission

                                          AndréA This user is from outside of this forum
                                          AndréA This user is from outside of this forum
                                          André
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #33

                                          @jdelacueva the @EUCommission needs to mandate opening up mobile Phone manufacturers to third party integrity verification Services (and fund initial european companies to bootstrap them), so security related apps don't need to rely on Google/Apple integrity services

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