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The US is threatening #Canada (again) if we don't buy their F-35s.

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  • Brian GordonE Brian Gordon

    The US is threatening #Canada (again) if we don't buy their F-35s. Here's what Denmark said about the ones they bought, and regret buying:

    "They're in for repairs about half the time or even more," he said, "so the Americans have all the power of actually destroying our air force just by shutting down [parts] supplies."

    #F35 #cdnpoli

    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/norad-canada-us-f35-9.7059800

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    @elasticsoul Buy our stuff or we'll destroy you. How completely in keeping with US history.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perry_Expedition

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    • Brian GordonE Brian Gordon

      The US is threatening #Canada (again) if we don't buy their F-35s. Here's what Denmark said about the ones they bought, and regret buying:

      "They're in for repairs about half the time or even more," he said, "so the Americans have all the power of actually destroying our air force just by shutting down [parts] supplies."

      #F35 #cdnpoli

      https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/norad-canada-us-f35-9.7059800

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      @elasticsoul I think the word for that would be โ€œextortionโ€œ

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      • RichRARobiR RichRARobi

        @elasticsoul

        The f-35 is
        overweight ,
        overcomplex,
        overpriced
        and
        made in #USA

        DO NOT BUY
        Buy #european

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        @RichRARobi @elasticsoul Buy what exactly? There is no European stealth fighter jet. It will take decades until FCAS is ready for deployment, and it's unclear if FCAS will have any meaningful stealth capabilities.

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        • Pixelcode ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆP Pixelcode ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ

          @RichRARobi @elasticsoul Buy what exactly? There is no European stealth fighter jet. It will take decades until FCAS is ready for deployment, and it's unclear if FCAS will have any meaningful stealth capabilities.

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          @pixelcode @elasticsoul

          Much as I hate the very idea of drone warfare, drones used by and against #ukraine are causing more injuries than any other type of weapon.
          A drone can stop a tank, sink a warship, or a submarine, destroy a bunker.

          Unfortunately drones are the future.

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          • Brian GordonE Brian Gordon

            The US is threatening #Canada (again) if we don't buy their F-35s. Here's what Denmark said about the ones they bought, and regret buying:

            "They're in for repairs about half the time or even more," he said, "so the Americans have all the power of actually destroying our air force just by shutting down [parts] supplies."

            #F35 #cdnpoli

            https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/norad-canada-us-f35-9.7059800

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            @elasticsoul We should not buy shit from USA. Zero trust.

            #BoycottUSA #SanctionUSA

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            • Dana das Grau ๐Ÿง™๐Ÿป๐Ÿงโ€โ™‚๏ธD Dana das Grau ๐Ÿง™๐Ÿป๐Ÿงโ€โ™‚๏ธ

              @elasticsoul I think the word for that would be โ€œextortionโ€œ

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              @DanadasGrau @elasticsoul
              Word of the year.

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              • Brian GordonE Brian Gordon

                The US is threatening #Canada (again) if we don't buy their F-35s. Here's what Denmark said about the ones they bought, and regret buying:

                "They're in for repairs about half the time or even more," he said, "so the Americans have all the power of actually destroying our air force just by shutting down [parts] supplies."

                #F35 #cdnpoli

                https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/norad-canada-us-f35-9.7059800

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                @elasticsoul perhaps US engineers should vacation in Denmark and help the Danes work on a plan for engineering and building their own parts plants for those airframes. I'm going to adjust a thought. I bet those engineers all have passports.

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                • Brian GordonE Brian Gordon

                  The US is threatening #Canada (again) if we don't buy their F-35s. Here's what Denmark said about the ones they bought, and regret buying:

                  "They're in for repairs about half the time or even more," he said, "so the Americans have all the power of actually destroying our air force just by shutting down [parts] supplies."

                  #F35 #cdnpoli

                  https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/norad-canada-us-f35-9.7059800

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                  @elasticsoul That was always the point. It's a basic part of their war fighting strategy.

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                  • Brian GordonE Brian Gordon

                    The US is threatening #Canada (again) if we don't buy their F-35s. Here's what Denmark said about the ones they bought, and regret buying:

                    "They're in for repairs about half the time or even more," he said, "so the Americans have all the power of actually destroying our air force just by shutting down [parts] supplies."

                    #F35 #cdnpoli

                    https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/norad-canada-us-f35-9.7059800

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                    @elasticsoul

                    We shouldn't buy any equipment from them

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                    • Molly in MissouriW Molly in Missouri

                      @Ravongesย @elasticsoulย but, you were lol You can rent the airplane as a service, but you don't actually own it unless you can fix it without permission

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                      @whatzaname @Ravonges @elasticsoul and thatโ€™s assuming there isnโ€™t a built in kill code that can brick them. The most advanced fighter in the world loses every time when it canโ€™t take off.

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                      • Brian GordonE Brian Gordon

                        The US is threatening #Canada (again) if we don't buy their F-35s. Here's what Denmark said about the ones they bought, and regret buying:

                        "They're in for repairs about half the time or even more," he said, "so the Americans have all the power of actually destroying our air force just by shutting down [parts] supplies."

                        #F35 #cdnpoli

                        https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/norad-canada-us-f35-9.7059800

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                        @elasticsoul

                        Sore losers is what you would call people like that. And for sure this is what Donald J. Trump is, a sore loserโ€ฆ

                        Oh, and a convicted felon.

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                        • Brian GordonE Brian Gordon

                          The US is threatening #Canada (again) if we don't buy their F-35s. Here's what Denmark said about the ones they bought, and regret buying:

                          "They're in for repairs about half the time or even more," he said, "so the Americans have all the power of actually destroying our air force just by shutting down [parts] supplies."

                          #F35 #cdnpoli

                          https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/norad-canada-us-f35-9.7059800

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                          @elasticsoul Are you guys *still *grumpy about the CF-105? ๐Ÿ™‚

                          Looks like your choices are work with the French coalition on FCAS or work with the Brits on GCAP.

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                          • Brian GordonE Brian Gordon

                            The US is threatening #Canada (again) if we don't buy their F-35s. Here's what Denmark said about the ones they bought, and regret buying:

                            "They're in for repairs about half the time or even more," he said, "so the Americans have all the power of actually destroying our air force just by shutting down [parts] supplies."

                            #F35 #cdnpoli

                            https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/norad-canada-us-f35-9.7059800

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                            @elasticsoul @EricLawton Warning of โ€œconsequences to the defence pactโ€ sounds exactly like gangster language. The US now only operates with threats and โ€˜preemptiveโ€™ strikes. Canada should think carefully about buying any equipment from a seller that can and will disable it at will.

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                              @RichRARobi @elasticsoul So, fighter jets clearly cannot be replaced by drones, but even F-16s and MiGs must keep away from the front lines in order to avoid being shot down themselves. This also limits the range of air-launched Ukrainian cruise missiles dramatically.

                              If we provided stealth fighter jets to Ukraine, they could avoid russian air defence without problems, potentially even flying into russian airspace. The US' strike on Iran was conducted entirely with stealth fighter jets and long-range stealth bombers and would not have been possible with conventional aircraft.

                              Ukraine needs that capability to destroy russian air bases; and Europe needs it to maintain its air superiority if russia attacks.

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                              • Brian GordonE Brian Gordon

                                The US is threatening #Canada (again) if we don't buy their F-35s. Here's what Denmark said about the ones they bought, and regret buying:

                                "They're in for repairs about half the time or even more," he said, "so the Americans have all the power of actually destroying our air force just by shutting down [parts] supplies."

                                #F35 #cdnpoli

                                https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/norad-canada-us-f35-9.7059800

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                                @elasticsoul We need to Run from the F35 and go with the Gripen . The Americans can go and play with themselves. I feel sorry for Denmark buying US crap.

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                                • Brian GordonE Brian Gordon

                                  The US is threatening #Canada (again) if we don't buy their F-35s. Here's what Denmark said about the ones they bought, and regret buying:

                                  "They're in for repairs about half the time or even more," he said, "so the Americans have all the power of actually destroying our air force just by shutting down [parts] supplies."

                                  #F35 #cdnpoli

                                  https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/norad-canada-us-f35-9.7059800

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                                  @elasticsoul check out the film Nae Pasarรกn when Scottish Rolls-Royce engineers refused to repair the dictator Pinochetโ€™s fighter jets.

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                                    @Rickd6 @elasticsoul the UK is so stupid they have nuclear arms which can only be used with the permission of the US. And to add insult to injury Scotland is in the front line because we are the base for these missiles.

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                                    • William B PeckhamW William B Peckham

                                      @elasticsoul perhaps US engineers should vacation in Denmark and help the Danes work on a plan for engineering and building their own parts plants for those airframes. I'm going to adjust a thought. I bet those engineers all have passports.

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                                      @wbpeckham @elasticsoul I would still steer clear. All these aircraft need is a back door on the computer management systems and they could all be rendered completely useless by a keyboard in Kentucky

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                                      • Pixelcode ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆP Pixelcode ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ

                                        @RichRARobi @elasticsoul So, fighter jets clearly cannot be replaced by drones, but even F-16s and MiGs must keep away from the front lines in order to avoid being shot down themselves. This also limits the range of air-launched Ukrainian cruise missiles dramatically.

                                        If we provided stealth fighter jets to Ukraine, they could avoid russian air defence without problems, potentially even flying into russian airspace. The US' strike on Iran was conducted entirely with stealth fighter jets and long-range stealth bombers and would not have been possible with conventional aircraft.

                                        Ukraine needs that capability to destroy russian air bases; and Europe needs it to maintain its air superiority if russia attacks.

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                                        @pixelcode @elasticsoul

                                        Fair point, I had a quick look on interweb, and nearest are possibly the Rafale, or Typhoon, there are some others. None are stealth, but have to note that with external ordnance, neither is f-35

                                        It is probably the big bomber that is really stealth, and all we have is an ancient Lancaster !! They might just not shoot it down out of surprise!

                                        Cruise missiles needed? Ukraine are clever, how about a locally grown cardboard stealth cruise missile?

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                                        • RichRARobiR RichRARobi

                                          @pixelcode @elasticsoul

                                          Fair point, I had a quick look on interweb, and nearest are possibly the Rafale, or Typhoon, there are some others. None are stealth, but have to note that with external ordnance, neither is f-35

                                          It is probably the big bomber that is really stealth, and all we have is an ancient Lancaster !! They might just not shoot it down out of surprise!

                                          Cruise missiles needed? Ukraine are clever, how about a locally grown cardboard stealth cruise missile?

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                                          @RichRARobi @elasticsoul I think the German TAURUS cruise missile is somewhat stealthy (not entirely sure). Though, for cruise missiles, flying low and adapting the flight path (like TAURUS does) may already be sufficient to avoid air defence ๐Ÿคท

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