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  3. It always makes me sad when another fedi user - and, in my experience, it is always a woman - says that they feel unsafe posting here, because of replies they get.

It always makes me sad when another fedi user - and, in my experience, it is always a woman - says that they feel unsafe posting here, because of replies they get.

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  • Neil BrownN Neil Brown

    Every time I mention this, at least one man pops up to say that they would not want to follow a woman who chooses to restrict replies.

    So here, I have covered it in advance 🙂

    samiamsamS This user is from outside of this forum
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    #5

    @neil

    a problem that solves itself LOL

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    • Neil BrownN Neil Brown

      It always makes me sad when another fedi user - and, in my experience, it is always a woman - says that they feel unsafe posting here, because of replies they get.

      Control over who can reply to a toot would be amazing, as a way to improve this without them needing to mute or block post-harm.

      Tony HoyleT This user is from outside of this forum
      Tony HoyleT This user is from outside of this forum
      Tony Hoyle
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      #6

      @neil
      I believe there is a plan to add something like followers only, but one problem is that servers that are not upgraded to a version that supports that flag wouldn't honour it.

      Not that it's a reason not to do it, but it'll take a while before it's effective.

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      • Tony HoyleT Tony Hoyle

        @neil
        I believe there is a plan to add something like followers only, but one problem is that servers that are not upgraded to a version that supports that flag wouldn't honour it.

        Not that it's a reason not to do it, but it'll take a while before it's effective.

        Neil BrownN This user is from outside of this forum
        Neil BrownN This user is from outside of this forum
        Neil Brown
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        #7

        @tony Yes, indeed.

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        • Neil BrownN Neil Brown

          It always makes me sad when another fedi user - and, in my experience, it is always a woman - says that they feel unsafe posting here, because of replies they get.

          Control over who can reply to a toot would be amazing, as a way to improve this without them needing to mute or block post-harm.

          PaulP This user is from outside of this forum
          PaulP This user is from outside of this forum
          Paul
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          #8

          @neil I would like it as well, not so much for restricting replies to my toots but being able to see 'ah this person only wants replies from mutuals' and therefore not sending a reply which at best won't be read and at worst will annoy.

          (I have come across accounts who want to restrict replies and there is no way to advertise this)

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          • Neil BrownN Neil Brown

            @tony Yes, indeed.

            Tony HoyleT This user is from outside of this forum
            Tony HoyleT This user is from outside of this forum
            Tony Hoyle
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            #9

            @neil
            https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/fep-5624-per-object-reply-control-policies/2723

            Bit technical, but it seems good people are on it.

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            • Tony HoyleT Tony Hoyle

              @neil
              I believe there is a plan to add something like followers only, but one problem is that servers that are not upgraded to a version that supports that flag wouldn't honour it.

              Not that it's a reason not to do it, but it'll take a while before it's effective.

              daltuxD This user is from outside of this forum
              daltuxD This user is from outside of this forum
              daltux
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              #10
              I guess it could be another fine #Snac feature, as you already can click a button to hide any post and all its present and future replies, so I believe it would not be hard to implement something like that in advance when you are posting a new activity. Then at least you could choose not to see replies... 🤔

              CC: @neil@mastodon.neilzone.co.uk
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              • Neil BrownN Neil Brown

                It always makes me sad when another fedi user - and, in my experience, it is always a woman - says that they feel unsafe posting here, because of replies they get.

                Control over who can reply to a toot would be amazing, as a way to improve this without them needing to mute or block post-harm.

                Sebastian CraneS This user is from outside of this forum
                Sebastian CraneS This user is from outside of this forum
                Sebastian Crane
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                #11

                @neil I don't really understand why the 'quotes' feature in Mastodon already has something like this, but basic replies don't. Seems like a missed opportunity.

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                • Neil BrownN This user is from outside of this forum
                  Neil BrownN This user is from outside of this forum
                  Neil Brown
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                  #12

                  @joriki That is visibility, not reply control.

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                  • Neil BrownN Neil Brown

                    Every time I mention this, at least one man pops up to say that they would not want to follow a woman who chooses to restrict replies.

                    So here, I have covered it in advance 🙂

                    CassandrichD This user is from outside of this forum
                    CassandrichD This user is from outside of this forum
                    Cassandrich
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                    #13

                    @neil Don't threaten us with a good time. 😂

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                    • Neil BrownN Neil Brown

                      It always makes me sad when another fedi user - and, in my experience, it is always a woman - says that they feel unsafe posting here, because of replies they get.

                      Control over who can reply to a toot would be amazing, as a way to improve this without them needing to mute or block post-harm.

                      Ev DelenE This user is from outside of this forum
                      Ev DelenE This user is from outside of this forum
                      Ev Delen
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                      #14

                      @neil

                      I just wanted to draw your attention to some some ways to manage the visibility of a post. Could your outline additional controls which could be established?

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                      • Ev DelenE Ev Delen

                        @neil

                        I just wanted to draw your attention to some some ways to manage the visibility of a post. Could your outline additional controls which could be established?

                        Neil BrownN This user is from outside of this forum
                        Neil BrownN This user is from outside of this forum
                        Neil Brown
                        wrote last edited by
                        #15

                        @evdelen As you say, that is post visibility, not reply control.

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                        • Neil BrownN Neil Brown

                          It always makes me sad when another fedi user - and, in my experience, it is always a woman - says that they feel unsafe posting here, because of replies they get.

                          Control over who can reply to a toot would be amazing, as a way to improve this without them needing to mute or block post-harm.

                          Edelruth, PBS Passport HolderE This user is from outside of this forum
                          Edelruth, PBS Passport HolderE This user is from outside of this forum
                          Edelruth, PBS Passport Holder
                          wrote last edited by
                          #16

                          @neil

                          There is a word filter system, which is probably not the level of control you are proposing, but it is a real-time start.

                          I have the classic insults blocked, but, for cause, sadly.

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                          • Tony HoyleT Tony Hoyle

                            @neil
                            https://socialhub.activitypub.rocks/t/fep-5624-per-object-reply-control-policies/2723

                            Bit technical, but it seems good people are on it.

                            Scott FeeneyG This user is from outside of this forum
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                            Scott Feeney
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                            #17

                            @tony @neil At the end of the thread, someone mentions it got stalled for years. There's no prioritization by the Mastodon project. Another ActivityPub project, GoToSocial, went ahead and implemented it, although client support for the option is spotty.

                            Mastodon could at least make it so blocking someone hides their reply, when viewed on your own server; that fix was already written back in 2022, and they refuse to explain why they aren't shipping it. https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/pull/18468

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                            • Edelruth, PBS Passport HolderE Edelruth, PBS Passport Holder

                              @neil

                              There is a word filter system, which is probably not the level of control you are proposing, but it is a real-time start.

                              I have the classic insults blocked, but, for cause, sadly.

                              Neil BrownN This user is from outside of this forum
                              Neil BrownN This user is from outside of this forum
                              Neil Brown
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                              #18

                              @Edelruth Yes, I filter *a lot*.

                              As you say, a useful, tangential, measure.

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                              • Neil BrownN Neil Brown

                                It always makes me sad when another fedi user - and, in my experience, it is always a woman - says that they feel unsafe posting here, because of replies they get.

                                Control over who can reply to a toot would be amazing, as a way to improve this without them needing to mute or block post-harm.

                                Todd KnarrT This user is from outside of this forum
                                Todd KnarrT This user is from outside of this forum
                                Todd Knarr
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                                #19

                                @neil In account settings there's a followers-only option for reply privacy. That's probably what you want.

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                                • Todd KnarrT Todd Knarr

                                  @neil In account settings there's a followers-only option for reply privacy. That's probably what you want.

                                  Neil BrownN This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Neil BrownN This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Neil Brown
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #20

                                  @tknarr

                                  Hmm... What setting are you thinking of here, as it doesn't ring a bell?

                                  It doesn't solve the problem completely, but being able to restrict replies to people I follow would be a great start.

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                                  • Neil BrownN Neil Brown

                                    @tknarr

                                    Hmm... What setting are you thinking of here, as it doesn't ring a bell?

                                    It doesn't solve the problem completely, but being able to restrict replies to people I follow would be a great start.

                                    Neil BrownN This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Neil BrownN This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Neil Brown
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                                    #21

                                    @tknarr

                                    Ah, reply privacy, being the visibility level attached to a reply I make.

                                    No, that is something completely different to controlling what replies I allow to my toots.

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                                    • Tony HoyleT Tony Hoyle

                                      @neil
                                      I believe there is a plan to add something like followers only, but one problem is that servers that are not upgraded to a version that supports that flag wouldn't honour it.

                                      Not that it's a reason not to do it, but it'll take a while before it's effective.

                                      LeelooL This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      Leeloo
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                                      #22

                                      @tony @neil
                                      That problem exists for the whole protocol, though. A server can equally well ignore "mentioned only" and show the post on their "local" feed if it wants to.

                                      Thus the problem doesn't prevent implementing the feature any more than it prevents the whole fediverse.

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                                      • Neil BrownN This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Neil BrownN This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Neil Brown
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                                        @Natasha_Jay

                                        Yes, exactly!

                                        And, sure, people can follow whomever they want too.

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                                        • Neil BrownN Neil Brown

                                          @tknarr

                                          Ah, reply privacy, being the visibility level attached to a reply I make.

                                          No, that is something completely different to controlling what replies I allow to my toots.

                                          Todd KnarrT This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Todd KnarrT This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Todd Knarr
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                                          #24

                                          @neil Huh. I thought there was a separate one for replies to your post, not your replies. Sorry, apparently I was wrong.

                                          I also don't see anything for limiting visibiility to only those you follow, only to followers. There's an option whether or not to auto-approve followers, you can turn that off to give you control over who can follow you. That seems to be as far as it goes.

                                          Going to add my voice to the requests for more reply privacy options.

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