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Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

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  • Awk & shaM Awk & sha

    @kiri @sundogplanets you’re not missing anything; this is absolutely the problem with data centers, structures famously constrained by their ability to reject heat, in space, a place famous for its insulative properties. It’s stupid.

    Not to mention that data centers require maintenance and equipment replacement. This aspect of data centers is why companies decided not to put them in the ocean (where heat would be easier to reject). How do they think they’ll do maintenance? Or do the satellites just become trash after a few years?

    SammiS This user is from outside of this forum
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    Sammi
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    @kiri @sundogplanets @mmcknett Surely that is the point of doing it, they will break and he has to launch more to fill that gap. It ensures continual launches and hence profits

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    • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

      Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

      https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

      Comments due March 6.

      I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

      Humble Fan of Atty. WooB This user is from outside of this forum
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      Humble Fan of Atty. Woo
      wrote last edited by
      #42

      @sundogplanets

      what I personally want for my birthday on the 13th is for SpaceX or any large building to fall on Musk and end him.....I won't even ask for a Nobel Peace Prize if that were to happen. I will issue a small smile or two.....I yield back my time.

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      • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

        Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

        https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

        Comments due March 6.

        I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

        TehAppKillerT This user is from outside of this forum
        TehAppKillerT This user is from outside of this forum
        TehAppKiller
        wrote last edited by
        #43

        @sundogplanets That means to not comply with Police investigations and Courts orders (grok, grokipedia,...) worldwide through alternative SpaceX internet except by use of force. That means controlling Space launches. In addition to polluting our sky and the Space

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        • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

          Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

          https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

          Comments due March 6.

          I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

          MuodM This user is from outside of this forum
          MuodM This user is from outside of this forum
          Muod
          wrote last edited by
          #44

          @sundogplanets AI data centers project means the invasion of public space by one SpaceX!

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          • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

            Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

            https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

            Comments due March 6.

            I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

            jorikiJ This user is from outside of this forum
            jorikiJ This user is from outside of this forum
            joriki
            wrote last edited by
            #45

            @sundogplanets

            science fiction coming alive ...

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            • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

              Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

              https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

              Comments due March 6.

              I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

              klausfiendK This user is from outside of this forum
              klausfiendK This user is from outside of this forum
              klausfiend
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              #46

              @sundogplanets Any chance the guidelines for commenting when the FCC was mulling axing/reinstating Net Neutrality are still valid at this point?

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              • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

                https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

                Comments due March 6.

                I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

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                downbeatdan
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                #47

                @sundogplanets Thanks for the great talk tonight in Hamilton Dr Sam. Scary but enlightening... time to spread this widely.

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                • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                  Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

                  https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

                  Comments due March 6.

                  I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

                  Jean-Baptiste MailletJ This user is from outside of this forum
                  Jean-Baptiste MailletJ This user is from outside of this forum
                  Jean-Baptiste Maillet
                  wrote last edited by
                  #48

                  @sundogplanets plus space is not only a US thing (until some guy decide he wants a property title on it for some US thing). There is a higher authority for this.

                  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_law

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                  • James 🌈💜S This user is from outside of this forum
                    James 🌈💜S This user is from outside of this forum
                    James 🌈💜
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                    #49

                    @lexinova

                    Whilst SpaceX and OneWeb are "excited" abput satelite in 5G - its not actually deployed anywhere at all, yet. Just promises since 2020.

                    4G satelite systems are backhaul, and cover about 0.5% of deployed systems. The kind of places where bad cloud cover means you don't have satelite, either. Cat3 remote type places.

                    Musk will probably notice if we lost 4G sat, and make some pissy tweets. Most people won't even notice.

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                    • Nonya Bidniss :CIAverified: 🇺🇸N Nonya Bidniss :CIAverified: 🇺🇸

                      @sundogplanets Maybe that's what it's going to take to teach the world and especially the U.S. that the billionaires should have been loaded onto a rocket and shot right into the fucking sun

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                      Petra van Cronenburg
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                      #50

                      @Nonya_Bidniss better idea than Mars. More sustainable. 😁 @sundogplanets

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                      • Eric LawtonE Eric Lawton

                        @sundogplanets

                        I appreciate any Americans that submit a complaint, but who exactly gave an American regulatory body authority over the whole of low Earth orbit and beyond?

                        Colonial theft.

                        @PhoenixSerenity

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                        Petra van Cronenburg
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                        #51

                        @EricLawton 💯 @sundogplanets @PhoenixSerenity

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                        • bitB bit

                          @sundogplanets

                          Why would they even want AI datacenters in space? We haven't solved how to cool them without massive amounts of water down here on earth, how are they going to cool them up there? Some months back I read of someone else wanting to create the same datacenters in international waters. Is this just a new way for them to try to avoid legal liability? If that's the case, I wonder what kind of content they will generate up there.

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                          @bit

                          I believe, they have the idea that space is really cold, and their machines will need no cooling there.

                          @sundogplanets

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                          • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                            Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

                            https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

                            Comments due March 6.

                            I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

                            Andrew RichensA This user is from outside of this forum
                            Andrew RichensA This user is from outside of this forum
                            Andrew Richens
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                            #53

                            @sundogplanets Many thanks for sharing the link - I wasn't aware of his at all. Absolutely disgusting! I shall be submitting some 'developmental feedback' to the FCC!

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                            • Prof. Sam LawlerS Prof. Sam Lawler

                              Well, everyone, you can now submit a comment to let the FCC know what you think about SpaceX asking for 1 million satellites for "AI datacenters" whatever the fuck that means.

                              https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DA-26-113A1.pdf

                              Comments due March 6.

                              I am having a very hard time believing this is really happening. Fuck you, SpaceX, and fuck you, FCC. This is not regulation, this is a fucking joke, that will destroy our ability to use satellites for centuries.

                              tizilogicT This user is from outside of this forum
                              tizilogicT This user is from outside of this forum
                              tizilogic
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                              #54

                              @sundogplanets 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦

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                              • MinaM Mina

                                @bit

                                I believe, they have the idea that space is really cold, and their machines will need no cooling there.

                                @sundogplanets

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                                bit
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                                #55

                                @mina @sundogplanets

                                I read an article about this, and there was a discussion section, and someone there was making this very argument that space is cold so cooling won't be required, which I thought at the time made total sense. But then someone else brought up the fact the ISS actually has trouble cooling itself, because while yes space is cold, there is so little matter around, it remains very difficult to dissipate heat. So now I'm not so sure.

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                                • Eric LawtonE Eric Lawton

                                  @sundogplanets

                                  I appreciate any Americans that submit a complaint, but who exactly gave an American regulatory body authority over the whole of low Earth orbit and beyond?

                                  Colonial theft.

                                  @PhoenixSerenity

                                  SibylleS This user is from outside of this forum
                                  SibylleS This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Sibylle
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                                  #56

                                  @sundogplanets @PhoenixSerenity @EricLawton I think we - non US people - have to turn to our governments to tell them to stop this insanity.

                                  Not that I have much confidence in the swiss gov, tough...

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                                  • bitB bit

                                    @mina @sundogplanets

                                    I read an article about this, and there was a discussion section, and someone there was making this very argument that space is cold so cooling won't be required, which I thought at the time made total sense. But then someone else brought up the fact the ISS actually has trouble cooling itself, because while yes space is cold, there is so little matter around, it remains very difficult to dissipate heat. So now I'm not so sure.

                                    MinaM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    Mina
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                                    @bit

                                    That's the point.

                                    The only way to lose heat in space is through radiation.

                                    I guess, tech bros learn their physics from chatboxes.

                                    I also wonder, how they plan to protect their data centres from cosmic radiation.

                                    @sundogplanets

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                                    • MinaM Mina

                                      @bit

                                      That's the point.

                                      The only way to lose heat in space is through radiation.

                                      I guess, tech bros learn their physics from chatboxes.

                                      I also wonder, how they plan to protect their data centres from cosmic radiation.

                                      @sundogplanets

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                                      M Berberich
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                                      #58

                                      @mina @bit @sundogplanets

                                      They might not have learned anything and know nothing of physics.

                                      They might have asked ChatGPT.

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                                      • MinaM Mina

                                        @bit

                                        That's the point.

                                        The only way to lose heat in space is through radiation.

                                        I guess, tech bros learn their physics from chatboxes.

                                        I also wonder, how they plan to protect their data centres from cosmic radiation.

                                        @sundogplanets

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                                        Reinald Kirchner
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                                        #59

                                        @bit @sundogplanets @mina I heard the 486 CPU generations were way more robust against radiation 'cause of there larger structures. Maybe they get popular again. 🫣

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                                        • bitB bit

                                          @mina @sundogplanets

                                          I read an article about this, and there was a discussion section, and someone there was making this very argument that space is cold so cooling won't be required, which I thought at the time made total sense. But then someone else brought up the fact the ISS actually has trouble cooling itself, because while yes space is cold, there is so little matter around, it remains very difficult to dissipate heat. So now I'm not so sure.

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                                          M Berberich
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                                          #60

                                          @bit @mina @sundogplanets

                                          Space is not cold.
                                          Temperature is a property of matter. In space there is no¹ matter, so no temperature.

                                          __________
                                          ¹ There is matter in space, but as it is a ultra-high vacuum, the density is so low that you can completely ignore it in this context.

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