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Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini.

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  • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

    Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

    #darkpatterns

    RootWyrm πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦:progress:R This user is from outside of this forum
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    RootWyrm πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦:progress:
    wrote on last edited by
    #9

    @briankrebs actually, the tiny tiny X only works about half the time and is just the "shove it in my face again every single time" button.

    It's long past time for people to dump Gmail. Especially since it's now horrifically insecure and outright dangerous if you oppose the regime.

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    • kwayk42K kwayk42

      @briankrebs when did Google become Microsoft?

      Comfortably NumbN This user is from outside of this forum
      Comfortably NumbN This user is from outside of this forum
      Comfortably Numb
      wrote on last edited by
      #10

      @kwayk42 @briankrebs When they killed "Don't be evil" motto.

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      • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

        Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

        #darkpatterns

        Kevin BK This user is from outside of this forum
        Kevin BK This user is from outside of this forum
        Kevin B
        wrote on last edited by
        #11

        @briankrebs

        (looks up "fuck no" keycap to replace Esc)

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        • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

          Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

          #darkpatterns

          diana πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈπŸ¦‹πŸŒ±D This user is from outside of this forum
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          diana πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈπŸ¦‹πŸŒ±
          wrote on last edited by
          #12

          @briankrebs

          and this is why I am going back to the 1990's style email server, spool, and a terminal window client that reads text. Just like the old Unix days as K&R intended.

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          • kwayk42K kwayk42

            @briankrebs when did Google become Microsoft?

            Malka BethB This user is from outside of this forum
            Malka BethB This user is from outside of this forum
            Malka Beth
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            #13

            @kwayk42 @briankrebs about a decade ago, which is why in my efforts to degoogle my electronics, I avoid Microslop in equal measure.

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            • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

              Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

              #darkpatterns

               Tournesol 🌻πŸ₯žT This user is from outside of this forum
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              Tournesol 🌻πŸ₯ž
              wrote on last edited by
              #14

              @briankrebs I genuinely don't know which button I should click to say No, that's crazy

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              • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                #darkpatterns

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                #15

                @briankrebs@infosec.exchange
                What would happen if you asked Gemini to write an Email that clearly went against it's TOS and AUP? Would it politely refuse and give you the normal message composition window I wonder. (I no longer have gmail).

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                • RootWyrm πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦:progress:R RootWyrm πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦:progress:

                  @briankrebs actually, the tiny tiny X only works about half the time and is just the "shove it in my face again every single time" button.

                  It's long past time for people to dump Gmail. Especially since it's now horrifically insecure and outright dangerous if you oppose the regime.

                  BrianKrebsB This user is from outside of this forum
                  BrianKrebsB This user is from outside of this forum
                  BrianKrebs
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #16

                  @rootwyrm It worked, but then when I went to compose an email it fired another popup trying to push Gemini.

                  EarthshineE RootWyrm πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦:progress:R 2 Replies Last reply
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                  • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                    Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                    #darkpatterns

                    Patrick SchmitzS This user is from outside of this forum
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                    Patrick Schmitz
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                    #17

                    @briankrebs the "x" is the "annoy me later" button, "no" is not an option.

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                    • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                      Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                      #darkpatterns

                      Binary Large OctopusB This user is from outside of this forum
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                      Binary Large Octopus
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                      #18

                      @briankrebs Have Gemini compose my messages? Like this: https://github.com/google-gemini/gemini-cli/issues/16750?

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                      • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                        Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                        #darkpatterns

                        Greg.  Just Greg…T This user is from outside of this forum
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                        Greg. Just Greg…
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                        #19

                        @briankrebs Indeed when your plan for market growth is to hide the opt-out button, it might be time to reassess the value of your tool.

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                        • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                          Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                          #darkpatterns

                          OnlyMeD This user is from outside of this forum
                          OnlyMeD This user is from outside of this forum
                          OnlyMe
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #20

                          @briankrebs Does β€˜Continue’ do the same thing as β€˜Try now’?

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                          • diana πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈπŸ¦‹πŸŒ±D diana πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈπŸ¦‹πŸŒ±

                            @briankrebs

                            and this is why I am going back to the 1990's style email server, spool, and a terminal window client that reads text. Just like the old Unix days as K&R intended.

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                            Kaosc
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                            #21

                            @dianea @briankrebs Been thinking the same. It would also be nice to have a proper search again via ripgrep.

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                            • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                              Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                              #darkpatterns

                              [Yaseenist] CauseOfBSODC This user is from outside of this forum
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                              [Yaseenist] CauseOfBSOD
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #22

                              @briankrebs nah the tiny "x" is likely the "continue" button aka the "remind me later" button

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                              • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                                #darkpatterns

                                Mike MattatallM This user is from outside of this forum
                                Mike MattatallM This user is from outside of this forum
                                Mike Mattatall
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                                #23

                                @briankrebs And here I thought I was already confidently drafting my emails ...

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                                • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                  Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                                  #darkpatterns

                                  ((( Geekosaurus )))K This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  ((( Geekosaurus )))
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #24

                                  @briankrebs There is a setting to turn off "smart features" which will suppress those Gemini prompts.

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                                  • ((( Geekosaurus )))K ((( Geekosaurus )))

                                    @briankrebs There is a setting to turn off "smart features" which will suppress those Gemini prompts.

                                    Paul Chambers🚧P This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Paul Chambers🚧P This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Paul Chambers🚧
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                                    #25

                                    @kahomono You still get the nag screens every time they release a new feature and every now and then a nag screen to turn Gemini on. @briankrebs

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                                    • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                      Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                                      #darkpatterns

                                      MostlyTatoM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      MostlyTato
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #26

                                      @briankrebs
                                      Because writing an email is such a hard thing that we have always struggled with...πŸ™„

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                                      • Multi "skateboard propeller" :companion_cube: :lizard_doggo:M Multi "skateboard propeller" :companion_cube: :lizard_doggo:

                                        @briankrebs i wonder how many users misread confidently as confidentially and proceeded to do. Uh. Security incidents

                                        gardengeekG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        gardengeek
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                                        #27

                                        @multisn8

                                        I did! when seeing this screenshot, my first thought was: huh, I wonder how confidential this really is?? I was confident about my initial read.

                                        Also, does this mean that some (many? most??) emails I receive from gmail accounts will be written by AI? I'm sorry, but I do not spend my time reading AI-generated mail. Boycott in both directions (sending and receiving from gmail).

                                        @briankrebs

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                                        • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                          @rootwyrm It worked, but then when I went to compose an email it fired another popup trying to push Gemini.

                                          EarthshineE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          Earthshine
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                                          #28

                                          @briankrebs @rootwyrm the correct process flow is x -> options -> takeout -> download my data -> options -> account -> delete my account.

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