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Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini.

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  • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

    Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

    #darkpatterns

    diana πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈπŸ¦‹πŸŒ±D This user is from outside of this forum
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    diana πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈπŸ¦‹πŸŒ±
    wrote on last edited by
    #12

    @briankrebs

    and this is why I am going back to the 1990's style email server, spool, and a terminal window client that reads text. Just like the old Unix days as K&R intended.

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    • kwayk42K kwayk42

      @briankrebs when did Google become Microsoft?

      Malka BethB This user is from outside of this forum
      Malka BethB This user is from outside of this forum
      Malka Beth
      wrote on last edited by
      #13

      @kwayk42 @briankrebs about a decade ago, which is why in my efforts to degoogle my electronics, I avoid Microslop in equal measure.

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      • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

        Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

        #darkpatterns

         Tournesol 🌻πŸ₯žT This user is from outside of this forum
         Tournesol 🌻πŸ₯žT This user is from outside of this forum
        Tournesol 🌻πŸ₯ž
        wrote on last edited by
        #14

        @briankrebs I genuinely don't know which button I should click to say No, that's crazy

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        • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

          Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

          #darkpatterns

          George E. πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έβ™₯πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡΅πŸ‡ΈπŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆπŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈG This user is from outside of this forum
          George E. πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έβ™₯πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦πŸ‡΅πŸ‡ΈπŸ³οΈβ€πŸŒˆπŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈG This user is from outside of this forum
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          wrote on last edited by
          #15

          @briankrebs@infosec.exchange
          What would happen if you asked Gemini to write an Email that clearly went against it's TOS and AUP? Would it politely refuse and give you the normal message composition window I wonder. (I no longer have gmail).

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          • RootWyrm πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦:progress:R RootWyrm πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦:progress:

            @briankrebs actually, the tiny tiny X only works about half the time and is just the "shove it in my face again every single time" button.

            It's long past time for people to dump Gmail. Especially since it's now horrifically insecure and outright dangerous if you oppose the regime.

            BrianKrebsB This user is from outside of this forum
            BrianKrebsB This user is from outside of this forum
            BrianKrebs
            wrote on last edited by
            #16

            @rootwyrm It worked, but then when I went to compose an email it fired another popup trying to push Gemini.

            EarthshineE RootWyrm πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡¦:progress:R 2 Replies Last reply
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            • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

              Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

              #darkpatterns

              Patrick SchmitzS This user is from outside of this forum
              Patrick SchmitzS This user is from outside of this forum
              Patrick Schmitz
              wrote on last edited by
              #17

              @briankrebs the "x" is the "annoy me later" button, "no" is not an option.

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              • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                #darkpatterns

                Binary Large OctopusB This user is from outside of this forum
                Binary Large OctopusB This user is from outside of this forum
                Binary Large Octopus
                wrote on last edited by
                #18

                @briankrebs Have Gemini compose my messages? Like this: https://github.com/google-gemini/gemini-cli/issues/16750?

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                • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                  Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                  #darkpatterns

                  Greg.  Just Greg…T This user is from outside of this forum
                  Greg.  Just Greg…T This user is from outside of this forum
                  Greg. Just Greg…
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #19

                  @briankrebs Indeed when your plan for market growth is to hide the opt-out button, it might be time to reassess the value of your tool.

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                  • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                    Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                    #darkpatterns

                    OnlyMeD This user is from outside of this forum
                    OnlyMeD This user is from outside of this forum
                    OnlyMe
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #20

                    @briankrebs Does β€˜Continue’ do the same thing as β€˜Try now’?

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                    • diana πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈπŸ¦‹πŸŒ±D diana πŸ³οΈβ€βš§οΈπŸ¦‹πŸŒ±

                      @briankrebs

                      and this is why I am going back to the 1990's style email server, spool, and a terminal window client that reads text. Just like the old Unix days as K&R intended.

                      K This user is from outside of this forum
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                      Kaosc
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #21

                      @dianea @briankrebs Been thinking the same. It would also be nice to have a proper search again via ripgrep.

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                      • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                        Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                        #darkpatterns

                        [Yaseenist] CauseOfBSODC This user is from outside of this forum
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                        [Yaseenist] CauseOfBSOD
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #22

                        @briankrebs nah the tiny "x" is likely the "continue" button aka the "remind me later" button

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                        • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                          Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                          #darkpatterns

                          Mike MattatallM This user is from outside of this forum
                          Mike MattatallM This user is from outside of this forum
                          Mike Mattatall
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #23

                          @briankrebs And here I thought I was already confidently drafting my emails ...

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                          • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                            Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                            #darkpatterns

                            ((( Geekosaurus )))K This user is from outside of this forum
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                            ((( Geekosaurus )))
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #24

                            @briankrebs There is a setting to turn off "smart features" which will suppress those Gemini prompts.

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                            • ((( Geekosaurus )))K ((( Geekosaurus )))

                              @briankrebs There is a setting to turn off "smart features" which will suppress those Gemini prompts.

                              Paul Chambers🚧P This user is from outside of this forum
                              Paul Chambers🚧P This user is from outside of this forum
                              Paul Chambers🚧
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #25

                              @kahomono You still get the nag screens every time they release a new feature and every now and then a nag screen to turn Gemini on. @briankrebs

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                              • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                                #darkpatterns

                                MostlyTatoM This user is from outside of this forum
                                MostlyTatoM This user is from outside of this forum
                                MostlyTato
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #26

                                @briankrebs
                                Because writing an email is such a hard thing that we have always struggled with...πŸ™„

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                                • Multi "skateboard propeller" :companion_cube: :lizard_doggo:M Multi "skateboard propeller" :companion_cube: :lizard_doggo:

                                  @briankrebs i wonder how many users misread confidently as confidentially and proceeded to do. Uh. Security incidents

                                  gardengeekG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  gardengeek
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                                  #27

                                  @multisn8

                                  I did! when seeing this screenshot, my first thought was: huh, I wonder how confidential this really is?? I was confident about my initial read.

                                  Also, does this mean that some (many? most??) emails I receive from gmail accounts will be written by AI? I'm sorry, but I do not spend my time reading AI-generated mail. Boycott in both directions (sending and receiving from gmail).

                                  @briankrebs

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                                  • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                    @rootwyrm It worked, but then when I went to compose an email it fired another popup trying to push Gemini.

                                    EarthshineE This user is from outside of this forum
                                    EarthshineE This user is from outside of this forum
                                    Earthshine
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                                    #28

                                    @briankrebs @rootwyrm the correct process flow is x -> options -> takeout -> download my data -> options -> account -> delete my account.

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                                    • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                      Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                                      #darkpatterns

                                      kbalK This user is from outside of this forum
                                      kbalK This user is from outside of this forum
                                      kbal
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #29

                                      Is it just me, or does "draft emails confidently" seem like too awkward a phrase to inspire much confidence?

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                                      • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                        Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                                        #darkpatterns

                                        GustavoQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        Gustavo
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #30

                                        @briankrebs I just disabled the smart features entirely. No, smart folder organization isn't a thing I want, it is why I disabled it in the first place. I'm sure Google is using my messages to train their models anyway, but I don't want to get bothered by all this fuzz.

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                                        • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                          Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                                          #darkpatterns

                                          Alex M. Dunne (he/him)A This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Alex M. Dunne (he/him)A This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Alex M. Dunne (he/him)
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #31

                                          @briankrebs

                                          That's weird #AI marketing from #gmail.

                                          As "a random guy on the internet" I have all the confidence I need to type an email...

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