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Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini.

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  • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

    Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

    #darkpatterns

    OnlyMeD This user is from outside of this forum
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    OnlyMe
    wrote on last edited by
    #20

    @briankrebs Does ‘Continue’ do the same thing as ‘Try now’?

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    • diana 🏳️‍⚧️🦋🌱D diana 🏳️‍⚧️🦋🌱

      @briankrebs

      and this is why I am going back to the 1990's style email server, spool, and a terminal window client that reads text. Just like the old Unix days as K&R intended.

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      Kaosc
      wrote on last edited by
      #21

      @dianea @briankrebs Been thinking the same. It would also be nice to have a proper search again via ripgrep.

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      • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

        Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

        #darkpatterns

        [Yaseenist] CauseOfBSODC This user is from outside of this forum
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        [Yaseenist] CauseOfBSOD
        wrote on last edited by
        #22

        @briankrebs nah the tiny "x" is likely the "continue" button aka the "remind me later" button

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        • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

          Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

          #darkpatterns

          Mike MattatallM This user is from outside of this forum
          Mike MattatallM This user is from outside of this forum
          Mike Mattatall
          wrote on last edited by
          #23

          @briankrebs And here I thought I was already confidently drafting my emails ...

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          • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

            Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

            #darkpatterns

            ((( Geekosaurus )))K This user is from outside of this forum
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            ((( Geekosaurus )))
            wrote on last edited by
            #24

            @briankrebs There is a setting to turn off "smart features" which will suppress those Gemini prompts.

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            • ((( Geekosaurus )))K ((( Geekosaurus )))

              @briankrebs There is a setting to turn off "smart features" which will suppress those Gemini prompts.

              Paul Chambers🚧P This user is from outside of this forum
              Paul Chambers🚧P This user is from outside of this forum
              Paul Chambers🚧
              wrote on last edited by
              #25

              @kahomono You still get the nag screens every time they release a new feature and every now and then a nag screen to turn Gemini on. @briankrebs

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              • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                #darkpatterns

                MostlyTatoM This user is from outside of this forum
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                MostlyTato
                wrote on last edited by
                #26

                @briankrebs
                Because writing an email is such a hard thing that we have always struggled with...🙄

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                • Multi "skateboard propeller" :companion_cube: :lizard_doggo:M Multi "skateboard propeller" :companion_cube: :lizard_doggo:

                  @briankrebs i wonder how many users misread confidently as confidentially and proceeded to do. Uh. Security incidents

                  gardengeekG This user is from outside of this forum
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                  gardengeek
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #27

                  @multisn8

                  I did! when seeing this screenshot, my first thought was: huh, I wonder how confidential this really is?? I was confident about my initial read.

                  Also, does this mean that some (many? most??) emails I receive from gmail accounts will be written by AI? I'm sorry, but I do not spend my time reading AI-generated mail. Boycott in both directions (sending and receiving from gmail).

                  @briankrebs

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                  • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                    @rootwyrm It worked, but then when I went to compose an email it fired another popup trying to push Gemini.

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                    Earthshine
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #28

                    @briankrebs @rootwyrm the correct process flow is x -> options -> takeout -> download my data -> options -> account -> delete my account.

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                    • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                      Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                      #darkpatterns

                      kbalK This user is from outside of this forum
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                      kbal
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #29

                      Is it just me, or does "draft emails confidently" seem like too awkward a phrase to inspire much confidence?

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                      • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                        Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                        #darkpatterns

                        GustavoQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                        Gustavo
                        wrote on last edited by
                        #30

                        @briankrebs I just disabled the smart features entirely. No, smart folder organization isn't a thing I want, it is why I disabled it in the first place. I'm sure Google is using my messages to train their models anyway, but I don't want to get bothered by all this fuzz.

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                        • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                          Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                          #darkpatterns

                          Alex M. Dunne (he/him)A This user is from outside of this forum
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                          Alex M. Dunne (he/him)
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #31

                          @briankrebs

                          That's weird #AI marketing from #gmail.

                          As "a random guy on the internet" I have all the confidence I need to type an email...

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                          • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                            @rootwyrm It worked, but then when I went to compose an email it fired another popup trying to push Gemini.

                            RootWyrm 🇺🇦:progress:R This user is from outside of this forum
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                            RootWyrm 🇺🇦:progress:
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #32

                            @briankrebs yep, there is absolutely no way to turn it off now, and no way to keep it from hoovering up your inbox for training. "X" is just "force it on me every time."

                            Seriously.
                            People need to get the fuck off Gmail.
                            It's so damn bad that I am giving serious consideration to starting an email hosting business. And I know better than just about everyone what that involves.

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                            • GustavoQ Gustavo

                              @briankrebs I just disabled the smart features entirely. No, smart folder organization isn't a thing I want, it is why I disabled it in the first place. I'm sure Google is using my messages to train their models anyway, but I don't want to get bothered by all this fuzz.

                              GustavoQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                              Gustavo
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #33

                              @briankrebs And, while we are here talking about email, a coworker suggested that I use Outlook. Which alternative exists which is not backed by Mozilla and supports Windows and HTML mail? If there isn't one, I guess I will have to use Thunderbird.

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                              • Paul Chambers🚧P Paul Chambers🚧

                                @kahomono You still get the nag screens every time they release a new feature and every now and then a nag screen to turn Gemini on. @briankrebs

                                MsMeropeM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                MsMerope
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #34

                                @paul @kahomono @briankrebs

                                yup - I turned all that crap off as soon as I found out I could do so and **then** when I started getting those screen nags I went back and rechecked my settings: all the smart 💩 still set to off.

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                                • MsMeropeM MsMerope

                                  @paul @kahomono @briankrebs

                                  yup - I turned all that crap off as soon as I found out I could do so and **then** when I started getting those screen nags I went back and rechecked my settings: all the smart 💩 still set to off.

                                  BrianKrebsB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  BrianKrebs
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #35

                                  @MsMerope @paul @kahomono just checked and yep that's all turned off in my profile as well.

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                                  • diana 🏳️‍⚧️🦋🌱D diana 🏳️‍⚧️🦋🌱

                                    @briankrebs

                                    and this is why I am going back to the 1990's style email server, spool, and a terminal window client that reads text. Just like the old Unix days as K&R intended.

                                    MsMeropeM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    MsMerope
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #36

                                    @dianea @briankrebs

                                    bring back Eudora!!!

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                                    • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                      @MsMerope @paul @kahomono just checked and yep that's all turned off in my profile as well.

                                      Paul Chambers🚧P This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      Paul Chambers🚧
                                      wrote on last edited by
                                      #37

                                      @briankrebs You get the same type nag notification, with the elusive and unclear button naming and choices, for other Google products, like Photos and Home, when they add Gemini features. @MsMerope @kahomono

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                                      • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                        Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                                        #darkpatterns

                                        Duckbilled Plattypus.P This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        Duckbilled Plattypus.
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #38

                                        @briankrebs I recently got a business email using a term that is a notorious red flag lawsuit bait. I emailed the sender to politely point it out. They were horrified and admitted AI re-wrote it when they asked AI to make it 'more approachable, nicer.' They forgot to add "and 100% compliant with all laws and regulations."

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                                        • diana 🏳️‍⚧️🦋🌱D diana 🏳️‍⚧️🦋🌱

                                          @briankrebs

                                          and this is why I am going back to the 1990's style email server, spool, and a terminal window client that reads text. Just like the old Unix days as K&R intended.

                                          loStronzoRoccoD This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          loStronzoRocco
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #39

                                          @dianea @briankrebs Text only is the way. I was actually talking about the benefits of reading text only email with a friend whose company wanted better formatting in their html based emails. Yeah. Fuck that, text lines up perfectly and doesn’t need anything fancy. Simple does not mean deprecated or useless.

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