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Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini.

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  • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

    Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

    #darkpatterns

    Kevin BK This user is from outside of this forum
    Kevin BK This user is from outside of this forum
    Kevin B
    wrote on last edited by
    #11

    @briankrebs

    (looks up "fuck no" keycap to replace Esc)

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    • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

      Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

      #darkpatterns

      diana 🏳️‍⚧️🦋🌱D This user is from outside of this forum
      diana 🏳️‍⚧️🦋🌱D This user is from outside of this forum
      diana 🏳️‍⚧️🦋🌱
      wrote on last edited by
      #12

      @briankrebs

      and this is why I am going back to the 1990's style email server, spool, and a terminal window client that reads text. Just like the old Unix days as K&R intended.

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      • kwayk42K kwayk42

        @briankrebs when did Google become Microsoft?

        Malka BethB This user is from outside of this forum
        Malka BethB This user is from outside of this forum
        Malka Beth
        wrote on last edited by
        #13

        @kwayk42 @briankrebs about a decade ago, which is why in my efforts to degoogle my electronics, I avoid Microslop in equal measure.

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        • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

          Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

          #darkpatterns

           Tournesol 🌻🥞T This user is from outside of this forum
           Tournesol 🌻🥞T This user is from outside of this forum
          Tournesol 🌻🥞
          wrote on last edited by
          #14

          @briankrebs I genuinely don't know which button I should click to say No, that's crazy

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          • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

            Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

            #darkpatterns

            George E. 🇺🇸♥🇺🇦🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️G This user is from outside of this forum
            George E. 🇺🇸♥🇺🇦🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️G This user is from outside of this forum
            George E. 🇺🇸♥🇺🇦🇵🇸🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️
            wrote on last edited by
            #15

            @briankrebs@infosec.exchange
            What would happen if you asked Gemini to write an Email that clearly went against it's TOS and AUP? Would it politely refuse and give you the normal message composition window I wonder. (I no longer have gmail).

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            • RootWyrm 🇺🇦:progress:R RootWyrm 🇺🇦:progress:

              @briankrebs actually, the tiny tiny X only works about half the time and is just the "shove it in my face again every single time" button.

              It's long past time for people to dump Gmail. Especially since it's now horrifically insecure and outright dangerous if you oppose the regime.

              BrianKrebsB This user is from outside of this forum
              BrianKrebsB This user is from outside of this forum
              BrianKrebs
              wrote on last edited by
              #16

              @rootwyrm It worked, but then when I went to compose an email it fired another popup trying to push Gemini.

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              • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                #darkpatterns

                Patrick SchmitzS This user is from outside of this forum
                Patrick SchmitzS This user is from outside of this forum
                Patrick Schmitz
                wrote on last edited by
                #17

                @briankrebs the "x" is the "annoy me later" button, "no" is not an option.

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                • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                  Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                  #darkpatterns

                  Binary Large OctopusB This user is from outside of this forum
                  Binary Large OctopusB This user is from outside of this forum
                  Binary Large Octopus
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #18

                  @briankrebs Have Gemini compose my messages? Like this: https://github.com/google-gemini/gemini-cli/issues/16750?

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                  • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                    Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                    #darkpatterns

                    Greg.  Just Greg…T This user is from outside of this forum
                    Greg.  Just Greg…T This user is from outside of this forum
                    Greg. Just Greg…
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #19

                    @briankrebs Indeed when your plan for market growth is to hide the opt-out button, it might be time to reassess the value of your tool.

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                    • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                      Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                      #darkpatterns

                      OnlyMeD This user is from outside of this forum
                      OnlyMeD This user is from outside of this forum
                      OnlyMe
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #20

                      @briankrebs Does ‘Continue’ do the same thing as ‘Try now’?

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                      • diana 🏳️‍⚧️🦋🌱D diana 🏳️‍⚧️🦋🌱

                        @briankrebs

                        and this is why I am going back to the 1990's style email server, spool, and a terminal window client that reads text. Just like the old Unix days as K&R intended.

                        K This user is from outside of this forum
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                        Kaosc
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                        #21

                        @dianea @briankrebs Been thinking the same. It would also be nice to have a proper search again via ripgrep.

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                        • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                          Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                          #darkpatterns

                          [Yaseenist] CauseOfBSODC This user is from outside of this forum
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                          [Yaseenist] CauseOfBSOD
                          wrote on last edited by
                          #22

                          @briankrebs nah the tiny "x" is likely the "continue" button aka the "remind me later" button

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                          • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                            Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                            #darkpatterns

                            Mike MattatallM This user is from outside of this forum
                            Mike MattatallM This user is from outside of this forum
                            Mike Mattatall
                            wrote on last edited by
                            #23

                            @briankrebs And here I thought I was already confidently drafting my emails ...

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                            • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                              Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                              #darkpatterns

                              ((( Geekosaurus )))K This user is from outside of this forum
                              ((( Geekosaurus )))K This user is from outside of this forum
                              ((( Geekosaurus )))
                              wrote on last edited by
                              #24

                              @briankrebs There is a setting to turn off "smart features" which will suppress those Gemini prompts.

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                              • ((( Geekosaurus )))K ((( Geekosaurus )))

                                @briankrebs There is a setting to turn off "smart features" which will suppress those Gemini prompts.

                                Paul Chambers🚧P This user is from outside of this forum
                                Paul Chambers🚧P This user is from outside of this forum
                                Paul Chambers🚧
                                wrote on last edited by
                                #25

                                @kahomono You still get the nag screens every time they release a new feature and every now and then a nag screen to turn Gemini on. @briankrebs

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                                • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                  Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                                  #darkpatterns

                                  MostlyTatoM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  MostlyTato
                                  wrote on last edited by
                                  #26

                                  @briankrebs
                                  Because writing an email is such a hard thing that we have always struggled with...🙄

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                                  • Multi "skateboard propeller" :companion_cube: :lizard_doggo:M Multi "skateboard propeller" :companion_cube: :lizard_doggo:

                                    @briankrebs i wonder how many users misread confidently as confidentially and proceeded to do. Uh. Security incidents

                                    gardengeekG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    gardengeek
                                    wrote on last edited by
                                    #27

                                    @multisn8

                                    I did! when seeing this screenshot, my first thought was: huh, I wonder how confidential this really is?? I was confident about my initial read.

                                    Also, does this mean that some (many? most??) emails I receive from gmail accounts will be written by AI? I'm sorry, but I do not spend my time reading AI-generated mail. Boycott in both directions (sending and receiving from gmail).

                                    @briankrebs

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                                    • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                      @rootwyrm It worked, but then when I went to compose an email it fired another popup trying to push Gemini.

                                      EarthshineE This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      Earthshine
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                                      #28

                                      @briankrebs @rootwyrm the correct process flow is x -> options -> takeout -> download my data -> options -> account -> delete my account.

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                                      • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                        Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                                        #darkpatterns

                                        kbalK This user is from outside of this forum
                                        kbalK This user is from outside of this forum
                                        kbal
                                        wrote on last edited by
                                        #29

                                        Is it just me, or does "draft emails confidently" seem like too awkward a phrase to inspire much confidence?

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                                        • BrianKrebsB BrianKrebs

                                          Continue, or "try it now" a popup from Gmail now asks, offering to compose your next message with Gemini. I guess the tiny "x" is the "fuck no" button?

                                          #darkpatterns

                                          GustavoQ This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          Gustavo
                                          wrote on last edited by
                                          #30

                                          @briankrebs I just disabled the smart features entirely. No, smart folder organization isn't a thing I want, it is why I disabled it in the first place. I'm sure Google is using my messages to train their models anyway, but I don't want to get bothered by all this fuzz.

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