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  • NéuroD Néuro

    @dansup friendica is horrible. just horrible, the other apps are great, but still have weird flaws. like in mastodon, if I see a post that is really really really really long it takes forever to scroll past it, especially if this person spams. there is no "see more" text to a long text. and in mastodon just replying to you, is a small window to the left of the post.

    peertube won't won't without money for the creators, somehow.

    Carlos SolísC This user is from outside of this forum
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    Carlos Solís
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    #42

    As a user of Friendica for the last two years, I would have certainly agreed with you just a pair of weeks ago. Fortunately, the latest version of Friendica finally included the option to cache network channel data, at long last solving the problem of having to wait upwards of 30 seconds for the network tab to open. The "see more" option is an add-on for some reason, two in fact depending on which implementation you want to use, and either of them must be first enabled by the instance's administrator.

    I also agree that there must be some way of making PeerTube natively compatible with subscriptions and "superchats", if we want YouTubers and livestreamers to be capable of using it as an actual replacement for their YT/Twitch channels. The only payment methods I've seen enabled for PeerTube as plug-ins are all cryptocurrency-based unfortunately.

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    • BenB Ben

      @dansup signal isnt open source or federated, is it?

      MiggiM This user is from outside of this forum
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      @ben @dansup It's open source

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      • T Radiation Craziness

        @hyc Just a heads up, apparently the official F-droid app has some security issues and isn't recommended. I've used Neo-Store and @droidify Also as @LightningToaster mentioned, you'll need to add the @guardianproject repo in the settings to get Signal to show up

        Howard Chu @ SymasH This user is from outside of this forum
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        #44

        @techindepth27 @droidify @LightningToaster @guardianproject signal website only sends me to google play. My fdroid app must've been out of date because even enabling the guardian repo, still didn't show signal app. Droidify worked, and the new apk is running now, thanks.

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        • zetabetaZ zetabeta

          @hyc @dansup @matrix @xmpp
          huawei uses harmonyos, which may not be compatible with android.
          older phones used android.

          Howard Chu @ SymasH This user is from outside of this forum
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          Howard Chu @ Symas
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          #45

          @zetabeta this is a P60 Pro on de-googled Android.

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          • Howard Chu @ SymasH Howard Chu @ Symas

            @techindepth27 @droidify @LightningToaster @guardianproject signal website only sends me to google play. My fdroid app must've been out of date because even enabling the guardian repo, still didn't show signal app. Droidify worked, and the new apk is running now, thanks.

            LightningToasterL This user is from outside of this forum
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            LightningToaster
            wrote last edited by
            #46

            @hyc Oh yeah, weird, I notice that too now. It seems they have removed the .apk download option from the site.

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            • dansupD dansup

              The Great Migration 🚀

              X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
              IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
              FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
              TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
              YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
              WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

              Ethical. Federated. Open.

              Spread the word ✨

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              #47

              @dansup @matrix @xmpp Reddit -> Lemmy

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              • dansupD dansup

                The Great Migration 🚀

                X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
                IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
                FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
                TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
                YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
                WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

                Ethical. Federated. Open.

                Spread the word ✨

                UltrasonicMadness (he/him)U This user is from outside of this forum
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                UltrasonicMadness (he/him)
                wrote last edited by
                #48

                @dansup I'm not convinced that an ethical version of #TikTok is possible - the entire premise is loss of time and cognitive function to a mini-parade of utterly inane rubbish.

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                • LightningToasterL LightningToaster

                  @hyc Oh yeah, weird, I notice that too now. It seems they have removed the .apk download option from the site.

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                  Radiation Craziness
                  wrote last edited by
                  #49

                  @LightningToaster @hyc A quick search for "signal apk" brought me here... https://signal.org/android/apk/

                  It even includes the fingerprint hash which you can verify with AppVerifier

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                  • NéuroD Néuro

                    @dansup friendica is horrible. just horrible, the other apps are great, but still have weird flaws. like in mastodon, if I see a post that is really really really really long it takes forever to scroll past it, especially if this person spams. there is no "see more" text to a long text. and in mastodon just replying to you, is a small window to the left of the post.

                    peertube won't won't without money for the creators, somehow.

                    KalonK This user is from outside of this forum
                    KalonK This user is from outside of this forum
                    Kalon
                    wrote last edited by
                    #50

                    Its really too bad but it seems like Friendica isn't coded efficiently.

                    To a large degree Mastodon is working the same way, but the focus on friends first make it a better entry to the Fediverse for those coming from Facebook.

                    Really wish it performed better. Perhaps people smarter than me will get around to a complete rewrite. Probably in Rust.

                    @Drahngis

                    @dansup

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                    • T Radiation Craziness

                      @LightningToaster @hyc A quick search for "signal apk" brought me here... https://signal.org/android/apk/

                      It even includes the fingerprint hash which you can verify with AppVerifier

                      LightningToasterL This user is from outside of this forum
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                      LightningToaster
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                      #51

                      @techindepth27 Okay so maybe nothing changed, and that is how I used to find it as well: Only findable through search engine. It simply cannot be found using the Signal website.

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                      • dansupD dansup

                        The Great Migration 🚀

                        X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
                        IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
                        FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
                        TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
                        YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
                        WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

                        Ethical. Federated. Open.

                        Spread the word ✨

                        Toni AittoniemiG This user is from outside of this forum
                        Toni AittoniemiG This user is from outside of this forum
                        Toni Aittoniemi
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                        #52

                        @dansup @matrix @xmpp Signal might get legit banned. Both in USA and EU, actually.

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                        • GustavoQ Gustavo

                          @dansup Matrix crypto is bad. There are so many people recommending Signal alternatives with BAD cryptography just because it's not federated (some are even Signal forks with removed security features! ) that makes me urge two things:

                          One: pressure Signal into becoming federated.

                          Two: make people aware that there are plans to add E2EE to Mastodon and, IMHO, it will be better than Signal in some parts (e.g. on Signal you have to check safety numbers to see if no one is tampering with your connection, on Mastodon it will be automatic, like WhatsApp, but open-source, unlike WhatsApp).

                          B This user is from outside of this forum
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                          Bonsai861
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                          #53

                          @qgustavor @dansup What's wrong with Matrix crpyto?

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                          • dansupD dansup

                            The Great Migration 🚀

                            X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
                            IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
                            FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
                            TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
                            YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
                            WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

                            Ethical. Federated. Open.

                            Spread the word ✨

                            JustBobB This user is from outside of this forum
                            JustBobB This user is from outside of this forum
                            JustBob
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                            #54

                            @matrix @xmpp @dansup

                            WhatsApp ➡️ #XMPP

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                            • dansupD dansup

                              The Great Migration 🚀

                              X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
                              IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
                              FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
                              TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
                              YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
                              WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

                              Ethical. Federated. Open.

                              Spread the word ✨

                              Ray McCarthyR This user is from outside of this forum
                              Ray McCarthyR This user is from outside of this forum
                              Ray McCarthy
                              wrote last edited by
                              #55

                              @dansup @matrix @xmpp
                              Japanese owned Viber is a good alternative to WhatsApp.
                              You can setup so only people in your phone contacts in advance can send, so then no adverts. Group or individual, with a group moderator. Text, voice, images, file transfer and Video.
                              Encrypted.
                              Skype was OK till wrecked by MS. Now it's gone.

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                              • LightningToasterL LightningToaster

                                @techindepth27 Okay so maybe nothing changed, and that is how I used to find it as well: Only findable through search engine. It simply cannot be found using the Signal website.

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                                Radiation Craziness
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                                #56

                                @LightningToaster Yeah I see that.... that's probably not a good sign

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                                • Carlos SolísC Carlos Solís
                                  @MartinaNeumayer @dansup @kitkat Molly, a fork of Signal that, among other things, has already removed Signal's dependency on Google's Firebase Cloud Messaging by replacing it with UnifiedPush and their own MollySocket service, is also working to implement an open-source version of the server under the code name Flatline: github.com/mollyim/flatline-pl…
                                  Martina NeumayerM This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Martina NeumayerM This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Martina Neumayer
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #57

                                  @csolisr Yes I know about it. But the problem with Molly is that, that they doesn't support older android versions anymore. If I remember correctly, the lowest system version on which the app can be installed is 11. Anything older isn't supported, which is pretty big unfortunate for many people.
                                  Btw.. Original Signal also offers two different versions of their app without google blobs included and with UnifiedPush. They are available on their page and from F-Droid repositories.

                                  @dansup @kitkat

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                                  • dansupD dansup

                                    The Great Migration 🚀

                                    X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
                                    IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
                                    FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
                                    TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
                                    YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
                                    WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

                                    Ethical. Federated. Open.

                                    Spread the word ✨

                                    ĞÖKÜ👻👻™G This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    ĞÖKÜ👻👻™
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #58

                                    @dansup @matrix @xmpp session ??

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                                    • Martina NeumayerM Martina Neumayer

                                      @csolisr Yes I know about it. But the problem with Molly is that, that they doesn't support older android versions anymore. If I remember correctly, the lowest system version on which the app can be installed is 11. Anything older isn't supported, which is pretty big unfortunate for many people.
                                      Btw.. Original Signal also offers two different versions of their app without google blobs included and with UnifiedPush. They are available on their page and from F-Droid repositories.

                                      @dansup @kitkat

                                      Carlos SolísC This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Carlos SolísC This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Carlos Solís
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                                      #59
                                      Hold up, mainstream Signal has finally integrated MollySocket then?
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                                      • T Radiation Craziness

                                        @pwm Looks interesting, I don't think I've heard of Deltachat before. By far the biggest issue with new messaging apps is you have to get everyone you're talking to to switch too and I just got most of them to get Signal so I don't think I'm going to be able to get them to switch again lol

                                        Pevin KinelP This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Pevin KinelP This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Pevin Kinel
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                                        @techindepth27 @pwm just wanted to say that actually Delta's onboarding mechanism is the simplest and fastest i've seen. Start it the first time, write your name and that's it. Because it's not linked to a phone number nor pre-existing email, you don't have to go hunting for a confirmation link/code. Made the transition super smooth for a bunch of friends here

                                        @delta

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                                        • Carlos SolísC Carlos Solís
                                          Hold up, mainstream Signal has finally integrated MollySocket then?
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                                          Carlos Solís
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #61
                                          Never mind, there is a version of Signal without Google libraries, but instead of using UnifiedPush like Molly does, Signal falls back to direct WebSockets, which requires much more battery consumption in the background unfortunately. github.com/signalapp/Signal-An…
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