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  • dansupD dansup

    The Great Migration 🚀

    X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
    IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
    FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
    TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
    YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
    WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

    Ethical. Federated. Open.

    Spread the word ✨

    UltrasonicMadness (he/him)U This user is from outside of this forum
    UltrasonicMadness (he/him)U This user is from outside of this forum
    UltrasonicMadness (he/him)
    wrote last edited by
    #48

    @dansup I'm not convinced that an ethical version of #TikTok is possible - the entire premise is loss of time and cognitive function to a mini-parade of utterly inane rubbish.

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    • LightningToasterL LightningToaster

      @hyc Oh yeah, weird, I notice that too now. It seems they have removed the .apk download option from the site.

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      Radiation Craziness
      wrote last edited by
      #49

      @LightningToaster @hyc A quick search for "signal apk" brought me here... https://signal.org/android/apk/

      It even includes the fingerprint hash which you can verify with AppVerifier

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      • NéuroD Néuro

        @dansup friendica is horrible. just horrible, the other apps are great, but still have weird flaws. like in mastodon, if I see a post that is really really really really long it takes forever to scroll past it, especially if this person spams. there is no "see more" text to a long text. and in mastodon just replying to you, is a small window to the left of the post.

        peertube won't won't without money for the creators, somehow.

        KalonK This user is from outside of this forum
        KalonK This user is from outside of this forum
        Kalon
        wrote last edited by
        #50

        Its really too bad but it seems like Friendica isn't coded efficiently.

        To a large degree Mastodon is working the same way, but the focus on friends first make it a better entry to the Fediverse for those coming from Facebook.

        Really wish it performed better. Perhaps people smarter than me will get around to a complete rewrite. Probably in Rust.

        @Drahngis

        @dansup

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        • T Radiation Craziness

          @LightningToaster @hyc A quick search for "signal apk" brought me here... https://signal.org/android/apk/

          It even includes the fingerprint hash which you can verify with AppVerifier

          LightningToasterL This user is from outside of this forum
          LightningToasterL This user is from outside of this forum
          LightningToaster
          wrote last edited by
          #51

          @techindepth27 Okay so maybe nothing changed, and that is how I used to find it as well: Only findable through search engine. It simply cannot be found using the Signal website.

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          • dansupD dansup

            The Great Migration 🚀

            X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
            IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
            FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
            TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
            YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
            WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

            Ethical. Federated. Open.

            Spread the word ✨

            Toni AittoniemiG This user is from outside of this forum
            Toni AittoniemiG This user is from outside of this forum
            Toni Aittoniemi
            wrote last edited by
            #52

            @dansup @matrix @xmpp Signal might get legit banned. Both in USA and EU, actually.

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            • GustavoQ Gustavo

              @dansup Matrix crypto is bad. There are so many people recommending Signal alternatives with BAD cryptography just because it's not federated (some are even Signal forks with removed security features! ) that makes me urge two things:

              One: pressure Signal into becoming federated.

              Two: make people aware that there are plans to add E2EE to Mastodon and, IMHO, it will be better than Signal in some parts (e.g. on Signal you have to check safety numbers to see if no one is tampering with your connection, on Mastodon it will be automatic, like WhatsApp, but open-source, unlike WhatsApp).

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              Bonsai861
              wrote last edited by
              #53

              @qgustavor @dansup What's wrong with Matrix crpyto?

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              • dansupD dansup

                The Great Migration 🚀

                X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
                IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
                FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
                TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
                YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
                WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

                Ethical. Federated. Open.

                Spread the word ✨

                JustBobB This user is from outside of this forum
                JustBobB This user is from outside of this forum
                JustBob
                wrote last edited by
                #54

                @matrix @xmpp @dansup

                WhatsApp ➡️ #XMPP

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                • dansupD dansup

                  The Great Migration 🚀

                  X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
                  IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
                  FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
                  TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
                  YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
                  WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

                  Ethical. Federated. Open.

                  Spread the word ✨

                  Ray McCarthyR This user is from outside of this forum
                  Ray McCarthyR This user is from outside of this forum
                  Ray McCarthy
                  wrote last edited by
                  #55

                  @dansup @matrix @xmpp
                  Japanese owned Viber is a good alternative to WhatsApp.
                  You can setup so only people in your phone contacts in advance can send, so then no adverts. Group or individual, with a group moderator. Text, voice, images, file transfer and Video.
                  Encrypted.
                  Skype was OK till wrecked by MS. Now it's gone.

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                  • LightningToasterL LightningToaster

                    @techindepth27 Okay so maybe nothing changed, and that is how I used to find it as well: Only findable through search engine. It simply cannot be found using the Signal website.

                    T This user is from outside of this forum
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                    Radiation Craziness
                    wrote last edited by
                    #56

                    @LightningToaster Yeah I see that.... that's probably not a good sign

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                    • Carlos SolísC Carlos Solís
                      @MartinaNeumayer @dansup @kitkat Molly, a fork of Signal that, among other things, has already removed Signal's dependency on Google's Firebase Cloud Messaging by replacing it with UnifiedPush and their own MollySocket service, is also working to implement an open-source version of the server under the code name Flatline: github.com/mollyim/flatline-pl…
                      Martina NeumayerM This user is from outside of this forum
                      Martina NeumayerM This user is from outside of this forum
                      Martina Neumayer
                      wrote last edited by
                      #57

                      @csolisr Yes I know about it. But the problem with Molly is that, that they doesn't support older android versions anymore. If I remember correctly, the lowest system version on which the app can be installed is 11. Anything older isn't supported, which is pretty big unfortunate for many people.
                      Btw.. Original Signal also offers two different versions of their app without google blobs included and with UnifiedPush. They are available on their page and from F-Droid repositories.

                      @dansup @kitkat

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                      • dansupD dansup

                        The Great Migration 🚀

                        X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
                        IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
                        FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
                        TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
                        YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
                        WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

                        Ethical. Federated. Open.

                        Spread the word ✨

                        ĞÖKÜ👻👻™G This user is from outside of this forum
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                        ĞÖKÜ👻👻™
                        wrote last edited by
                        #58

                        @dansup @matrix @xmpp session ??

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                        • Martina NeumayerM Martina Neumayer

                          @csolisr Yes I know about it. But the problem with Molly is that, that they doesn't support older android versions anymore. If I remember correctly, the lowest system version on which the app can be installed is 11. Anything older isn't supported, which is pretty big unfortunate for many people.
                          Btw.. Original Signal also offers two different versions of their app without google blobs included and with UnifiedPush. They are available on their page and from F-Droid repositories.

                          @dansup @kitkat

                          Carlos SolísC This user is from outside of this forum
                          Carlos SolísC This user is from outside of this forum
                          Carlos Solís
                          wrote last edited by
                          #59
                          Hold up, mainstream Signal has finally integrated MollySocket then?
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                          • T Radiation Craziness

                            @pwm Looks interesting, I don't think I've heard of Deltachat before. By far the biggest issue with new messaging apps is you have to get everyone you're talking to to switch too and I just got most of them to get Signal so I don't think I'm going to be able to get them to switch again lol

                            Pevin KinelP This user is from outside of this forum
                            Pevin KinelP This user is from outside of this forum
                            Pevin Kinel
                            wrote last edited by
                            #60

                            @techindepth27 @pwm just wanted to say that actually Delta's onboarding mechanism is the simplest and fastest i've seen. Start it the first time, write your name and that's it. Because it's not linked to a phone number nor pre-existing email, you don't have to go hunting for a confirmation link/code. Made the transition super smooth for a bunch of friends here

                            @delta

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                            • Carlos SolísC Carlos Solís
                              Hold up, mainstream Signal has finally integrated MollySocket then?
                              Carlos SolísC This user is from outside of this forum
                              Carlos SolísC This user is from outside of this forum
                              Carlos Solís
                              wrote last edited by
                              #61
                              Never mind, there is a version of Signal without Google libraries, but instead of using UnifiedPush like Molly does, Signal falls back to direct WebSockets, which requires much more battery consumption in the background unfortunately. github.com/signalapp/Signal-An…
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                              • KalonK Kalon

                                Its really too bad but it seems like Friendica isn't coded efficiently.

                                To a large degree Mastodon is working the same way, but the focus on friends first make it a better entry to the Fediverse for those coming from Facebook.

                                Really wish it performed better. Perhaps people smarter than me will get around to a complete rewrite. Probably in Rust.

                                @Drahngis

                                @dansup

                                Carlos SolísC This user is from outside of this forum
                                Carlos SolísC This user is from outside of this forum
                                Carlos Solís
                                wrote last edited by
                                #62
                                Friendica is a dinosaur that predates Mastodon and prides itself on being hostable in any web host that accepts PHP with versions as low as 7.4. A Rust rewrite would no longer be Friendica, unfortunately. There's also the zillion forks of it (Hubzilla, Zap, Osada, Streams to name a few) and those, too, are still based on PHP.
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                                • Carlos SolísC Carlos Solís
                                  Friendica is a dinosaur that predates Mastodon and prides itself on being hostable in any web host that accepts PHP with versions as low as 7.4. A Rust rewrite would no longer be Friendica, unfortunately. There's also the zillion forks of it (Hubzilla, Zap, Osada, Streams to name a few) and those, too, are still based on PHP.
                                  Carlos SolísC This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Carlos SolísC This user is from outside of this forum
                                  Carlos Solís
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #63
                                  However! Friendica very recently released a new version that finally does something about the slow queries, by adding a cache for network channels. It also includes a few quality-of-life improvements. friendi.ca/2026/01/27/friendic…
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                                  • dansupD dansup

                                    The Great Migration 🚀

                                    X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
                                    IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
                                    FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
                                    TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
                                    YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
                                    WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

                                    Ethical. Federated. Open.

                                    Spread the word ✨

                                    Paul Sutton (zleap)Z This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    Paul Sutton (zleap)
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #64

                                    @dansup @matrix @xmpp

                                    Linkedin -> https://nolto.social/

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                                    • dansupD dansup

                                      The Great Migration 🚀

                                      X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
                                      IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
                                      FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
                                      TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
                                      YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
                                      WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

                                      Ethical. Federated. Open.

                                      Spread the word ✨

                                      Nebelsturm_KakumeikaK This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Nebelsturm_KakumeikaK This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Nebelsturm_Kakumeika
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #65

                                      @dansup @matrix @xmpp

                                      windows->LINUX
                                      android->graphenOS
                                      microsoft office->libre office

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                                      • Paul Sutton (zleap)Z Paul Sutton (zleap)

                                        @dansup @matrix @xmpp

                                        Linkedin -> https://nolto.social/

                                        wakest ⁂L This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        wakest ⁂
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #66

                                        @zleap its a vibe coded thing that doesn't federate at all, and lies on the front page about what it supports, why are you spreading this link

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                                        • dansupD dansup

                                          The Great Migration 🚀

                                          X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
                                          IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
                                          FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
                                          TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
                                          YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
                                          WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

                                          Ethical. Federated. Open.

                                          Spread the word ✨

                                          TedelT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                          Tedel
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #67

                                          @dansup @matrix @xmpp

                                          I believe Diaspora* needs to be included in the next edition of this graphic.

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