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  • NéuroD Néuro

    @dansup friendica is horrible. just horrible, the other apps are great, but still have weird flaws. like in mastodon, if I see a post that is really really really really long it takes forever to scroll past it, especially if this person spams. there is no "see more" text to a long text. and in mastodon just replying to you, is a small window to the left of the post.

    peertube won't won't without money for the creators, somehow.

    KalonK This user is from outside of this forum
    KalonK This user is from outside of this forum
    Kalon
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    #50

    Its really too bad but it seems like Friendica isn't coded efficiently.

    To a large degree Mastodon is working the same way, but the focus on friends first make it a better entry to the Fediverse for those coming from Facebook.

    Really wish it performed better. Perhaps people smarter than me will get around to a complete rewrite. Probably in Rust.

    @Drahngis

    @dansup

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    • T Radiation Craziness

      @LightningToaster @hyc A quick search for "signal apk" brought me here... https://signal.org/android/apk/

      It even includes the fingerprint hash which you can verify with AppVerifier

      LightningToasterL This user is from outside of this forum
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      LightningToaster
      wrote last edited by
      #51

      @techindepth27 Okay so maybe nothing changed, and that is how I used to find it as well: Only findable through search engine. It simply cannot be found using the Signal website.

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      • dansupD dansup

        The Great Migration 🚀

        X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
        IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
        FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
        TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
        YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
        WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

        Ethical. Federated. Open.

        Spread the word ✨

        Toni AittoniemiG This user is from outside of this forum
        Toni AittoniemiG This user is from outside of this forum
        Toni Aittoniemi
        wrote last edited by
        #52

        @dansup @matrix @xmpp Signal might get legit banned. Both in USA and EU, actually.

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        • GustavoQ Gustavo

          @dansup Matrix crypto is bad. There are so many people recommending Signal alternatives with BAD cryptography just because it's not federated (some are even Signal forks with removed security features! ) that makes me urge two things:

          One: pressure Signal into becoming federated.

          Two: make people aware that there are plans to add E2EE to Mastodon and, IMHO, it will be better than Signal in some parts (e.g. on Signal you have to check safety numbers to see if no one is tampering with your connection, on Mastodon it will be automatic, like WhatsApp, but open-source, unlike WhatsApp).

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          Bonsai861
          wrote last edited by
          #53

          @qgustavor @dansup What's wrong with Matrix crpyto?

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          • dansupD dansup

            The Great Migration 🚀

            X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
            IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
            FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
            TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
            YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
            WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

            Ethical. Federated. Open.

            Spread the word ✨

            JustBobB This user is from outside of this forum
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            JustBob
            wrote last edited by
            #54

            @matrix @xmpp @dansup

            WhatsApp ➡️ #XMPP

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            • dansupD dansup

              The Great Migration 🚀

              X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
              IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
              FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
              TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
              YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
              WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

              Ethical. Federated. Open.

              Spread the word ✨

              Ray McCarthyR This user is from outside of this forum
              Ray McCarthyR This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote last edited by
              #55

              @dansup @matrix @xmpp
              Japanese owned Viber is a good alternative to WhatsApp.
              You can setup so only people in your phone contacts in advance can send, so then no adverts. Group or individual, with a group moderator. Text, voice, images, file transfer and Video.
              Encrypted.
              Skype was OK till wrecked by MS. Now it's gone.

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              • LightningToasterL LightningToaster

                @techindepth27 Okay so maybe nothing changed, and that is how I used to find it as well: Only findable through search engine. It simply cannot be found using the Signal website.

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                Radiation Craziness
                wrote last edited by
                #56

                @LightningToaster Yeah I see that.... that's probably not a good sign

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                • Carlos SolísC Carlos Solís
                  @MartinaNeumayer @dansup @kitkat Molly, a fork of Signal that, among other things, has already removed Signal's dependency on Google's Firebase Cloud Messaging by replacing it with UnifiedPush and their own MollySocket service, is also working to implement an open-source version of the server under the code name Flatline: github.com/mollyim/flatline-pl…
                  Martina NeumayerM This user is from outside of this forum
                  Martina NeumayerM This user is from outside of this forum
                  Martina Neumayer
                  wrote last edited by
                  #57

                  @csolisr Yes I know about it. But the problem with Molly is that, that they doesn't support older android versions anymore. If I remember correctly, the lowest system version on which the app can be installed is 11. Anything older isn't supported, which is pretty big unfortunate for many people.
                  Btw.. Original Signal also offers two different versions of their app without google blobs included and with UnifiedPush. They are available on their page and from F-Droid repositories.

                  @dansup @kitkat

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                  • dansupD dansup

                    The Great Migration 🚀

                    X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
                    IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
                    FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
                    TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
                    YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
                    WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

                    Ethical. Federated. Open.

                    Spread the word ✨

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                    ĞÖKÜ👻👻™
                    wrote last edited by
                    #58

                    @dansup @matrix @xmpp session ??

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                    • Martina NeumayerM Martina Neumayer

                      @csolisr Yes I know about it. But the problem with Molly is that, that they doesn't support older android versions anymore. If I remember correctly, the lowest system version on which the app can be installed is 11. Anything older isn't supported, which is pretty big unfortunate for many people.
                      Btw.. Original Signal also offers two different versions of their app without google blobs included and with UnifiedPush. They are available on their page and from F-Droid repositories.

                      @dansup @kitkat

                      Carlos SolísC This user is from outside of this forum
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                      Carlos Solís
                      wrote last edited by
                      #59
                      Hold up, mainstream Signal has finally integrated MollySocket then?
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                      • T Radiation Craziness

                        @pwm Looks interesting, I don't think I've heard of Deltachat before. By far the biggest issue with new messaging apps is you have to get everyone you're talking to to switch too and I just got most of them to get Signal so I don't think I'm going to be able to get them to switch again lol

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                        wrote last edited by
                        #60

                        @techindepth27 @pwm just wanted to say that actually Delta's onboarding mechanism is the simplest and fastest i've seen. Start it the first time, write your name and that's it. Because it's not linked to a phone number nor pre-existing email, you don't have to go hunting for a confirmation link/code. Made the transition super smooth for a bunch of friends here

                        @delta

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                        • Carlos SolísC Carlos Solís
                          Hold up, mainstream Signal has finally integrated MollySocket then?
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                          Carlos Solís
                          wrote last edited by
                          #61
                          Never mind, there is a version of Signal without Google libraries, but instead of using UnifiedPush like Molly does, Signal falls back to direct WebSockets, which requires much more battery consumption in the background unfortunately. github.com/signalapp/Signal-An…
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                          • KalonK Kalon

                            Its really too bad but it seems like Friendica isn't coded efficiently.

                            To a large degree Mastodon is working the same way, but the focus on friends first make it a better entry to the Fediverse for those coming from Facebook.

                            Really wish it performed better. Perhaps people smarter than me will get around to a complete rewrite. Probably in Rust.

                            @Drahngis

                            @dansup

                            Carlos SolísC This user is from outside of this forum
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                            Carlos Solís
                            wrote last edited by
                            #62
                            Friendica is a dinosaur that predates Mastodon and prides itself on being hostable in any web host that accepts PHP with versions as low as 7.4. A Rust rewrite would no longer be Friendica, unfortunately. There's also the zillion forks of it (Hubzilla, Zap, Osada, Streams to name a few) and those, too, are still based on PHP.
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                            • Carlos SolísC Carlos Solís
                              Friendica is a dinosaur that predates Mastodon and prides itself on being hostable in any web host that accepts PHP with versions as low as 7.4. A Rust rewrite would no longer be Friendica, unfortunately. There's also the zillion forks of it (Hubzilla, Zap, Osada, Streams to name a few) and those, too, are still based on PHP.
                              Carlos SolísC This user is from outside of this forum
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                              Carlos Solís
                              wrote last edited by
                              #63
                              However! Friendica very recently released a new version that finally does something about the slow queries, by adding a cache for network channels. It also includes a few quality-of-life improvements. friendi.ca/2026/01/27/friendic…
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                              • dansupD dansup

                                The Great Migration 🚀

                                X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
                                IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
                                FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
                                TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
                                YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
                                WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

                                Ethical. Federated. Open.

                                Spread the word ✨

                                Paul Sutton (zleap)Z This user is from outside of this forum
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                                Paul Sutton (zleap)
                                wrote last edited by
                                #64

                                @dansup @matrix @xmpp

                                Linkedin -> https://nolto.social/

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                                • dansupD dansup

                                  The Great Migration 🚀

                                  X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
                                  IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
                                  FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
                                  TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
                                  YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
                                  WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

                                  Ethical. Federated. Open.

                                  Spread the word ✨

                                  Nebelsturm_KakumeikaK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  Nebelsturm_Kakumeika
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #65

                                  @dansup @matrix @xmpp

                                  windows->LINUX
                                  android->graphenOS
                                  microsoft office->libre office

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                                  • Paul Sutton (zleap)Z Paul Sutton (zleap)

                                    @dansup @matrix @xmpp

                                    Linkedin -> https://nolto.social/

                                    wakest ⁂L This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    wakest ⁂
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #66

                                    @zleap its a vibe coded thing that doesn't federate at all, and lies on the front page about what it supports, why are you spreading this link

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                                    • dansupD dansup

                                      The Great Migration 🚀

                                      X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
                                      IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
                                      FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
                                      TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
                                      YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
                                      WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

                                      Ethical. Federated. Open.

                                      Spread the word ✨

                                      TedelT This user is from outside of this forum
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                                      Tedel
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #67

                                      @dansup @matrix @xmpp

                                      I believe Diaspora* needs to be included in the next edition of this graphic.

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                                      • Toni AittoniemiG Toni Aittoniemi

                                        @dansup @matrix @xmpp Signal might get legit banned. Both in USA and EU, actually.

                                        patoszP This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        patosz
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #68

                                        @gimulnautti @dansup @matrix @xmpp how come? what's the story?

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                                        • dansupD dansup

                                          The Great Migration 🚀

                                          X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
                                          IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
                                          FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
                                          TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
                                          YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
                                          WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

                                          Ethical. Federated. Open.

                                          Spread the word ✨

                                          contranymM This user is from outside of this forum
                                          contranymM This user is from outside of this forum
                                          contranym
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #69

                                          @dansup sadly, friendica was badly broken when i tried it. and i thought one point of federating was you would only need one account on one service and you could interact with other services on the fediverse. is this not the case? i still dont know how it works because ive only tried to add ppl from bsky, and i guess thats not actually federated, so it requires a bridge i didnt want to mess with. i have a hard enough time finding friends on diff masto instances.

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