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  • GustavoQ Gustavo

    @dansup Matrix crypto is bad. There are so many people recommending Signal alternatives with BAD cryptography just because it's not federated (some are even Signal forks with removed security features! ) that makes me urge two things:

    One: pressure Signal into becoming federated.

    Two: make people aware that there are plans to add E2EE to Mastodon and, IMHO, it will be better than Signal in some parts (e.g. on Signal you have to check safety numbers to see if no one is tampering with your connection, on Mastodon it will be automatic, like WhatsApp, but open-source, unlike WhatsApp).

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    Bonsai861
    wrote last edited by
    #53

    @qgustavor @dansup What's wrong with Matrix crpyto?

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    • dansupD dansup

      The Great Migration 🚀

      X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
      IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
      FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
      TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
      YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
      WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

      Ethical. Federated. Open.

      Spread the word ✨

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      JustBob
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      #54

      @matrix @xmpp @dansup

      WhatsApp ➡️ #XMPP

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      • dansupD dansup

        The Great Migration 🚀

        X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
        IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
        FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
        TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
        YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
        WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

        Ethical. Federated. Open.

        Spread the word ✨

        Ray McCarthyR This user is from outside of this forum
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        Ray McCarthy
        wrote last edited by
        #55

        @dansup @matrix @xmpp
        Japanese owned Viber is a good alternative to WhatsApp.
        You can setup so only people in your phone contacts in advance can send, so then no adverts. Group or individual, with a group moderator. Text, voice, images, file transfer and Video.
        Encrypted.
        Skype was OK till wrecked by MS. Now it's gone.

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        • LightningToasterL LightningToaster

          @techindepth27 Okay so maybe nothing changed, and that is how I used to find it as well: Only findable through search engine. It simply cannot be found using the Signal website.

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          Radiation Craziness
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          #56

          @LightningToaster Yeah I see that.... that's probably not a good sign

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          • Carlos SolísC Carlos Solís
            @MartinaNeumayer @dansup @kitkat Molly, a fork of Signal that, among other things, has already removed Signal's dependency on Google's Firebase Cloud Messaging by replacing it with UnifiedPush and their own MollySocket service, is also working to implement an open-source version of the server under the code name Flatline: github.com/mollyim/flatline-pl…
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            Martina Neumayer
            wrote last edited by
            #57

            @csolisr Yes I know about it. But the problem with Molly is that, that they doesn't support older android versions anymore. If I remember correctly, the lowest system version on which the app can be installed is 11. Anything older isn't supported, which is pretty big unfortunate for many people.
            Btw.. Original Signal also offers two different versions of their app without google blobs included and with UnifiedPush. They are available on their page and from F-Droid repositories.

            @dansup @kitkat

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            • dansupD dansup

              The Great Migration 🚀

              X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
              IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
              FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
              TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
              YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
              WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

              Ethical. Federated. Open.

              Spread the word ✨

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              ĞÖKÜ👻👻™
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              #58

              @dansup @matrix @xmpp session ??

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              • Martina NeumayerM Martina Neumayer

                @csolisr Yes I know about it. But the problem with Molly is that, that they doesn't support older android versions anymore. If I remember correctly, the lowest system version on which the app can be installed is 11. Anything older isn't supported, which is pretty big unfortunate for many people.
                Btw.. Original Signal also offers two different versions of their app without google blobs included and with UnifiedPush. They are available on their page and from F-Droid repositories.

                @dansup @kitkat

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                Carlos Solís
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                #59
                Hold up, mainstream Signal has finally integrated MollySocket then?
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                • T Radiation Craziness

                  @pwm Looks interesting, I don't think I've heard of Deltachat before. By far the biggest issue with new messaging apps is you have to get everyone you're talking to to switch too and I just got most of them to get Signal so I don't think I'm going to be able to get them to switch again lol

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                  Pevin Kinel
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                  #60

                  @techindepth27 @pwm just wanted to say that actually Delta's onboarding mechanism is the simplest and fastest i've seen. Start it the first time, write your name and that's it. Because it's not linked to a phone number nor pre-existing email, you don't have to go hunting for a confirmation link/code. Made the transition super smooth for a bunch of friends here

                  @delta

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                  • Carlos SolísC Carlos Solís
                    Hold up, mainstream Signal has finally integrated MollySocket then?
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                    Carlos Solís
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                    #61
                    Never mind, there is a version of Signal without Google libraries, but instead of using UnifiedPush like Molly does, Signal falls back to direct WebSockets, which requires much more battery consumption in the background unfortunately. github.com/signalapp/Signal-An…
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                    • KalonK Kalon

                      Its really too bad but it seems like Friendica isn't coded efficiently.

                      To a large degree Mastodon is working the same way, but the focus on friends first make it a better entry to the Fediverse for those coming from Facebook.

                      Really wish it performed better. Perhaps people smarter than me will get around to a complete rewrite. Probably in Rust.

                      @Drahngis

                      @dansup

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                      Carlos Solís
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                      #62
                      Friendica is a dinosaur that predates Mastodon and prides itself on being hostable in any web host that accepts PHP with versions as low as 7.4. A Rust rewrite would no longer be Friendica, unfortunately. There's also the zillion forks of it (Hubzilla, Zap, Osada, Streams to name a few) and those, too, are still based on PHP.
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                      • Carlos SolísC Carlos Solís
                        Friendica is a dinosaur that predates Mastodon and prides itself on being hostable in any web host that accepts PHP with versions as low as 7.4. A Rust rewrite would no longer be Friendica, unfortunately. There's also the zillion forks of it (Hubzilla, Zap, Osada, Streams to name a few) and those, too, are still based on PHP.
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                        Carlos Solís
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                        #63
                        However! Friendica very recently released a new version that finally does something about the slow queries, by adding a cache for network channels. It also includes a few quality-of-life improvements. friendi.ca/2026/01/27/friendic…
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                        • dansupD dansup

                          The Great Migration 🚀

                          X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
                          IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
                          FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
                          TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
                          YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
                          WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

                          Ethical. Federated. Open.

                          Spread the word ✨

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                          Paul Sutton (zleap)
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                          @dansup @matrix @xmpp

                          Linkedin -> https://nolto.social/

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                          • dansupD dansup

                            The Great Migration 🚀

                            X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
                            IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
                            FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
                            TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
                            YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
                            WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

                            Ethical. Federated. Open.

                            Spread the word ✨

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                            Nebelsturm_Kakumeika
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                            #65

                            @dansup @matrix @xmpp

                            windows->LINUX
                            android->graphenOS
                            microsoft office->libre office

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                            • Paul Sutton (zleap)Z Paul Sutton (zleap)

                              @dansup @matrix @xmpp

                              Linkedin -> https://nolto.social/

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                              wakest ⁂
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                              #66

                              @zleap its a vibe coded thing that doesn't federate at all, and lies on the front page about what it supports, why are you spreading this link

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                              • dansupD dansup

                                The Great Migration 🚀

                                X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
                                IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
                                FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
                                TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
                                YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
                                WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

                                Ethical. Federated. Open.

                                Spread the word ✨

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                                Tedel
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                                #67

                                @dansup @matrix @xmpp

                                I believe Diaspora* needs to be included in the next edition of this graphic.

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                                • Toni AittoniemiG Toni Aittoniemi

                                  @dansup @matrix @xmpp Signal might get legit banned. Both in USA and EU, actually.

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                                  patosz
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                                  #68

                                  @gimulnautti @dansup @matrix @xmpp how come? what's the story?

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                                  • dansupD dansup

                                    The Great Migration 🚀

                                    X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
                                    IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
                                    FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
                                    TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
                                    YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
                                    WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

                                    Ethical. Federated. Open.

                                    Spread the word ✨

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                                    contranym
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #69

                                    @dansup sadly, friendica was badly broken when i tried it. and i thought one point of federating was you would only need one account on one service and you could interact with other services on the fediverse. is this not the case? i still dont know how it works because ive only tried to add ppl from bsky, and i guess thats not actually federated, so it requires a bridge i didnt want to mess with. i have a hard enough time finding friends on diff masto instances.

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                                    • NéuroD Néuro

                                      @dansup friendica is horrible. just horrible, the other apps are great, but still have weird flaws. like in mastodon, if I see a post that is really really really really long it takes forever to scroll past it, especially if this person spams. there is no "see more" text to a long text. and in mastodon just replying to you, is a small window to the left of the post.

                                      peertube won't won't without money for the creators, somehow.

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                                      shadowwwind
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #70

                                      @Drahngis @dansup the long text thing is a client issue, there are multiple clients that solve that. I believe the Webinterface collapses long text. Moshiodon certainly does.

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                                      • dansupD dansup

                                        The Great Migration 🚀

                                        X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
                                        IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
                                        FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
                                        TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
                                        YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
                                        WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

                                        Ethical. Federated. Open.

                                        Spread the word ✨

                                        *The* Paul BrownB This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        *The* Paul Brown
                                        wrote last edited by
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                                        @dansup @matrix @xmpp

                                        So why don't you do it properly? It's not that hard:

                                        X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
                                        IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
                                        FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
                                        TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
                                        YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
                                        WhatsApp ➡️ https://matrix.org

                                        You're welcome.

                                        Fuck Signal.

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                                        • damianwalshD damianwalsh

                                          @dansup LinkedIn → ? Someone should do that, just sayin’

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                                          George B
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                                          #72

                                          @dansup @damianwalsh

                                          I found one a couple of weeks ago and made an account but lost the URL and it seems to be completely unsearchable.

                                          Maybe someone else will post it in the replies but that isn't really a good sign.

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