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  • Carlos SolísC Carlos Solís
    Hold up, mainstream Signal has finally integrated MollySocket then?
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    Carlos Solís
    wrote last edited by
    #61
    Never mind, there is a version of Signal without Google libraries, but instead of using UnifiedPush like Molly does, Signal falls back to direct WebSockets, which requires much more battery consumption in the background unfortunately. github.com/signalapp/Signal-An…
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    • KalonK Kalon

      Its really too bad but it seems like Friendica isn't coded efficiently.

      To a large degree Mastodon is working the same way, but the focus on friends first make it a better entry to the Fediverse for those coming from Facebook.

      Really wish it performed better. Perhaps people smarter than me will get around to a complete rewrite. Probably in Rust.

      @Drahngis

      @dansup

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      Carlos Solís
      wrote last edited by
      #62
      Friendica is a dinosaur that predates Mastodon and prides itself on being hostable in any web host that accepts PHP with versions as low as 7.4. A Rust rewrite would no longer be Friendica, unfortunately. There's also the zillion forks of it (Hubzilla, Zap, Osada, Streams to name a few) and those, too, are still based on PHP.
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      • Carlos SolísC Carlos Solís
        Friendica is a dinosaur that predates Mastodon and prides itself on being hostable in any web host that accepts PHP with versions as low as 7.4. A Rust rewrite would no longer be Friendica, unfortunately. There's also the zillion forks of it (Hubzilla, Zap, Osada, Streams to name a few) and those, too, are still based on PHP.
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        wrote last edited by
        #63
        However! Friendica very recently released a new version that finally does something about the slow queries, by adding a cache for network channels. It also includes a few quality-of-life improvements. friendi.ca/2026/01/27/friendic…
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        • dansupD dansup

          The Great Migration 🚀

          X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
          IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
          FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
          TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
          YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
          WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

          Ethical. Federated. Open.

          Spread the word ✨

          Paul Sutton (zleap)Z This user is from outside of this forum
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          Paul Sutton (zleap)
          wrote last edited by
          #64

          @dansup @matrix @xmpp

          Linkedin -> https://nolto.social/

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          • dansupD dansup

            The Great Migration 🚀

            X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
            IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
            FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
            TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
            YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
            WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

            Ethical. Federated. Open.

            Spread the word ✨

            Nebelsturm_KakumeikaK This user is from outside of this forum
            Nebelsturm_KakumeikaK This user is from outside of this forum
            Nebelsturm_Kakumeika
            wrote last edited by
            #65

            @dansup @matrix @xmpp

            windows->LINUX
            android->graphenOS
            microsoft office->libre office

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            • Paul Sutton (zleap)Z Paul Sutton (zleap)

              @dansup @matrix @xmpp

              Linkedin -> https://nolto.social/

              wakest ⁂L This user is from outside of this forum
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              wrote last edited by
              #66

              @zleap its a vibe coded thing that doesn't federate at all, and lies on the front page about what it supports, why are you spreading this link

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              • dansupD dansup

                The Great Migration 🚀

                X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
                IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
                FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
                TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
                YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
                WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

                Ethical. Federated. Open.

                Spread the word ✨

                TedelT This user is from outside of this forum
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                Tedel
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                #67

                @dansup @matrix @xmpp

                I believe Diaspora* needs to be included in the next edition of this graphic.

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                • Toni AittoniemiG Toni Aittoniemi

                  @dansup @matrix @xmpp Signal might get legit banned. Both in USA and EU, actually.

                  patoszP This user is from outside of this forum
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                  #68

                  @gimulnautti @dansup @matrix @xmpp how come? what's the story?

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                  • dansupD dansup

                    The Great Migration 🚀

                    X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
                    IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
                    FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
                    TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
                    YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
                    WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

                    Ethical. Federated. Open.

                    Spread the word ✨

                    contranymM This user is from outside of this forum
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                    contranym
                    wrote last edited by
                    #69

                    @dansup sadly, friendica was badly broken when i tried it. and i thought one point of federating was you would only need one account on one service and you could interact with other services on the fediverse. is this not the case? i still dont know how it works because ive only tried to add ppl from bsky, and i guess thats not actually federated, so it requires a bridge i didnt want to mess with. i have a hard enough time finding friends on diff masto instances.

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                    • NéuroD Néuro

                      @dansup friendica is horrible. just horrible, the other apps are great, but still have weird flaws. like in mastodon, if I see a post that is really really really really long it takes forever to scroll past it, especially if this person spams. there is no "see more" text to a long text. and in mastodon just replying to you, is a small window to the left of the post.

                      peertube won't won't without money for the creators, somehow.

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                      wrote last edited by
                      #70

                      @Drahngis @dansup the long text thing is a client issue, there are multiple clients that solve that. I believe the Webinterface collapses long text. Moshiodon certainly does.

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                      • dansupD dansup

                        The Great Migration 🚀

                        X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
                        IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
                        FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
                        TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
                        YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
                        WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

                        Ethical. Federated. Open.

                        Spread the word ✨

                        *The* Paul BrownB This user is from outside of this forum
                        *The* Paul BrownB This user is from outside of this forum
                        *The* Paul Brown
                        wrote last edited by
                        #71

                        @dansup @matrix @xmpp

                        So why don't you do it properly? It's not that hard:

                        X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
                        IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
                        FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
                        TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
                        YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
                        WhatsApp ➡️ https://matrix.org

                        You're welcome.

                        Fuck Signal.

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                        • damianwalshD damianwalsh

                          @dansup LinkedIn → ? Someone should do that, just sayin’

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                          #72

                          @dansup @damianwalsh

                          I found one a couple of weeks ago and made an account but lost the URL and it seems to be completely unsearchable.

                          Maybe someone else will post it in the replies but that isn't really a good sign.

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                          • dansupD dansup

                            The Great Migration 🚀

                            X ➡️ https://joinmastodon.org
                            IG ➡️ https://pixelfed.org
                            FB ➡️ https://friendi.ca
                            TikTok ➡️ https://joinloops.org
                            YouTube ➡️ https://joinpeertube.org
                            WhatsApp ➡️ https://signal.org

                            Ethical. Federated. Open.

                            Spread the word ✨

                            AmalA This user is from outside of this forum
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                            Amal
                            wrote last edited by
                            #73

                            @dansup @matrix @xmpp
                            Beautiful 👌

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                            • A anon_4601

                              @dansup

                              #WhatsAppAlternatives #METABoycott #USAboycott

                              European privacy-friendly options, I’m not an expert. What do you think about these? Did I miss anything?

                              🏆️ SESSION 🇨🇭*
                              Focus on high anonymity.
                              Decentralized network , easy to use.
                              No phone, ID or email required
                              Open Source. FREE

                              🏆️ SIMPLEX 🇬🇧*
                              Focus on maximum privacy
                              No user IDs or phone numbers required.
                              Open Source. FREE

                              🎖️ THREEMA 🇨🇭***
                              Very popular in Germany
                              Uses anonymous 8-digit Threema ID. Proprietary code (but audited) 1 time 5€

                              DELTA CHAT 🇩🇪 *
                              Super easy to use, user can open an account just with a nick name. No user IDs or phone numbers required.
                              Open Source. FREE

                              ELEMENT / MATRIX 🇬🇧*
                              Perfect for secure communication.
                              Federated (choose your server).
                              Communicate with anyone using Matrix protocol applications. Open Source. FREE

                              SIGNAL 🇺🇸 🚫 ***
                              Requires a Phone, metadata concerns ‼️
                              FREE

                              *Open Source
                              **Proprietary
                              ***Hybrid 50%-50%

                              Comparison by
                              https://
                              eylenburg.github.io/im_comparison.htm

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                              bjoern
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                              #74

                              @anon_4601 @dansup #deltachat does not require a phone number nor you have to provide your address nor a SIM card is required.

                              you can use it even without a phone.

                              it uses SMTP/IMAP under the hood, with a random address. nothing is persisted on the server, for metadata, see https://delta.chat/en/help#message-metadata

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                              • contranymM contranym

                                @dansup sadly, friendica was badly broken when i tried it. and i thought one point of federating was you would only need one account on one service and you could interact with other services on the fediverse. is this not the case? i still dont know how it works because ive only tried to add ppl from bsky, and i guess thats not actually federated, so it requires a bridge i didnt want to mess with. i have a hard enough time finding friends on diff masto instances.

                                SamS This user is from outside of this forum
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                                Sam
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                                #75

                                @makeitmythic@mastodon.social Bluesky uses a different protocol and isn't apart of the Fediverse without the @bsky.brid.gy@bsky.brid.gy bridge what needs to go both ways.

                                When it comes to the Fediverse you sometimes need other accounts but it depends on the sort of experience you want, I work fine off a Microblogging account for most of my interactions, I use a software called Sharkey for more usability and it allows me to follow users off Loops, PixelFed, Mastodon, PeerTube or Lemmy but it's a little annoying / needs some work arounds to post onto Lemmy, PixelFed is easy to post my stuff onto as I simply need an image in the post. PeerTube and Loops are kinda a no go for them seeing my content even if I upload a video sadly but that's fine if you don't want to be a creator in that matter.

                                These systems like Loops are new or even in BETA so it'll take some time to make sure these work all together but it also depends on the people using it, if you feel like a feature is missing voice about it, see who has the same opinion, if you have tech knowledge code it.

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                                • SamS Sam

                                  @makeitmythic@mastodon.social Bluesky uses a different protocol and isn't apart of the Fediverse without the @bsky.brid.gy@bsky.brid.gy bridge what needs to go both ways.

                                  When it comes to the Fediverse you sometimes need other accounts but it depends on the sort of experience you want, I work fine off a Microblogging account for most of my interactions, I use a software called Sharkey for more usability and it allows me to follow users off Loops, PixelFed, Mastodon, PeerTube or Lemmy but it's a little annoying / needs some work arounds to post onto Lemmy, PixelFed is easy to post my stuff onto as I simply need an image in the post. PeerTube and Loops are kinda a no go for them seeing my content even if I upload a video sadly but that's fine if you don't want to be a creator in that matter.

                                  These systems like Loops are new or even in BETA so it'll take some time to make sure these work all together but it also depends on the people using it, if you feel like a feature is missing voice about it, see who has the same opinion, if you have tech knowledge code it.

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                                  contranym
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                                  #76

                                  @sam yeah, i already knew bsky wasnt truly federated, and thats why i gave up on trying to interact with it. the only other services im possibly interested in are peertube and lemmy, but i have enough problems just trying to interact with friends on the same instance (mastodon.social). when i post about an issue, i usually get no interaction or people asking me what my server setup is like, and sadly i have no coding knowledge. i wish things Just Worked a bit better for people in an expected way

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                                  • bjoernR bjoern

                                    @anon_4601 @dansup #deltachat does not require a phone number nor you have to provide your address nor a SIM card is required.

                                    you can use it even without a phone.

                                    it uses SMTP/IMAP under the hood, with a random address. nothing is persisted on the server, for metadata, see https://delta.chat/en/help#message-metadata

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                                    anon_4601
                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #77

                                    @r10s @dansup

                                    Oh wow. Okay, thst's just great!
                                    When I opened Deltachat some time a ago, an email address was require.

                                    However I just tested this by installing DeltaChat on a LinuxPC and opened an account just by entering a nickname.

                                    You're absolutely right, nothing is required at all. Thank you for pointing this out to me, I'll fix my post right away!
                                    Thanks again.

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                                    • contranymM contranym

                                      @sam yeah, i already knew bsky wasnt truly federated, and thats why i gave up on trying to interact with it. the only other services im possibly interested in are peertube and lemmy, but i have enough problems just trying to interact with friends on the same instance (mastodon.social). when i post about an issue, i usually get no interaction or people asking me what my server setup is like, and sadly i have no coding knowledge. i wish things Just Worked a bit better for people in an expected way

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                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #78

                                      @makeitmythic@mastodon.social I really suggest that people don't crowd mastodon.social as feeds are chronological it gets flooded with stuff making it hard to get interaction. Also a key friend is hashtags they always help get things out there, interaction no matter what is a key thing as often posting into the void doesn't really do much.

                                      Also to interact with a Lemmy community you simply mention that community as apart of your post and it'll be boosted onto it.

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                                      • SamS Sam

                                        @makeitmythic@mastodon.social I really suggest that people don't crowd mastodon.social as feeds are chronological it gets flooded with stuff making it hard to get interaction. Also a key friend is hashtags they always help get things out there, interaction no matter what is a key thing as often posting into the void doesn't really do much.

                                        Also to interact with a Lemmy community you simply mention that community as apart of your post and it'll be boosted onto it.

                                        contranymM This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        contranym
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #79

                                        @sam yeah, i just wanted a large community to be a part of. i use hashtags and get maybe 3 people to like a post, most of my engagement is in comments like these, but i rarely find answers that are viable. i want to be able to add friends from lemmy and see them in my masto feed but idk if thats possible.

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                                        • contranymM contranym

                                          @sam yeah, i just wanted a large community to be a part of. i use hashtags and get maybe 3 people to like a post, most of my engagement is in comments like these, but i rarely find answers that are viable. i want to be able to add friends from lemmy and see them in my masto feed but idk if thats possible.

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                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #80

                                          @makeitmythic@mastodon.social Yes it's totally possible, Lemmy communities are completely followable along with the Lemmy users. Well they won't see any of your normal microblogging posts they can see your stuff boosted from mentioning the Lemmy Community.

                                          3 people liking your post is still good, I don't often get likes but when people like, boost and comment on my posts I know that I've create and shared something where it needs to be and people want to hear it. In the end this is a space for communication and yes sometimes you're wrong place and the wrong time but other times it's just right.

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