The Great Migration 🚀
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@hyc Just a heads up, apparently the official F-droid app has some security issues and isn't recommended. I've used Neo-Store and @droidify Also as @LightningToaster mentioned, you'll need to add the @guardianproject repo in the settings to get Signal to show up
@techindepth27 @droidify @LightningToaster @guardianproject signal website only sends me to google play. My fdroid app must've been out of date because even enabling the guardian repo, still didn't show signal app. Droidify worked, and the new apk is running now, thanks.
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@zetabeta this is a P60 Pro on de-googled Android.
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@techindepth27 @droidify @LightningToaster @guardianproject signal website only sends me to google play. My fdroid app must've been out of date because even enabling the guardian repo, still didn't show signal app. Droidify worked, and the new apk is running now, thanks.
@hyc Oh yeah, weird, I notice that too now. It seems they have removed the .apk download option from the site.
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The Great Migration
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️ https://joinmastodon.org
IG️ https://pixelfed.org
FB️ https://friendi.ca
TikTok️ https://joinloops.org
YouTube️ https://joinpeertube.org
WhatsApp️ https://signal.orgEthical. Federated. Open.
Spread the word
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The Great Migration
X
️ https://joinmastodon.org
IG️ https://pixelfed.org
FB️ https://friendi.ca
TikTok️ https://joinloops.org
YouTube️ https://joinpeertube.org
WhatsApp️ https://signal.orgEthical. Federated. Open.
Spread the word
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@hyc Oh yeah, weird, I notice that too now. It seems they have removed the .apk download option from the site.
@LightningToaster @hyc A quick search for "signal apk" brought me here... https://signal.org/android/apk/
It even includes the fingerprint hash which you can verify with AppVerifier
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@dansup friendica is horrible. just horrible, the other apps are great, but still have weird flaws. like in mastodon, if I see a post that is really really really really long it takes forever to scroll past it, especially if this person spams. there is no "see more" text to a long text. and in mastodon just replying to you, is a small window to the left of the post.
peertube won't won't without money for the creators, somehow.
Its really too bad but it seems like Friendica isn't coded efficiently.
To a large degree Mastodon is working the same way, but the focus on friends first make it a better entry to the Fediverse for those coming from Facebook.
Really wish it performed better. Perhaps people smarter than me will get around to a complete rewrite. Probably in Rust.
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@LightningToaster @hyc A quick search for "signal apk" brought me here... https://signal.org/android/apk/
It even includes the fingerprint hash which you can verify with AppVerifier
@techindepth27 Okay so maybe nothing changed, and that is how I used to find it as well: Only findable through search engine. It simply cannot be found using the Signal website.
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The Great Migration
X
️ https://joinmastodon.org
IG️ https://pixelfed.org
FB️ https://friendi.ca
TikTok️ https://joinloops.org
YouTube️ https://joinpeertube.org
WhatsApp️ https://signal.orgEthical. Federated. Open.
Spread the word
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@dansup Matrix crypto is bad. There are so many people recommending Signal alternatives with BAD cryptography just because it's not federated (some are even Signal forks with removed security features!
) that makes me urge two things:One: pressure Signal into becoming federated.
Two: make people aware that there are plans to add E2EE to Mastodon and, IMHO, it will be better than Signal in some parts (e.g. on Signal you have to check safety numbers to see if no one is tampering with your connection, on Mastodon it will be automatic, like WhatsApp, but open-source, unlike WhatsApp).
@qgustavor @dansup What's wrong with Matrix crpyto?
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The Great Migration
X
️ https://joinmastodon.org
IG️ https://pixelfed.org
FB️ https://friendi.ca
TikTok️ https://joinloops.org
YouTube️ https://joinpeertube.org
WhatsApp️ https://signal.orgEthical. Federated. Open.
Spread the word
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The Great Migration
X
️ https://joinmastodon.org
IG️ https://pixelfed.org
FB️ https://friendi.ca
TikTok️ https://joinloops.org
YouTube️ https://joinpeertube.org
WhatsApp️ https://signal.orgEthical. Federated. Open.
Spread the word
@dansup @matrix @xmpp
Japanese owned Viber is a good alternative to WhatsApp.
You can setup so only people in your phone contacts in advance can send, so then no adverts. Group or individual, with a group moderator. Text, voice, images, file transfer and Video.
Encrypted.
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@techindepth27 Okay so maybe nothing changed, and that is how I used to find it as well: Only findable through search engine. It simply cannot be found using the Signal website.
@LightningToaster Yeah I see that.... that's probably not a good sign
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@MartinaNeumayer @dansup @kitkat Molly, a fork of Signal that, among other things, has already removed Signal's dependency on Google's Firebase Cloud Messaging by replacing it with UnifiedPush and their own MollySocket service, is also working to implement an open-source version of the server under the code name Flatline: github.com/mollyim/flatline-pl…
@csolisr Yes I know about it. But the problem with Molly is that, that they doesn't support older android versions anymore. If I remember correctly, the lowest system version on which the app can be installed is 11. Anything older isn't supported, which is pretty big unfortunate for many people.
Btw.. Original Signal also offers two different versions of their app without google blobs included and with UnifiedPush. They are available on their page and from F-Droid repositories. -
The Great Migration
X
️ https://joinmastodon.org
IG️ https://pixelfed.org
FB️ https://friendi.ca
TikTok️ https://joinloops.org
YouTube️ https://joinpeertube.org
WhatsApp️ https://signal.orgEthical. Federated. Open.
Spread the word
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@csolisr Yes I know about it. But the problem with Molly is that, that they doesn't support older android versions anymore. If I remember correctly, the lowest system version on which the app can be installed is 11. Anything older isn't supported, which is pretty big unfortunate for many people.
Btw.. Original Signal also offers two different versions of their app without google blobs included and with UnifiedPush. They are available on their page and from F-Droid repositories.Hold up, mainstream Signal has finally integrated MollySocket then? -
@pwm Looks interesting, I don't think I've heard of Deltachat before. By far the biggest issue with new messaging apps is you have to get everyone you're talking to to switch too and I just got most of them to get Signal so I don't think I'm going to be able to get them to switch again lol
@techindepth27 @pwm just wanted to say that actually Delta's onboarding mechanism is the simplest and fastest i've seen. Start it the first time, write your name and that's it. Because it's not linked to a phone number nor pre-existing email, you don't have to go hunting for a confirmation link/code. Made the transition super smooth for a bunch of friends here
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Hold up, mainstream Signal has finally integrated MollySocket then?Never mind, there is a version of Signal without Google libraries, but instead of using UnifiedPush like Molly does, Signal falls back to direct WebSockets, which requires much more battery consumption in the background unfortunately. github.com/signalapp/Signal-An…
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Its really too bad but it seems like Friendica isn't coded efficiently.
To a large degree Mastodon is working the same way, but the focus on friends first make it a better entry to the Fediverse for those coming from Facebook.
Really wish it performed better. Perhaps people smarter than me will get around to a complete rewrite. Probably in Rust.
Friendica is a dinosaur that predates Mastodon and prides itself on being hostable in any web host that accepts PHP with versions as low as 7.4. A Rust rewrite would no longer be Friendica, unfortunately. There's also the zillion forks of it (Hubzilla, Zap, Osada, Streams to name a few) and those, too, are still based on PHP.
