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  • AkaSci 🛰️A AkaSci 🛰️

    To keep the clueless masses intoxicated, SpaceX threw in these flowery words in the FCC filing -

    "Launching a constellation of a million satellites that operate as orbital data centers is a first step towards becoming a Kardashev II-level civilization—one that can harness the Sun’s full power—while supporting AI-driven applications for billions of people today and ensuring humanity’s multi-planetary future amongst the stars."

    Earth must be destroyed to save it?

    https://www.scribd.com/document/990116826/Orbital-Data-Center-LOA-Narrative
    2/n

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    @AkaSci his hubris is insufferable

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    • AkaSci 🛰️A AkaSci 🛰️

      New FCC filing by SpaceX for constellation of million data center satellites for AI apps.

      # of sats: up to 1 million!
      Orbit: 500 km and 2,000 km altitude and 30°inclinations. Multiple orbital shells 50 km apart.
      Cooling: radiative
      Schedule: unspecified
      Sat size, weight, power, cost, ..: unspecified
      Launches: millions of tons of mass per year

      There goes the neighborhood.
      Or is this just marketing fluff and orbital hoarding?

      @sundogplanets
      https://www.scribd.com/document/990116826/Orbital-Data-Center-LOA-Narrative
      https://fccprod.servicenowservices.com/icfs?id=ibfs_application_summary&number=SAT-LOA-20260108-00016
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      @AkaSci @sundogplanets
      BONKERS!

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      • AkaSci 🛰️A AkaSci 🛰️

        To keep the clueless masses intoxicated, SpaceX threw in these flowery words in the FCC filing -

        "Launching a constellation of a million satellites that operate as orbital data centers is a first step towards becoming a Kardashev II-level civilization—one that can harness the Sun’s full power—while supporting AI-driven applications for billions of people today and ensuring humanity’s multi-planetary future amongst the stars."

        Earth must be destroyed to save it?

        https://www.scribd.com/document/990116826/Orbital-Data-Center-LOA-Narrative
        2/n

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        @AkaSci We won't be able to explore outer space because we will be trapped with near-orbit satellite debris. No really. We'll be entombed in SpaceX floaties.

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        • AkaSci 🛰️A AkaSci 🛰️

          To keep the clueless masses intoxicated, SpaceX threw in these flowery words in the FCC filing -

          "Launching a constellation of a million satellites that operate as orbital data centers is a first step towards becoming a Kardashev II-level civilization—one that can harness the Sun’s full power—while supporting AI-driven applications for billions of people today and ensuring humanity’s multi-planetary future amongst the stars."

          Earth must be destroyed to save it?

          https://www.scribd.com/document/990116826/Orbital-Data-Center-LOA-Narrative
          2/n

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          @AkaSci and all ground-based astronomy can just fsck off, right? 😡

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          • AkaSci 🛰️A AkaSci 🛰️

            To keep the clueless masses intoxicated, SpaceX threw in these flowery words in the FCC filing -

            "Launching a constellation of a million satellites that operate as orbital data centers is a first step towards becoming a Kardashev II-level civilization—one that can harness the Sun’s full power—while supporting AI-driven applications for billions of people today and ensuring humanity’s multi-planetary future amongst the stars."

            Earth must be destroyed to save it?

            https://www.scribd.com/document/990116826/Orbital-Data-Center-LOA-Narrative
            2/n

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            @AkaSci Just in case anyone needs to see it: this can't work with today's or even near-future technology.

            https://pivot-to-ai.com/2025/12/01/ai-data-centres-in-space-why-dcs-in-space-cant-work

            #OrbitalAI #DataCentersInSpaceCantWork

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            • AkaSci 🛰️A AkaSci 🛰️

              New FCC filing by SpaceX for constellation of million data center satellites for AI apps.

              # of sats: up to 1 million!
              Orbit: 500 km and 2,000 km altitude and 30°inclinations. Multiple orbital shells 50 km apart.
              Cooling: radiative
              Schedule: unspecified
              Sat size, weight, power, cost, ..: unspecified
              Launches: millions of tons of mass per year

              There goes the neighborhood.
              Or is this just marketing fluff and orbital hoarding?

              @sundogplanets
              https://www.scribd.com/document/990116826/Orbital-Data-Center-LOA-Narrative
              https://fccprod.servicenowservices.com/icfs?id=ibfs_application_summary&number=SAT-LOA-20260108-00016
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              @AkaSci @sundogplanets If any of you need talking points related to NOT building AI Data centers... straight from the horses mouth. Elon admits environmental impacts AND that AI is outpacing earth's ability to effectively build and manage them.

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              • AkaSci 🛰️A AkaSci 🛰️

                To keep the clueless masses intoxicated, SpaceX threw in these flowery words in the FCC filing -

                "Launching a constellation of a million satellites that operate as orbital data centers is a first step towards becoming a Kardashev II-level civilization—one that can harness the Sun’s full power—while supporting AI-driven applications for billions of people today and ensuring humanity’s multi-planetary future amongst the stars."

                Earth must be destroyed to save it?

                https://www.scribd.com/document/990116826/Orbital-Data-Center-LOA-Narrative
                2/n

                AkaSci 🛰️A This user is from outside of this forum
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                The filing is short on details and long on lofty goals and promises.

                And also a bit sloppy -
                "Global electricity demand for data centers is projected to more than double by 2035 driven by growth in AI — reaching ~1,200-1,700 Terawatt hours and ..."

                You gotta specify TW or TW-hours per month or per year.

                Also, I suspect the million satellite number comes from 1 million * 100 kw = 100 GW total power.

                For comparison, Starlink v3 satellites will generate 20 kW with a 60x8 m array.

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                • AkaSci 🛰️A AkaSci 🛰️

                  New FCC filing by SpaceX for constellation of million data center satellites for AI apps.

                  # of sats: up to 1 million!
                  Orbit: 500 km and 2,000 km altitude and 30°inclinations. Multiple orbital shells 50 km apart.
                  Cooling: radiative
                  Schedule: unspecified
                  Sat size, weight, power, cost, ..: unspecified
                  Launches: millions of tons of mass per year

                  There goes the neighborhood.
                  Or is this just marketing fluff and orbital hoarding?

                  @sundogplanets
                  https://www.scribd.com/document/990116826/Orbital-Data-Center-LOA-Narrative
                  https://fccprod.servicenowservices.com/icfs?id=ibfs_application_summary&number=SAT-LOA-20260108-00016
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                  @AkaSci @sundogplanets OK, this has gone far enough. Does anyone actually have a way of shooting these fucking things down as they launch? Just asking.

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                    @AkaSci @sundogplanets Nothing about this makes any practical sense from a computer engineering perspective.

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                    @donaldball @AkaSci @sundogplanets especially when we could simply lay more fiber trunks across the world (technology that already exists and is awesome) and achieve multiple magnitudes more bandwidth for more people at far greater speeds and consistencies! But that wouldn't further inflate Musk's wealth so we can't have that!

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                    • AkaSci 🛰️A AkaSci 🛰️

                      New FCC filing by SpaceX for constellation of million data center satellites for AI apps.

                      # of sats: up to 1 million!
                      Orbit: 500 km and 2,000 km altitude and 30°inclinations. Multiple orbital shells 50 km apart.
                      Cooling: radiative
                      Schedule: unspecified
                      Sat size, weight, power, cost, ..: unspecified
                      Launches: millions of tons of mass per year

                      There goes the neighborhood.
                      Or is this just marketing fluff and orbital hoarding?

                      @sundogplanets
                      https://www.scribd.com/document/990116826/Orbital-Data-Center-LOA-Narrative
                      https://fccprod.servicenowservices.com/icfs?id=ibfs_application_summary&number=SAT-LOA-20260108-00016
                      1/n

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                      @AkaSci @sundogplanets we should start crowdfunding "Kessler Takedown Rockets"

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                      • AkaSci 🛰️A AkaSci 🛰️

                        The filing is short on details and long on lofty goals and promises.

                        And also a bit sloppy -
                        "Global electricity demand for data centers is projected to more than double by 2035 driven by growth in AI — reaching ~1,200-1,700 Terawatt hours and ..."

                        You gotta specify TW or TW-hours per month or per year.

                        Also, I suspect the million satellite number comes from 1 million * 100 kw = 100 GW total power.

                        For comparison, Starlink v3 satellites will generate 20 kW with a 60x8 m array.

                        3/n

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                        A blunt assessment of "AI datacenters in space” by Prof. Matthew Buckley in Dec 2025 -

                        "To be blunt, the entire stupid idea is a giant middle finger to multiple fundamentals of physics, and the fact that it is apparently being taken seriously by our tech lords, mainstream journalism, and political leaders is a damning indictment of not just the ridiculous amount of money chasing bad ideas in the tech/LLM/hype sector that has eaten the American economy, ..."

                        https://www.physicsmatt.com/blog/2025/12/11/the-dumbest-thing-ive-seen-this-week
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                        • AkaSci 🛰️A AkaSci 🛰️

                          A blunt assessment of "AI datacenters in space” by Prof. Matthew Buckley in Dec 2025 -

                          "To be blunt, the entire stupid idea is a giant middle finger to multiple fundamentals of physics, and the fact that it is apparently being taken seriously by our tech lords, mainstream journalism, and political leaders is a damning indictment of not just the ridiculous amount of money chasing bad ideas in the tech/LLM/hype sector that has eaten the American economy, ..."

                          https://www.physicsmatt.com/blog/2025/12/11/the-dumbest-thing-ive-seen-this-week
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                          @AkaSci

                          Sooner or later, the unemployed, angry masses of #AiAntagonists will stop posting silly memes and start smashing #datacenters instead...

                          ...from that perspective putting data centers in orbit is perfect protection against angry #luddite mobs...

                          ...as a plus, cooling and power, which is the main thrust of Luddite critique (because #AI #LLM are totally useless) is taken care of in orbit...

                          So if you have lift capacity of $20/kg suddenly orbital data centre starts to look like a damn good investment.

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                          • AkaSci 🛰️A AkaSci 🛰️

                            New FCC filing by SpaceX for constellation of million data center satellites for AI apps.

                            # of sats: up to 1 million!
                            Orbit: 500 km and 2,000 km altitude and 30°inclinations. Multiple orbital shells 50 km apart.
                            Cooling: radiative
                            Schedule: unspecified
                            Sat size, weight, power, cost, ..: unspecified
                            Launches: millions of tons of mass per year

                            There goes the neighborhood.
                            Or is this just marketing fluff and orbital hoarding?

                            @sundogplanets
                            https://www.scribd.com/document/990116826/Orbital-Data-Center-LOA-Narrative
                            https://fccprod.servicenowservices.com/icfs?id=ibfs_application_summary&number=SAT-LOA-20260108-00016
                            1/n

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                            @AkaSci @sundogplanets

                            Will they be armed with lazers?

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                            • AkaSci 🛰️A AkaSci 🛰️

                              New FCC filing by SpaceX for constellation of million data center satellites for AI apps.

                              # of sats: up to 1 million!
                              Orbit: 500 km and 2,000 km altitude and 30°inclinations. Multiple orbital shells 50 km apart.
                              Cooling: radiative
                              Schedule: unspecified
                              Sat size, weight, power, cost, ..: unspecified
                              Launches: millions of tons of mass per year

                              There goes the neighborhood.
                              Or is this just marketing fluff and orbital hoarding?

                              @sundogplanets
                              https://www.scribd.com/document/990116826/Orbital-Data-Center-LOA-Narrative
                              https://fccprod.servicenowservices.com/icfs?id=ibfs_application_summary&number=SAT-LOA-20260108-00016
                              1/n

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                              @AkaSci @sundogplanets
                              These are mild
                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kardashev_scale#Criticisms_of_the_classification

                              Even Kardashev I is fantasy.

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                              • Wulfy—Speaker to the machinesN Wulfy—Speaker to the machines

                                @AkaSci

                                Sooner or later, the unemployed, angry masses of #AiAntagonists will stop posting silly memes and start smashing #datacenters instead...

                                ...from that perspective putting data centers in orbit is perfect protection against angry #luddite mobs...

                                ...as a plus, cooling and power, which is the main thrust of Luddite critique (because #AI #LLM are totally useless) is taken care of in orbit...

                                So if you have lift capacity of $20/kg suddenly orbital data centre starts to look like a damn good investment.

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                                @n_dimension @AkaSci
                                Frank Herbert's imagined "Butlerian Jihad" in Dune is looking likely.

                                Multiple levels of magical thinking!

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                                • Wulfy—Speaker to the machinesN Wulfy—Speaker to the machines

                                  @AkaSci

                                  Sooner or later, the unemployed, angry masses of #AiAntagonists will stop posting silly memes and start smashing #datacenters instead...

                                  ...from that perspective putting data centers in orbit is perfect protection against angry #luddite mobs...

                                  ...as a plus, cooling and power, which is the main thrust of Luddite critique (because #AI #LLM are totally useless) is taken care of in orbit...

                                  So if you have lift capacity of $20/kg suddenly orbital data centre starts to look like a damn good investment.

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                                  @n_dimension @AkaSci
                                  Cooling stuff in space is actually really hard. No evaporation cycles, convection or conduction. Only IR radiation on the "dark" side.

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                                    @n_dimension @AkaSci
                                    Cooling stuff in space is actually really hard. No evaporation cycles, convection or conduction. Only IR radiation on the "dark" side.

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                                    @raymaccarthy @n_dimension
                                    Not a problem. AI will solve it 😜

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                                    • AkaSci 🛰️A AkaSci 🛰️

                                      @raymaccarthy @n_dimension
                                      Not a problem. AI will solve it 😜

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                                      @AkaSci @n_dimension
                                      You need to adjust your clothing!

                                      That's fierce sarcasm that's exposed!

                                      AI might, but we have no idea how to make an AI. The LLM/Generative "AI" are statistical plagiarism machines. More useful mis-named Machine learning is simply curated databases and pattern matching, with rules created by experts.

                                      Scrape the Internet and you end up with regurgitated "Grokipedia", a NAZIfied version of Wikipedia, and a bunch on random nonsense.

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                                      • AkaSci 🛰️A AkaSci 🛰️

                                        New FCC filing by SpaceX for constellation of million data center satellites for AI apps.

                                        # of sats: up to 1 million!
                                        Orbit: 500 km and 2,000 km altitude and 30°inclinations. Multiple orbital shells 50 km apart.
                                        Cooling: radiative
                                        Schedule: unspecified
                                        Sat size, weight, power, cost, ..: unspecified
                                        Launches: millions of tons of mass per year

                                        There goes the neighborhood.
                                        Or is this just marketing fluff and orbital hoarding?

                                        @sundogplanets
                                        https://www.scribd.com/document/990116826/Orbital-Data-Center-LOA-Narrative
                                        https://fccprod.servicenowservices.com/icfs?id=ibfs_application_summary&number=SAT-LOA-20260108-00016
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                                        @AkaSci @sundogplanets

                                        What happens if the command to 'hurtle towards the earth in a fiery rain' is pushed to the network?

                                        Does Musk become a God in fact?

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                                        • AkaSci 🛰️A AkaSci 🛰️

                                          New FCC filing by SpaceX for constellation of million data center satellites for AI apps.

                                          # of sats: up to 1 million!
                                          Orbit: 500 km and 2,000 km altitude and 30°inclinations. Multiple orbital shells 50 km apart.
                                          Cooling: radiative
                                          Schedule: unspecified
                                          Sat size, weight, power, cost, ..: unspecified
                                          Launches: millions of tons of mass per year

                                          There goes the neighborhood.
                                          Or is this just marketing fluff and orbital hoarding?

                                          @sundogplanets
                                          https://www.scribd.com/document/990116826/Orbital-Data-Center-LOA-Narrative
                                          https://fccprod.servicenowservices.com/icfs?id=ibfs_application_summary&number=SAT-LOA-20260108-00016
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                                          @AkaSci @sundogplanets At this point in human history, having the Kessler Syndrome occur just might not be the worst thing

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