Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?

Hell I even see it in queer spaces where the women, femmes and enbies are the ones organising booking the venue and bringing home made cake after checking everyone's dietary requirements in advance. The first step towards dividing the tasks that bring the glory and the tasks that just have to be done up fairly is just noticing how they're divided now

@Aprazeth @cratermoon @afewbugs

That might work for a big project like NC. For me, as soon I found https://github.com/super-productivity/super-productivity I mentally tagged the problem as solved, and haven't been able to summon any energy to replicate the solution over at NC.

@afewbugs looks at the local repair cafe and who runs the front desk and who runs the tea counter... Yep checks out

@afewbugs i think to a certain extent it's just *easier* to make a task manager that only handles one-off tasks. a lot easier.

which is to say, there may (only may) be no misogeny here, just a complete lack of ability to actually *define* the problem before they try to solve it…

Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?

#AskFedi

@quixoticgeek I mean from my perspective they are

Oh and before anyone says "Oh but women are good at recurring maintenance tasks because they're naturally good at multitasking": 1) saying this will earn you a block. 2) No, we're not, we had to learn to be. That's why I need a task manager to tell me to keep on top of things like that. If you're willing to put in your share of the work to maintain a healthy, functional environment both at home and at work you can learn too

@emily_s @afewbugs

Also this recurring task/meeting/event functionality is *already* standard in Outlook/MS365 for some time.

Its been an open issue since *2017*, apparently 2 weeks ago there is some pull request to add the function still awaiting merging (I don't know how long this process takes before it ends up in the main software, but someone was testing it as recently as 2 days ago)

https://github.com/nextcloud/tasks/issues/34

@afewbugs i can't find anything on the web version right now but i heavily use recurring tasks to keep track of my weekly homework deadlines and use my nextcloud server and the tasks.org android app for that.

Guess which one usually gets handed to which gender. Men tend to get the one off high profile, highly regarded tasks (build the shed or the kitchen or the database), women tend to get the recurring tasks (clean the house, make sure the invoices are paid on time) that don't get the respect the one off tasks get but without which the big one off projects couldn't happen.

@afewbugs Great thread. I think sometimes about how many thousands of lives are saved every day by the cleaning staff at hospitals, but they never get recognition for it, since Preventing a Terrible Thing isn’t nearly as exciting as Fixing Terrible Thing (that maybe could have been prevented)

So we've strayed a very long way from Nextcloud's task manager, but the older I get the more I see "Who does the dishes after the revolution?" as one of the first questions that should be asked in any progressive space. I've seen at permaculture camps where the men wander off to form a drumming circle while the women set up the cooking rotas and compost station. I've seen it at the meetings where the men stand up and give inspiring speeches while the women organise drinks and take the minutes

@afewbugs There's one thing that I can somewhat, only a bit, accept as an excuse for talking about NextCloud in particular: It operates on CalDAV Standards and the Tasks part of that ... sucks badly. Like, terrible. I've not been happy with any of CalDAV synced Tasks because not only is support shoddy, but for exactly the reason you give.

However, NextCloud could – as any one of the stakeholders – try to push for something different or find ways to enable this use case better.

Case in point: What do people use for such tasks? Alarms are... hard to manage. Calendar entries are overwhelming. I try paper but I forget too often.

@ljrk @afewbugs putting maintenance tasks in their own calendar, that can thus be hidden could be one way.

regarding task-management in nextcloud in general: i only ever used the "deck"-app as a kanban board. as "tasks", "cards", and "events" are all the same type of caldav-object, they can be dispayed in all 3 apps, but with the deck-app you could e.g. have a columns for daily, weekly, and monthly tasks, and pull a task down to the bottom, so the longest undone task is always at the top.

Hell I even see it in queer spaces where the women, femmes and enbies are the ones organising booking the venue and bringing home made cake after checking everyone's dietary requirements in advance. The first step towards dividing the tasks that bring the glory and the tasks that just have to be done up fairly is just noticing how they're divided now

@afewbugs There's one thing that I can somewhat, only a bit, accept as an excuse for talking about NextCloud in particular: It operates on CalDAV Standards and the Tasks part of that ... sucks badly. Like, terrible. I've not been happy with any of CalDAV synced Tasks because not only is support shoddy, but for exactly the reason you give.

However, NextCloud could – as any one of the stakeholders – try to push for something different or find ways to enable this use case better.

Case in point: What do people use for such tasks? Alarms are... hard to manage. Calendar entries are overwhelming. I try paper but I forget too often.

Is there a way to set recurring tasks (daily, every Wednesday etc) in #NextCloud tasks?

#AskFedi

@afewbugs kiiiiiinda. Whatever tasks app on your phone that interfaces with Nextcloud can do recurring ones, I've got some set up for trash and plumbing-related shite using tasks.org on my phone, but bizarrely enough the actual "official" nextcloud thing can read and make sense of recurring tasks but lacks the ability to make them.

It lacks a lotta things honestly! Like, I've got a couple hundred duplicated contacts and a whole thread about the drama surrounding why, and I guess we're getting AI splodge instead

@afewbugs well now I read the rest of the thread and I thought I was alone in making "Nextcloud lacks a very fundamental feature in such a bizarre and counterintuitive way that I can do a whole thread about what this says about the project as a whole" threads but I guess welcome fellow traveller and my condolences on joining this unfortunate club

@afewbugs There's one thing that I can somewhat, only a bit, accept as an excuse for talking about NextCloud in particular: It operates on CalDAV Standards and the Tasks part of that ... sucks badly. Like, terrible. I've not been happy with any of CalDAV synced Tasks because not only is support shoddy, but for exactly the reason you give.

However, NextCloud could – as any one of the stakeholders – try to push for something different or find ways to enable this use case better.

Case in point: What do people use for such tasks? Alarms are... hard to manage. Calendar entries are overwhelming. I try paper but I forget too often.