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  3. This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating.

This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating.

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  • fan boy 🪭N fan boy 🪭

    @ben @dnkboston
    One person who is an independent reporter didn't know anything about this, when I left a comment saying I was going to need to unsubscribe.

    Deb Nam-KraneD This user is from outside of this forum
    Deb Nam-KraneD This user is from outside of this forum
    Deb Nam-Krane
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    #17

    @notyourfanboy That's incredible to me. It's pretty well-publicized, and isn't a journalist supposed to be up on the latest news? @ben

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    • FediThing :progress_pride:F FediThing :progress_pride:

      @ben

      For people who want alternatives, Ghost is a Substack-style platform that doesn't host Nazis. It's free and open source, so you can self-host if you prefer or use Ghost's own hosting service.

      Ghost also has Fediverse compatibility so people can follow your Ghost blog or newsletter directly from Mastodon etc. More info at https://fedi.tips/ghost-blogs-and-newsletters-on-the-fediverse/

      Mieke RothM This user is from outside of this forum
      Mieke RothM This user is from outside of this forum
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      #18

      @FediThing @ben ghost isn’t free as far as I see?

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      • Mieke RothM This user is from outside of this forum
        Mieke RothM This user is from outside of this forum
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        #19

        @FediThing ah, ok. That isn’t clear on the website. Makes sense. @ben

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        • Deb Nam-KraneD This user is from outside of this forum
          Deb Nam-KraneD This user is from outside of this forum
          Deb Nam-Krane
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          #20

          @Jorsh Ding ding ding ding ding @notyourfanboy @ben

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          • Mieke RothM This user is from outside of this forum
            Mieke RothM This user is from outside of this forum
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            #21

            @FediThing ❤ @ben

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            • K Sarah A

              @FediThing @ben I think I tried it on unohost. setting it up is a bit of a strugle, it seems worth it however.

              Amir KhanA This user is from outside of this forum
              Amir KhanA This user is from outside of this forum
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              #22

              @ke7zum @FediThing @ben

              @_elena might have some tips. She has some great guides and content for self hosting with #yonohost

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              • Deb Nam-KraneD Deb Nam-Krane

                @notyourfanboy That's incredible to me. It's pretty well-publicized, and isn't a journalist supposed to be up on the latest news? @ben

                fan boy 🪭N This user is from outside of this forum
                fan boy 🪭N This user is from outside of this forum
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                @ben @dnkboston
                Let me rephrase that.

                A journalist, who I'm sure doesn't make a living at it, who covers injustice in prisons in their State, who posts once or twice a month to their substack account hadn't heard about the platform hosting Nazis.

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                • Ben WerdmullerB Ben Werdmuller

                  This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating. Substack hosts, profits from, and promotes explicitly Nazi content, and if you are adding value to that network, you are helping them to do so. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-substack-makes-money-from-hosting-nazi-newsletters

                  Seth of the FediverseP This user is from outside of this forum
                  Seth of the FediverseP This user is from outside of this forum
                  Seth of the Fediverse
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                  #24

                  @ben I wonder what @MikeElgan thinks. He's still so bullish on Substack.

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                  • Ben WerdmullerB Ben Werdmuller

                    This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating. Substack hosts, profits from, and promotes explicitly Nazi content, and if you are adding value to that network, you are helping them to do so. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-substack-makes-money-from-hosting-nazi-newsletters

                    Seth of the FediverseP This user is from outside of this forum
                    Seth of the FediverseP This user is from outside of this forum
                    Seth of the Fediverse
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                    @ben This is the main reason why I don't pay for more subscriptions to Journalists that I want to support! They're on Substack. @MikeElgan is one of them. If he moved from Substack to Ghost, Beehiiv, I'd sub right away.

                    Hear that Mike! 😃

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                    • Kim ScheinbergK This user is from outside of this forum
                      Kim ScheinbergK This user is from outside of this forum
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                      @FediThing @miekeroth @ben
                      As I always note when this comes up, @JuliusGoat made the switch to ghost from substack and wrote about it here

                      https://www.the-reframe.com/1-year-after-substack/

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                      • fan boy 🪭N fan boy 🪭

                        @ben @dnkboston
                        Let me rephrase that.

                        A journalist, who I'm sure doesn't make a living at it, who covers injustice in prisons in their State, who posts once or twice a month to their substack account hadn't heard about the platform hosting Nazis.

                        Deb Nam-KraneD This user is from outside of this forum
                        Deb Nam-KraneD This user is from outside of this forum
                        Deb Nam-Krane
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                        #27

                        @notyourfanboy But still.

                        I always assume people should know what I do because I'm really not *that* well-informed. Nothing I know is a secret, I have no access to insider information on anything. So if I know about it, a journalist should, too. I feel comfortable saying that.

                        @ben

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                        • Ben WerdmullerB Ben Werdmuller

                          This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating. Substack hosts, profits from, and promotes explicitly Nazi content, and if you are adding value to that network, you are helping them to do so. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-substack-makes-money-from-hosting-nazi-newsletters

                          Mx Amber Alex (she/it)A This user is from outside of this forum
                          Mx Amber Alex (she/it)A This user is from outside of this forum
                          Mx Amber Alex (she/it)
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                          @ben Substack also, when Musk had just bought Twitter, posted that "anyone who has a problem with Musk's fight for free speech" need not apply for a job with them. They've made it quite clear where they stand.

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                          • Ben WerdmullerB Ben Werdmuller

                            This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating. Substack hosts, profits from, and promotes explicitly Nazi content, and if you are adding value to that network, you are helping them to do so. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-substack-makes-money-from-hosting-nazi-newsletters

                            Robert KingettW This user is from outside of this forum
                            Robert KingettW This user is from outside of this forum
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                            @ben Oh it’s very well documented. I’ve catalog most of them here, but I’ve got many more to add https://sightlessscribbles.com/posts/20250425/

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                            • FediThing :progress_pride:F FediThing :progress_pride:

                              @ben

                              For people who want alternatives, Ghost is a Substack-style platform that doesn't host Nazis. It's free and open source, so you can self-host if you prefer or use Ghost's own hosting service.

                              Ghost also has Fediverse compatibility so people can follow your Ghost blog or newsletter directly from Mastodon etc. More info at https://fedi.tips/ghost-blogs-and-newsletters-on-the-fediverse/

                              Matthew SheffieldM This user is from outside of this forum
                              Matthew SheffieldM This user is from outside of this forum
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                              @FediThing @ben WordPress is much easier, and there are thousands of people who can help you with it, plus thousands of themes.

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                              • FediThing :progress_pride:F FediThing :progress_pride:

                                @ben

                                For people who want alternatives, Ghost is a Substack-style platform that doesn't host Nazis. It's free and open source, so you can self-host if you prefer or use Ghost's own hosting service.

                                Ghost also has Fediverse compatibility so people can follow your Ghost blog or newsletter directly from Mastodon etc. More info at https://fedi.tips/ghost-blogs-and-newsletters-on-the-fediverse/

                                Elena BrescacinE This user is from outside of this forum
                                Elena BrescacinE This user is from outside of this forum
                                Elena Brescacin
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                                #31

                                @FediThing @tchambers @ben Ghost has still serious #accessibility issues. So, I have another alternative @buttondown which is not decentralized. But currently I'm even trying the email subscription of @writefreely - which can be self-hosted. Then, depends on how "sophisticated" needs users have.

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                                • Elena BrescacinE Elena Brescacin

                                  @FediThing @tchambers @ben Ghost has still serious #accessibility issues. So, I have another alternative @buttondown which is not decentralized. But currently I'm even trying the email subscription of @writefreely - which can be self-hosted. Then, depends on how "sophisticated" needs users have.

                                  KerfuffleK This user is from outside of this forum
                                  KerfuffleK This user is from outside of this forum
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                                  @elettrona @FediThing @tchambers @ben @buttondown @writefreely

                                  Those are both registered in the US though, while Ghost's non-profit is registered in Singapore.

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                                  • Ben WerdmullerB Ben Werdmuller

                                    This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating. Substack hosts, profits from, and promotes explicitly Nazi content, and if you are adding value to that network, you are helping them to do so. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-substack-makes-money-from-hosting-nazi-newsletters

                                    AlirezaA This user is from outside of this forum
                                    AlirezaA This user is from outside of this forum
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                                    @ben @rbreich

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                                    • Kim ScheinbergK Kim Scheinberg

                                      @FediThing @miekeroth @ben
                                      As I always note when this comes up, @JuliusGoat made the switch to ghost from substack and wrote about it here

                                      https://www.the-reframe.com/1-year-after-substack/

                                      Mieke RothM This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Mieke RothM This user is from outside of this forum
                                      Mieke Roth
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                                      #34

                                      @kims @FediThing @ben @JuliusGoat thanks! Going read that

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                                      • KerfuffleK Kerfuffle

                                        @elettrona @FediThing @tchambers @ben @buttondown @writefreely

                                        Those are both registered in the US though, while Ghost's non-profit is registered in Singapore.

                                        Elena BrescacinE This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Elena BrescacinE This user is from outside of this forum
                                        Elena Brescacin
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                                        @kerfuffle @FediThing @tchambers @ben @buttondown @writefreely yes I know - ButtonDown is in the US. And centralized. That's why I'm going to try alternatives. I can't use ghost (tried to self-host it with no accessibility result) and now I'm self-hosting writefreely, while I'll try email subscriptions

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                                        • Ben WerdmullerB Ben Werdmuller

                                          This isn’t new news as such, but people keep being surprised by it, so it’s worth repeating. Substack hosts, profits from, and promotes explicitly Nazi content, and if you are adding value to that network, you are helping them to do so. https://www.theguardian.com/media/2026/feb/07/revealed-how-substack-makes-money-from-hosting-nazi-newsletters

                                          Jeri DanskyJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Jeri DanskyJ This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Jeri Dansky
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                                          @ben Thanks for your comments and the link! I've just written to someone whose work I'd love to support — if it were on a different platform — and pointed them to the Guardian piece.

                                          I don't have much faith that it will help, but it can't hurt to ask him to please move.

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