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  • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

    Actions speak louder than words.

    I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

    Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

    A frontal attack to our #privacy.

    Stupid, no?

    @EUCommission

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    John Faithfull ๐ŸŒ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ๐ŸงกโœŠ๐ŸปโœŠ๐ŸฟF This user is from outside of this forum
    John Faithfull ๐ŸŒ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ๐ŸงกโœŠ๐ŸปโœŠ๐Ÿฟ
    wrote last edited by
    #51

    @jdelacueva @EUCommission the right to exist is only available to Google and Apple customers. ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿคฎ๐Ÿคฌ

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    • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

      Actions speak louder than words.

      I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

      Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

      A frontal attack to our #privacy.

      Stupid, no?

      @EUCommission

      Alex AfouxenidisA This user is from outside of this forum
      Alex AfouxenidisA This user is from outside of this forum
      Alex Afouxenidis
      wrote last edited by
      #52

      @jdelacueva Absolutely right. @EUCommission

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      • Matv1M Matv1

        @jdelacueva @EUCommission
        What?? They said they would fix that a while back, right?

        Well that's my identity scrapped for not wanting to use google ๐Ÿ˜„

        One can tell, the @EUCommission is really serious about #digitalsovereignty

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        https://purl.org/rzr#
        wrote last edited by
        #53

        https://mastodon.social/@jdelacueva/116103089304791787#

        Is there any public group taking care of #Eu #DigitalSovereignty (for what ever it means ?)

        Is it part of #CRA requirements ?

        I have similar concerns regarding #MsMonopoly on #SecureBoot for #x86 #Computers (#PCs and #Servers).

        Are anti concurrency practices also a model threat to you ?

        Lot of questions, few answers so far, only implementations with mixed feelings..

        Inputs welcome anyway

        @matv1 @jdelacueva @EUCommission

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        • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

          Actions speak louder than words.

          I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

          Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

          A frontal attack to our #privacy.

          Stupid, no?

          @EUCommission

          JayJ This user is from outside of this forum
          JayJ This user is from outside of this forum
          Jay
          wrote last edited by
          #54

          @jdelacueva @EUCommission
          Australian here. Don't even know at what layer my New South Wales State Government app isn't playing nice with GrapheneOS... but it doesn't bloody work mate.
          I share your anger.

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          • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

            Actions speak louder than words.

            I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

            Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

            A frontal attack to our #privacy.

            Stupid, no?

            @EUCommission

            Herman  ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡พ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‹H This user is from outside of this forum
            Herman  ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡พ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‹H This user is from outside of this forum
            Herman ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡พ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‹
            wrote last edited by
            #55

            @jdelacueva @EUCommission ๐Ÿคช๐Ÿ”จ

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            • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

              Actions speak louder than words.

              I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

              Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

              A frontal attack to our #privacy.

              Stupid, no?

              @EUCommission

              katzenbergerK This user is from outside of this forum
              katzenbergerK This user is from outside of this forum
              katzenberger
              wrote last edited by
              #56

              @jdelacueva

              Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but I'm currently able to add a passkey as a second factor, under "Manage my Trusted Platforms, Security Keys and Passkeys".

              That should allow you to use e.g. KeePassDX on Android.

              @EUCommission

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              • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                Actions speak louder than words.

                I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                Stupid, no?

                @EUCommission

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                wrote last edited by
                #57

                @jdelacueva @EUCommission EU should fix thisโ€ฆ & their date format to 2026-02-25 like the ISO 8601 standard.

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                • GreatLakeTroutG GreatLakeTrout

                  @IvanSanchez @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                  Wait I thought the EU was trying to separate itself from US tech, that is what all their politicians are sayingโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆ.oh wait I see My error now.

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                  Wolf90000
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                  #58

                  @greatlaketrout The EU is in bed with big tech despite them claiming otherwise (You probably know but this is for the people that don't)

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                  • ฤžร–Kรœ๐Ÿ‘ป๐Ÿ‘ปโ„ขG ฤžร–Kรœ๐Ÿ‘ป๐Ÿ‘ปโ„ข

                    @phil @jdelacueva @EUCommission yes. Just install from fdroid

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                    #59

                    @GOKUSHRM @phil @jdelacueva @EUCommission
                    I do have Teams installed on a Lineage based thing. From Aurora. And recently it says it will not function without Play integration. It lets me log in, but it will not show anything really.

                    From what I understand, Play issues certain certificates that non-Play markets dont.

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                    • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                      Actions speak louder than words.

                      I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                      Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                      A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                      Stupid, no?

                      @EUCommission

                      schrotthaufenS This user is from outside of this forum
                      schrotthaufenS This user is from outside of this forum
                      schrotthaufen
                      wrote last edited by
                      #60

                      @EUCommission This is not how to do digital sovereignity. At all. Every mandated and/or taxpayer funded software must run on de-googled Android (LineageOS, GrapheneOS) or postmarketOS if itโ€™s a mobile app, and Linux if itโ€™s a desktop app. (Thatโ€™s in addition to โ€œregularโ€ Android, iOS, Windows, and macOS.)

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                      • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                        Actions speak louder than words.

                        I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                        Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                        A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                        Stupid, no?

                        @EUCommission

                        Miah JohnsonM This user is from outside of this forum
                        Miah JohnsonM This user is from outside of this forum
                        Miah Johnson
                        wrote last edited by
                        #61

                        @jdelacueva @EUCommission getting to the point where you need a dedicated Google device for things like this and then your daily use mobile device. Keep the spyware device in a drawer at home..

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                        • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                          Actions speak louder than words.

                          I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                          Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                          A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                          Stupid, no?

                          @EUCommission

                          Dr0idA This user is from outside of this forum
                          Dr0idA This user is from outside of this forum
                          Dr0id
                          wrote last edited by
                          #62

                          @jdelacueva @EUCommission In my opinion the problem here is that the fact that it requires you Play Integrity is not a mistake, it is something sought with a clear objective. A company that has an economic interest can be imposed with sanctions if you donโ€™t do what you want or even veto it. If you force everyone to need to spend Play Integrity you are forcing them to rely on a phone manufacturer that has to conform to your regulations in order to sell. โฌ

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                          • Dr0idA Dr0id

                            @jdelacueva @EUCommission In my opinion the problem here is that the fact that it requires you Play Integrity is not a mistake, it is something sought with a clear objective. A company that has an economic interest can be imposed with sanctions if you donโ€™t do what you want or even veto it. If you force everyone to need to spend Play Integrity you are forcing them to rely on a phone manufacturer that has to conform to your regulations in order to sell. โฌ

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                            Dr0id
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                            #63

                            @jdelacueva @EUCommission Considering the trend to impose age verification to access social media with the "Fake News" scum and the control of "hate speech" and the possible age verification imposition to use VPN, it makes sense that you are forced to pass the play integrity in more and more official applications in EU agencies and the countries that make it up. โฌ

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                            • Dr0idA Dr0id

                              @jdelacueva @EUCommission Considering the trend to impose age verification to access social media with the "Fake News" scum and the control of "hate speech" and the possible age verification imposition to use VPN, it makes sense that you are forced to pass the play integrity in more and more official applications in EU agencies and the countries that make it up. โฌ

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                              Dr0id
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                              #64

                              @jdelacueva @EUCommission All this coupled with the efforts they are making to impose the Chat Control plus the dijital ID (which will surely be a Wallet that will have to pass Play Integrity) at the European level what I see is a totalitarian drift towards the end of Internet privacy throughout the EU

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                              • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                Actions speak louder than words.

                                I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                Stupid, no?

                                @EUCommission

                                URP74U This user is from outside of this forum
                                URP74U This user is from outside of this forum
                                URP74
                                wrote last edited by
                                #65

                                @jdelacueva

                                Works fine on /e/OS however...

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                                • Sco :progress: :flag_mm:S Sco :progress: :flag_mm:

                                  @GOKUSHRM @phil @jdelacueva @EUCommission
                                  I do have Teams installed on a Lineage based thing. From Aurora. And recently it says it will not function without Play integration. It lets me log in, but it will not show anything really.

                                  From what I understand, Play issues certain certificates that non-Play markets dont.

                                  ฤžร–Kรœ๐Ÿ‘ป๐Ÿ‘ปโ„ขG This user is from outside of this forum
                                  ฤžร–Kรœ๐Ÿ‘ป๐Ÿ‘ปโ„ขG This user is from outside of this forum
                                  ฤžร–Kรœ๐Ÿ‘ป๐Ÿ‘ปโ„ข
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #66

                                  @Scofisticated @phil @jdelacueva @EUCommission element, element x, jitsi meet are grt alternatives of MS team. All are open source apps. All available on F-Droid as well as on aurora

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                                  • ฤžร–Kรœ๐Ÿ‘ป๐Ÿ‘ปโ„ขG ฤžร–Kรœ๐Ÿ‘ป๐Ÿ‘ปโ„ข

                                    @Scofisticated @phil @jdelacueva @EUCommission element, element x, jitsi meet are grt alternatives of MS team. All are open source apps. All available on F-Droid as well as on aurora

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                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #67

                                    @GOKUSHRM The Teams is for work. Otherwise, I wouldnt bother.

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                                    • Sco :progress: :flag_mm:S Sco :progress: :flag_mm:

                                      @GOKUSHRM The Teams is for work. Otherwise, I wouldnt bother.

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                                      ฤžร–Kรœ๐Ÿ‘ป๐Ÿ‘ปโ„ข
                                      wrote last edited by
                                      #68

                                      @Scofisticated with microG u can use teams without issue.. But if u using lineageos then u should use Foss apps like jitsi meets for personal or for work.. Try jitsi meet

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                                      • ฤžร–Kรœ๐Ÿ‘ป๐Ÿ‘ปโ„ขG This user is from outside of this forum
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                                        ฤžร–Kรœ๐Ÿ‘ป๐Ÿ‘ปโ„ข
                                        wrote last edited by
                                        #69

                                        @guigsy @Scofisticated OOPS, ๐Ÿ˜”, then no option.. Last option.. Install Google play service app (oldest version) & turn off all internet connection option in app setting. Use ur team app... MS Google apple all joined hands together. All doing shit

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                                        • https://purl.org/rzr#R https://purl.org/rzr#

                                          https://mastodon.social/@jdelacueva/116103089304791787#

                                          Is there any public group taking care of #Eu #DigitalSovereignty (for what ever it means ?)

                                          Is it part of #CRA requirements ?

                                          I have similar concerns regarding #MsMonopoly on #SecureBoot for #x86 #Computers (#PCs and #Servers).

                                          Are anti concurrency practices also a model threat to you ?

                                          Lot of questions, few answers so far, only implementations with mixed feelings..

                                          Inputs welcome anyway

                                          @matv1 @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                                          LambertL This user is from outside of this forum
                                          LambertL This user is from outside of this forum
                                          Lambert
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                                          #70

                                          @rzr @matv1 @jdelacueva @EUCommission the EU Login Mobile App should not require any Google services and it should be Open Source - the EU should start acting according to its own values and mission statement instead of preaching #digitalsovereignty but practising the contrary.

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