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  • Tanguy FardetT Tanguy Fardet

    @jdelacueva yeah... it's not great. I had to buy a YubiKey to get 2FA without Google when accessing @EUCommission portals

    Henrik PauliP This user is from outside of this forum
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    Henrik Pauli
    wrote last edited by
    #41

    @tfardet @jdelacueva @EUCommission wow I'm absolutely baffled why a bog standard TOTP isn't allowed while some silly four digit PIN is... https://trusted-digital-identity.europa.eu/creating-managing-and-using-your-eu-login-account/what-second-factor-can-i-configure-my-account_en

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    • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

      Actions speak louder than words.

      I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

      Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

      A frontal attack to our #privacy.

      Stupid, no?

      @EUCommission

      Backhand Topspin ๐ŸŸจJ This user is from outside of this forum
      Backhand Topspin ๐ŸŸจJ This user is from outside of this forum
      Backhand Topspin ๐ŸŸจ
      wrote last edited by
      #42

      @jdelacueva Shame on you @EUCommission Europe should be internet-sovereign and stop depending exclusively on foreign US big tech shady corporations.

      European citizens that pay taxes in Europe and try to use Europe based alternatives to Apple or Android shouldn't be treated like this. It is a disgrace. Things like this have to change. We need European software running on an European OS, for Europe's sake!

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      • GreatLakeTroutG GreatLakeTrout

        @IvanSanchez @jdelacueva @EUCommission

        Wait I thought the EU was trying to separate itself from US tech, that is what all their politicians are sayingโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆ.oh wait I see My error now.

        ๐Ÿ Perivi Yohanesburgo ๐Ÿ :fedora:F This user is from outside of this forum
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        wrote last edited by
        #43

        @greatlaketrout @IvanSanchez @jdelacueva @EUCommission The European Digital Identity Wallet app for Android will require Play Integrity as well.

        https://github.com/eu-digital-identity-wallet/eudi-app-android-wallet-ui/issues/287

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        • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

          Actions speak louder than words.

          I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

          Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

          A frontal attack to our #privacy.

          Stupid, no?

          @EUCommission

          NazoN This user is from outside of this forum
          NazoN This user is from outside of this forum
          Nazo
          wrote last edited by
          #44

          @jdelacueva @EUCommission Does this actually require explicitly Google's own authenticator?

          There are a number of two-factor authenticators that should be completely compatible. (My preferred option being Aegis, but there are others.)

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          • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

            Actions speak louder than words.

            I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

            Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

            A frontal attack to our #privacy.

            Stupid, no?

            @EUCommission

            Rue MohrR This user is from outside of this forum
            Rue MohrR This user is from outside of this forum
            Rue Mohr
            wrote last edited by
            #45

            @jdelacueva @EUCommission

            software hacking gonna be a major thing!!! and I dont think its all going to be client side!

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            • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

              Actions speak louder than words.

              I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

              Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

              A frontal attack to our #privacy.

              Stupid, no?

              @EUCommission

              SebasFCS This user is from outside of this forum
              SebasFCS This user is from outside of this forum
              SebasFC
              wrote last edited by
              #46

              @jdelacueva @EUCommission hi @pallenberg kรถnntest du dir das Mal angucken?

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              • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                Actions speak louder than words.

                I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                Stupid, no?

                @EUCommission

                C This user is from outside of this forum
                C This user is from outside of this forum
                Steffen Eichel
                wrote last edited by
                #47

                @jdelacueva @EUCommission At least one EU Agency uses Microsoft services (even for user management and login/security issues) and you have to use either SMS or MS for 2FA, no open standards.

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                • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                  Actions speak louder than words.

                  I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                  Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                  A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                  Stupid, no?

                  @EUCommission

                  pinoP This user is from outside of this forum
                  pinoP This user is from outside of this forum
                  pino
                  wrote last edited by
                  #48

                  @jdelacueva @EUCommission What else did you expect from them?

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                  • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                    Actions speak louder than words.

                    I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                    Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                    A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                    Stupid, no?

                    @EUCommission

                    Fish Id WardrobeF This user is from outside of this forum
                    Fish Id WardrobeF This user is from outside of this forum
                    Fish Id Wardrobe
                    wrote last edited by
                    #49

                    @jdelacueva @EUCommission if the 2FA requires one particular app to use, that's suspicious, too. there are plenty of apps that will work with 2FA.

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                    • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                      Actions speak louder than words.

                      I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                      Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                      A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                      Stupid, no?

                      @EUCommission

                      Matv1M This user is from outside of this forum
                      Matv1M This user is from outside of this forum
                      Matv1
                      wrote last edited by
                      #50

                      @jdelacueva @EUCommission
                      What?? They said they would fix that a while back, right?

                      Well that's my identity scrapped for not wanting to use google ๐Ÿ˜„

                      One can tell, the @EUCommission is really serious about #digitalsovereignty

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                      • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                        Actions speak louder than words.

                        I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                        Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                        A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                        Stupid, no?

                        @EUCommission

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                        #51

                        @jdelacueva @EUCommission the right to exist is only available to Google and Apple customers. ๐Ÿ˜ญ๐Ÿคฎ๐Ÿคฌ

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                        • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                          Actions speak louder than words.

                          I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                          Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                          A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                          Stupid, no?

                          @EUCommission

                          Alex AfouxenidisA This user is from outside of this forum
                          Alex AfouxenidisA This user is from outside of this forum
                          Alex Afouxenidis
                          wrote last edited by
                          #52

                          @jdelacueva Absolutely right. @EUCommission

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                          • Matv1M Matv1

                            @jdelacueva @EUCommission
                            What?? They said they would fix that a while back, right?

                            Well that's my identity scrapped for not wanting to use google ๐Ÿ˜„

                            One can tell, the @EUCommission is really serious about #digitalsovereignty

                            https://purl.org/rzr#R This user is from outside of this forum
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                            https://purl.org/rzr#
                            wrote last edited by
                            #53

                            https://mastodon.social/@jdelacueva/116103089304791787#

                            Is there any public group taking care of #Eu #DigitalSovereignty (for what ever it means ?)

                            Is it part of #CRA requirements ?

                            I have similar concerns regarding #MsMonopoly on #SecureBoot for #x86 #Computers (#PCs and #Servers).

                            Are anti concurrency practices also a model threat to you ?

                            Lot of questions, few answers so far, only implementations with mixed feelings..

                            Inputs welcome anyway

                            @matv1 @jdelacueva @EUCommission

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                            • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                              Actions speak louder than words.

                              I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                              Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                              A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                              Stupid, no?

                              @EUCommission

                              JayJ This user is from outside of this forum
                              JayJ This user is from outside of this forum
                              Jay
                              wrote last edited by
                              #54

                              @jdelacueva @EUCommission
                              Australian here. Don't even know at what layer my New South Wales State Government app isn't playing nice with GrapheneOS... but it doesn't bloody work mate.
                              I share your anger.

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                              • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                Actions speak louder than words.

                                I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                Stupid, no?

                                @EUCommission

                                Herman  ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡พ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‹H This user is from outside of this forum
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                                Herman ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡บ๐Ÿ‡ฆ๐Ÿ‡พ๐Ÿ‡ช๐Ÿ‹
                                wrote last edited by
                                #55

                                @jdelacueva @EUCommission ๐Ÿคช๐Ÿ”จ

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                                • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                  Actions speak louder than words.

                                  I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                  Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                  A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                  Stupid, no?

                                  @EUCommission

                                  katzenbergerK This user is from outside of this forum
                                  katzenbergerK This user is from outside of this forum
                                  katzenberger
                                  wrote last edited by
                                  #56

                                  @jdelacueva

                                  Maybe I'm misunderstanding you, but I'm currently able to add a passkey as a second factor, under "Manage my Trusted Platforms, Security Keys and Passkeys".

                                  That should allow you to use e.g. KeePassDX on Android.

                                  @EUCommission

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                                  • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                    Actions speak louder than words.

                                    I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                    Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                    A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                    Stupid, no?

                                    @EUCommission

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                                    wrote last edited by
                                    #57

                                    @jdelacueva @EUCommission EU should fix thisโ€ฆ & their date format to 2026-02-25 like the ISO 8601 standard.

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                                    • GreatLakeTroutG GreatLakeTrout

                                      @IvanSanchez @jdelacueva @EUCommission

                                      Wait I thought the EU was trying to separate itself from US tech, that is what all their politicians are sayingโ€ฆโ€ฆโ€ฆ.oh wait I see My error now.

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                                      Wolf90000
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                                      @greatlaketrout The EU is in bed with big tech despite them claiming otherwise (You probably know but this is for the people that don't)

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                                      • ฤžร–Kรœ๐Ÿ‘ป๐Ÿ‘ปโ„ขG ฤžร–Kรœ๐Ÿ‘ป๐Ÿ‘ปโ„ข

                                        @phil @jdelacueva @EUCommission yes. Just install from fdroid

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                                        #59

                                        @GOKUSHRM @phil @jdelacueva @EUCommission
                                        I do have Teams installed on a Lineage based thing. From Aurora. And recently it says it will not function without Play integration. It lets me log in, but it will not show anything really.

                                        From what I understand, Play issues certain certificates that non-Play markets dont.

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                                        • Javier de la CuevaJ Javier de la Cueva

                                          Actions speak louder than words.

                                          I am unable to install EU Login app in my phone because I use LineageOS and not the Google Spy Android.

                                          Thus, I cannot use the double factor authentication, mandatory from the 25-02-2026 on unless I tell Google.

                                          A frontal attack to our #privacy.

                                          Stupid, no?

                                          @EUCommission

                                          schrotthaufenS This user is from outside of this forum
                                          schrotthaufenS This user is from outside of this forum
                                          schrotthaufen
                                          wrote last edited by
                                          #60

                                          @EUCommission This is not how to do digital sovereignity. At all. Every mandated and/or taxpayer funded software must run on de-googled Android (LineageOS, GrapheneOS) or postmarketOS if itโ€™s a mobile app, and Linux if itโ€™s a desktop app. (Thatโ€™s in addition to โ€œregularโ€ Android, iOS, Windows, and macOS.)

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